Faxing that many lines of code would take a long while I suppose.
Coliseum Sports - EPL Overlords
Tried to log in at work to watch the #FULARS (giggity) game, got this message:
Fuck.
Tried to log in at work to watch the #FULARS (giggity) game, got this message:
Fuck.
Do you work overseas?
Tried to log in at work to watch the #FULARS (giggity) game, got this message:
Fuck.
Do you work overseas?
I'm in Japan apparently.
Problem solved, I'm back in NZ now.
The business you work for may have their internet edge/breakout overseas. Most global places do.
With the on-demand option, are you able to access this while a game is partway through? I.e. if Liverpool are playing live at 5.30am on Sunday, can I log on at 6.30 and watch from the beginning?
Not sure if it was you who asked them on twitter, but they responded to someone asking the same thing. They said it's something theyve bought up, along with a 2nd half button.
yays.
Yes, you can. The only issues is that when you click Play on the match, it takes you to the current point in time of the match, but you can just rewind the game back to the start on the slider thing.
Yep, but they're looking into having an option to start from the beginning apparently. It is a little annoying having to avert your eyes while rewinding, but not the end of the world. Would be a nice feature though - same with the 2nd half button for on demand games.
Caved in and signed up. Streaming at a constant 3000k this week. Anyone know if they have confirmed Apple TV mirroring on iPad?
With the on-demand option, are you able to access this while a game is partway through? I.e. if Liverpool are playing live at 5.30am on Sunday, can I log on at 6.30 and watch from the beginning?
Not sure if it was you who asked them on twitter, but they responded to someone asking the same thing. They said it's something theyve bought up, along with a 2nd half button.
yays.
Yes, you can. The only issues is that when you click Play on the match, it takes you to the current point in time of the match, but you can just rewind the game back to the start on the slider thing.
interview from the 17th
C.E.O of Coliseum Sports Media Tim Martin spent an hour in studio with Glen Larmer answering your questions about the new EPL service.
http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Tim-Martin-in-studio/tabid/506/articleID/37322/Default.aspx
With the on-demand option, are you able to access this while a game is partway through? I.e. if Liverpool are playing live at 5.30am on Sunday, can I log on at 6.30 and watch from the beginning?
Not sure if it was you who asked them on twitter, but they responded to someone asking the same thing. They said it's something theyve bought up, along with a 2nd half button.
yays.
Yes, you can. The only issues is that when you click Play on the match, it takes you to the current point in time of the match, but you can just rewind the game back to the start on the slider thing.
I think the bigger issue is (and I think this is only for the Android app, rather than the browser based laptop version) is that when you got to watch a delayed game the winning teams name is in bold. That's pretty average to say the least...
We got a free 24 hour trial so gave it a go this weekend. Have to say, was very good. Impressed.
Lots of angst on twitter/facebook and lots of praise too.
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The bad news, after last week's debacle & I couldn't watch Everton at all, and despite an email from PremierLeaguePass apologising for first week guffs, I decided (against my better judgement) to but the package.
What do I get, something that every 3-4 mins is unwatchable & when it is at 'full quality' it's bloody shit. If you think this is unfair, here's a beautifully written articles by someone who knows all the tech stuff & basically, Coliseum the people who own the rights to Premier League in NZ, couldn't give a shit about football fans. They've built the system on an inferior platform & the user has to live on a pray as to wether they get a decent coverage of the game.
Pretty sure I'm going to be emailing in the morning cancelling my subscription & demanding my money back, this is a bloody joke."
Quoting off a fb friend I have.
classic, for all you guys bitching about sky's coverage, they did at least get most games veryweek, perhaps not live but at least delayed - and frankly getting up on a sunday and cruising through the morning with 5 hours or more of footy on the telly was bliss. I'm happy with the arse tv at 1pm, a bit annoyed that I now miss the rest I used to watch. But hey as I want to watch the AB's/warriors and most other NZ sport sky is still the best option.
First time firing up the PLP this year, thought the quality was very good, no stoppages either, as someone who quite enjoys getting up at about 9am to watch the game rather than 2am, I'm very pleased with the service.
That's your best gif yet!
With the on-demand option, are you able to access this while a game is partway through? I.e. if Liverpool are playing live at 5.30am on Sunday, can I log on at 6.30 and watch from the beginning?
Not sure if it was you who asked them on twitter, but they responded to someone asking the same thing. They said it's something theyve bought up, along with a 2nd half button.
yays.
Yes, you can. The only issues is that when you click Play on the match, it takes you to the current point in time of the match, but you can just rewind the game back to the start on the slider thing.
I think the bigger issue is (and I think this is only for the Android app, rather than the browser based laptop version) is that when you got to watch a delayed game the winning teams name is in bold. That's pretty average to say the least...
Yep, pretty shocking really. I told them on Twitter about this yesterday, and they alerted the developers and told them to fix it. Can't believe that didn't get picked up in Neulion's testing.
Well to be fair, there were no games played when they finished the app.
Out of interest what are you guys spending per month on internet?
With tcom, have a package with extras, but taking those out, I'm paying $75 for a landline with local calling and 30gb of internet. It's only $10 more to go to 80gb though, as I understand it, so I'm poised to make the jump should I run into issues with watching too much PLP. Not desirable though as that essentially doubles the cost of PLP for me.
I'm currently on a discount package with Telstra-Clear (now part of Vodafone) of landline and 30 GB for $65/ month but will change back to Vodafone's "Naked Broadband" which currently offers 50 GB = $55, 200 GB = $65 400 GB = $75 per month if you have a mobile plan OR a Vodafone home phone wireless with them. I like the home phone wireless which is only $25/ month and functions like a landline - except it's wireless. "Naked" broadband is available in most larger urban areas.
You can also get Sky Sport half-price with the "Naked" package (even if you already have Sky - you just cancel Sky Sport with Sky and then get it added through Vodafone). This promotion has been going for years and isn't a short-term thing.
Well I've read lots of moaning and groaning about PLP but I have to say I've watched 3 games in full and I've found quality to be great admittedly I'm on Vodafone ex Telstra clear cable at warp speed and quality at 3000 is great ..... I m also a subscriber to MLB.tv and watch my baseball thru my Apple TV and love this service. .... Disappointing is the delay in releasing iPad/phone app and sooner we a get Apple TV app the better.
Yeah, the delay in the iPhone launch is not entirely PLP'sfault.
i signed up on friday and must admit the quality on the live games seemed a lot better this weekend, the option to choose what 2am game i wanted to watch was great as well. Hopefully these guys keep getting better
This is an interesting article from Stuff...http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/assignments/share-your-news-and-views/9045645/Why-I-m-not-signing-up-to-PremierLeaguePass (dated 19 Aug)
There is one paragraph in there which caught my eye (it's in bold below), regarding previous use of this technology...
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After putting up with a Sky monopoly on sport for years, with the attendant arrogance on Sky's part that came along with it in respect of content, customer service and pricing, the introduction of a new competitor using a new distribution model gave us hope that we could finally begin to free ourselves from monopolistic content providers.
Coliseum and PremierLeaguePass, who were sold the rights second-hand by MP & Silva, offered a product that's unique in the commercial sector, and most importantly, knocked Sky off their perch.
Despite the image of hope and freedom from the tyranny of traditional broadcast models, Coliseum haven't found a unique selling point. Rather, they're offering a worse product and working on a principle last used when Kevin Costner wanted to set up a baseball field for ghosts in his back garden: own the rights and they will come. Unfortunately, with the internet, that doesn't quite work. There's already hundreds of baseball fields out there offering ghosts field time, they're much cheaper - if not quite legal - and the market in them has been notoriously difficult for even mature rights holders around the world to deal with.
After seeing what's being offered and speaking to both Coliseum and the support team at PremierLeaguePass, I won't be signing up.
It's not the money, I'm prepared to pay for it. But being a football fan in a country under-serviced by broadcasters means that, as one the hardcore fans that PLP is targeting, I already have plenty of ways to get more games and shows than Coliseum could ever offer, most of which will never be shown here. I would gladly pay out for a high quality service like an additional Sky channel specialising in football, or for a high quality streaming service like PremierLeaguePass. But for the prices that are being asked and the quality being promised, PLP and Coliseum are failing already.
First impressions matter: the quality of PLP is horrendous. The preview video is nothing short of terrible, and apparently doesn't even represent the product you'll be getting: no streaming controls, no testing of the live system or single view system. PLP claim that delivering a stream of around 3,000kbps into 720 horizontal lines is broadcast quality, but this simply isn't true, and PLP saying it repeatedly won't make it true. YouTube offers better quality streaming in higher resolutions than the service PLP are going to deliver.
Sky Premier League HD broadcasts are transmitted at around 18,000kpbs and fill up all the lines on a full HD TV, together with high quality audio. That difference is huge when it comes to a detailed, colourful and fast-panning sports scene: it's the difference between knowing Wayne Rooney is in possession and wondering if there's an escaped gorilla on the pitch. The other options are 1,600kbps and 800kbps: for this level of service you may as well be watching an illegal stream.
There's no downloads with copyright protection like the BBC's iPlayer, either - you stream what you can get at that moment. If you've ever experienced slow internet in the evening when all your neighbours are online, be prepared to be disappointed with your PLP viewing experience and have no other option but to sit there watching a circle rotate for the best part of two hours while your video buffers.
But have no doubt that you'll be paying the same price to PLP as someone who has a UFB connection streaming uninterrupted 3,000kbps. That's a big problem, and where Sky's broadcast model is at least equitable: with Sky everyone gets the same delivery and the same quality options. If you don't want HD, or don't have a high definition TV, you don't have to have pay the extra for it. With PLP's offering, you're at the mercy of a number of different agents. The delivery system is not reliable, fair or equitable - and yet everyone has to pay the same price. The only people it's fair to are PLP and Coliseum, who get bigger margins from the people who use less system resources.
And unlike Sky, where you can record the game, watch it back, pause it, watch it again, and review those contentious moments until you're bored of discussions about whether or not Luis Suarez took a dive (again), with PremierLeaguePass you're going to be restricted. You won't be able to watch some games more than once, with only 250 of the 380 games available for repeat viewing. The games between key rivals, which usually kick off at 12pm or get played on Monday nights, will likely be restricted in this way. If more than one person in your house watches football, then be prepared to have to sync up your viewing times or buy two PLP accounts - because for a third of the games it's going to be one account, one device, one time viewing.
The content delivery network that Coliseum has chosen to use is not a system made to be the primary mode of viewing. It's a system used in the US for when TV doesn't show the games, for when you can't attend and there's a local TV blackout, or for a few days after the game. Yet Coliseum have chosen to take what is essentially a first-time use of the system as a primary broadcast method and force consumers to use it - with high costs, no guarantees over quality and restricted broadcasts. In other words, it's an expensive experiment.
The English Premier League is the most valuable and most popular league in the world: this league is not for experimenting with, no matter how small the perceived market (and yes, my vested interest in the league is very vested indeed). This is a major change, but Coliseum want to take us backwards in terms of quality and delivery scope to something akin to terrestrial broadcast technologies of the 1970s. Worse still, the deficiencies are clear, and Coliseum's media strategy is telling: instead of being able to challenge Sky on quality products, when Sky announced it would carry delayed coverage of a few games, Coliseum's response was to attack Sky and the timing of the announcement.
It's almost as if Kevin Costner decided to build his field of dreams right next to Fenway Park.
Tim Martin and Coliseum may love sport, but I'm more inclined to believe that they're in love with idea of sport and the potential for revenue. If they were fans, they'd love football in the way that fans love it - they'd have acted accordingly and they'd have started the enterprise with a listening project.
The way in which the rights were sold to MP & Silva and then on-sold to the highest bidder at a profit demonstrates that all the way up to the Premier League fans are given the lowest priority, except when it comes to the contents of their wallets. In that spirit, all Coliseum have done up to now has been to replicate Sky's awful reputation for interaction with fans, only with a worse quality product. Coliseum could have bucked a depressing trend, but they've chosen to talk a lot and provide less.
I've paid Sky for years to have them ignore me. I'm not going to start paying someone else to do the same
Hardly a first time use. That's a bit of a misleading paragraph. There are blackout laws in the US, if a game isn't sold out, they black out the game in that region. TV also shows select games on espn. For any other game, it is the primary source of viewing.
I don't really know what they're getting at. If some games are on tv in some areas, and if some games are blacked out online, makes no difference to the fact that it is used to view games (in the same way we view games here).
Take NBA league pass here. Yes, TV shows some games via espn. But you can also watch games via league pass. League pass would be the same, whether or not espn showed games.
Very odd paragraph.
The rest seems to mirror the concerns that a couple of others have about it. Though I will say, he seems to have written that whole piece based on viewing the preview videos. Which is quite poor if true.
Downloads with copyright protection is a cool idea. Would get around the peak time viewing problem around 6-7pm.
Interesting to see how Tim Martin Tweets...
Sheesh. Yeah you'd hope that is a fake account.
Seems to be his account. Don't see the tweet though.
Sheesh. Yeah you'd hope that is a fake account.
I wondered that but that account has had Twitter conversations with Paul Spain (NZ Tech Podcast), Martin Devlin and is followed by a few journo's. Doesnt mean we're all not being fooled though!
You can view it here - https://twitter.com/timcoliseum
Had to unfollow them on twitter. kept getting spoilers (live tweeting) nauseating...
I've watched probably 6-7 games now all up, mostly live, some delayed with me randomly pausing throughout, and I haven't had one second of buffering. I was non-HD sky before, the quality seems clearer for me now. Some people reckoned that Internet Explorer was better but I haven't bothered to switch from Chrome yet as the service so far has been perfect.
Others I know have reported similar experiences thus far.
Started reading the whinge-piece above until I realised he hadn't even tried it. Wow, that's a lot of angry opinion about something he hasn't even seen.
I've only ever had it skip a second or two occasionally. Which sky was actually doing quite a lot last season anyway (unsure if that's from their broadcast or if my mysky hard drive was corrupted).
My dad did have it freeze once.
Sheesh. Yeah you'd hope that is a fake account.
Seems to be his account. Don't see the tweet though.
It looks like it has been deleted, it was part of a conversation with Devlin...
Sheesh. Yeah you'd hope that is a fake account.
Seems to be his account. Don't see the tweet though.
It looks like it has been deleted, it was part of a conversation with Devlin...
Guess we've all tweeted something we regret. Especially in a conversation with someone else, forgetting that its actually a public tweet. But yeah not the classiest tweet in the world
Sheesh. Yeah you'd hope that is a fake account.
Seems to be his account. Don't see the tweet though.
It looks like it has been deleted, it was part of a conversation with Devlin...
Guess we've all tweeted something we regret. Especially in a conversation with someone else, forgetting that its actually a public tweet. But yeah not the classiest tweet in the world
This one's pretty good too...
Sheesh. Yeah you'd hope that is a fake account.
Seems to be his account. Don't see the tweet though.
It looks like it has been deleted, it was part of a conversation with Devlin...
Guess we've all tweeted something we regret. Especially in a conversation with someone else, forgetting that its actually a public tweet. But yeah not the classiest tweet in the world
This one's pretty good too...
amateur hour
Not a lot wrong with that :p
Here at wellington airport there's a Hyundai sitting here and you can sign up for a test drive and they'll give you a free day pass to plp to "test drive" it too. Big advert behind the car too.
Interesting to see how Tim Martin Tweets...
Another reason to sign up...