Coliseum Sports - EPL Overlords

I just work all day Sunday usually. So games I really want to watch are 1-2 days or live, others are 3-5 days. Am not usually too heartbroken if I accidentally find out somehow for those games, but would have been fairly annoyed finding out like that. 

Tend to agree with 2nd Best here, spoilers are hardly spoilers after 3 days in the world of sports.

It was 2 days. I figure they're paid to show EPL (or in this case WCQ) on demand, and they're hardly doing that if they go round telling their customers the results in email. Its not hard to warn that it contains spoilers. 

They essentially said "if you haven't seen England v Ukraine yet, its on the website now, oh and here is the result". It was a bit dumb is all I'm saying. 

Yeah fair enough, agree that it's a bit dumb. They do tend to be a bit useless with the little things like that (also having the score showing as the default option when you open the ap for instance).

Neither here nor there on the spoiler thing but the tone of that tweet (as much as a tweet can have tone) was pretty poor. Seemed like it was having a dig. I might be the only one that thought that but there you go.

there have been a few lazy/thoughtless tweets imo

whoever does their tweet replies needs to go on a customer relations course - it is possible to tweet w/o being a smartarse

Particualrly for this season, I'd rather the business survived and I guess realising that tweeting cool is not as important as (at least appearing to) respecting the customer would do a bit to help 

sky never did this

Haha. 

Only due to non-coverage. 

To be fair these were additional games that they didn't have to show.  Perhaps a bit of an error with their e-mail but I suspect 95% of people who were interested in the game would have found out the results within hours of it finishing.  I quite like the fact they've got a bit of an attitude with their communication.

To be honest light-hearted and matey wouldn't bother me that much. It wouldn't impress me but I just wouldn't care. 

But they seem to go beyond that to an arrogance which is quite aggressive at times. IIRC were they having quite an aggressive and abusive go at Sky on twitter recently?

Edit: Had a look through the thread and I was thinking of your post number #1348. You called it spot on there, not particularly classy.

have they just pulled the preview show without telling us? !!!

I paid for that and expect to be able to see it before 7.43 on a Saturday night

you expected them to be humble? not possible after the aggressive manner in which they started - clearly it seems to be their way of doing things.

Rakovic(?) on Radiosport was scathing of the quality just now...

The major downside as I see it of PLP compared to Sky is in terms of the viewing window, having checked out PLP's season schedule which lists which games will be "On Demand" and which available only live or for 24 hours after live broadcast:

http://coliseumsportsmedia.com/plp/ODB_30AUG.pdf

- only 25 of each club's 38 games will be available "On Demand" to watch for a week after live broadcast - the other 13 you'll have to either watch live at 2 am or so, or in the next 24 hours after live broadcast.

Unlike with Sky where games were repeated several times throughout the week.

You also can't copy games from PLP as you could with Sky to watch at your own convenience.

I note that most rounds, four or five games are NOT "On Demand" - which seems pretty bad - yet it reaches ridiculous levels on some matchdays e.g. Week 22 Sat. 11/1 : ONLY FOUR GAMES ON DEMAND - SIX AVAILABLE ONLY FOR 24 HOURS !!!

It's only on the last four weeks of the season when they're showing nearly all games "On Demand."

So as an example, for someone who's say, a Spurs supporter, and doesn't like watching games live, they only have 24 hours to watch many of their games e.g. none of Spurs'  games in Weeks 8, 10 or 11 (three continuous weeks - Week 9 has no matches) are "On Demand" so for three weeks they would only be able to watch Spurs  on the day after the match. Too bad if they're busy  those days!!! I can say there would be many days, especially in the summer, when I was out all day on a Sunday and not able to watch games...

So, actually a supporter of any of the clubs whose club channels are broadcast on Sky TV or Sommet Sports (i.e. Man Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Man City, Chelsea and Liverpool) would often have to rely on those channels if they want to watch a match that's not "On Demand" on PLP and watching it on Sunday (or Monday or mid-week for some games) wasn't convenient. Also supporters of other clubs would find it sometimes necessary to watch on TV if their club was on one of the club channels.

Also, if you go away, as many do especially over the summer, you might not be able to access PLP and miss a few weeks of games - whereas with Sky I always program my DVD recorder to record games when I'm out of town and catch up on returning. And avoiding hearing the scores is not really  a problem when camping or staying with non-football following friends. (Avoiding the football results in the paper is crucial though).

Sucks to be a Spurs supporter sometimes (well most times actually). 

Them's the breaks I guess (and f*ck all the rest I say.  Except Toon. And the Bees,  and the Nix)

(and Guangzhou Fuli)

That's very true - but you have to remember to compare it against a SKY service that didn't show all games every week.  If SKY had shown a bit more initiative and shown all the games (if they could/were allowed?), then there would be no need for PLP and I think everyone would be up in arms about the current service.  SKY left a gap in the market and these guys filled it.

That's the thing which is the major upside of the PLP service for me - the potential to watch all the games (even if some you have to within 24 hours). 

it's not about inititiative though - it all comes down the mighty $$$$

what I'm reading in this thread is that PLP still leaves a hige gap compared to what they were said they would do ie every game every week. Pretty sure sky showed most if not all games each week?

They do play every game every week, and even threw in a couple of World Cup qualifiers. Sky showed 7-8, of which about 5 were live, depending on channel availability. And of course it all comes down to $, that's the same for sky, coliseum and just about any service we are likely to get. They can fill a gap in a market, shown initiative and make $ at the same time. Most companies do this. 

Circumstantial

so what are you guys who have ditched sky going to do to watch a-league/world cup etc games? does PLP show these too? what about the otehr sports you wtch - or do you only watch football now?

I haven't ditched sky. Ideally the sports they have will get unbundled (whether they do it themselves, or coliseum win more rights, or another company does). Then we'd have more content, and you pay for what you want. Its already starting to be shown what a bit of competition can do, we have more football and sport in general on than we ever have before when sky was the sole provider. 

Anyway, I feel like I've had this conversation about 4 times now. Just scroll back through the thread, its all there. 

Um no. I guess I don't hold smithy in as high regard as you apparently do. Paulm is right, early adopters will be on board now, the service will get better, as will people's Internet and hardware then people will catch up. This happens with just about any new product. 

But no, I only think that smithy not signing up means that they have 1 less subscriber than they would if he did sign up. I know plenty of others who are like him who have signed up. 

I've also found (in general) that those who are most critical of the service, are those who don't even have it. This tends to support the early adoption theory. 

you have more football than ever before.  Personally, I had significantly more football when Sky was the sole provider.

I ditched SKY Sports (haven't quite been able to convince the misses that we can live without Food TV yet and dump the whole package).  The main things I found myself watching was the EPL, the Phoenix away games and the American Sports.  I'd also watch the annual events such as the Tour de France, some of the tennis majors and a few things like that. 

I personally despise rugby.  That in itself is basically reason to drop SS1.  I found myself watching less and less league and cricket over the last couple of years and I haven't seen a netball game for about 3 years.  Take those four out plus no EPL and there's not a whole lot left for me to justify the costs of keeping it. 

The NFL Pass is still free in New Zealand and I'll probably look to pay for the MLB next season.  I can still get access to shows like Pardon the Interruption (US version) & Around the Horn via i-tunes.   In saying that, if SKY had the option of dropping the Sports but keeping ESPN, I probably would have taken that.

There's no doubt I'll miss watching some of those things I mentioned in the first paragraph, but the costs can't justify me keeping SKY - plus now I have the benefit of watching all the EPL games I want.  I'm not sure what I'll do re: away nix games and the World Cup.  Could be a lot of radio commentary, but I'm sure I'll figure out something.  I went to SA for the last World Cup, but I'm pretty sure TV 1 played the latter stages (probably delayed though - can't remember?).

Wouldn't it be nice if you could just purchase a World Cup package and not be committed to the rest of it?

come again?

I also thought that the World Cup had to be on free-to-air TV?  I know that is definitely the case in the UK but I thought that FIFA imposed that rule on all countries when confirming the television rights.

European Champs will probably be a different story