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TVNZ to be a free to air partner?

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Press conference scheduled 2pm where "Coliseum" will reveal details:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10891580

Ha! Ha! Sky's share price dropped 6% on news of loss of EPL...

These "Coliseum" people should learn to spell - hate these commercial f***ers who flaunt basic illiteracy - IT'S SPELT "COLLOSEUM" !!!

 

Some info on thIS new EPL rights holder "Colosseum":

http://www.radiosport.co.nz/news/1551216184-football--newcomer-to-sports-rights-market

"Coliseum EPL Management Limited is thought to be the new owner of the rights to the English Premier League here.

Sky TV has been outbid for the rights by an internet start up company.

While Sky founder Craig Heatley's new 818 venture has been linked to the news, Coliseum EPL Management Limited has been registered with the Companies office.

Matthew Cockram and Timothy Martin are registered with the Companies Office as the directors of Coliseum.

Cockram is one of the drivers behind the redevelopment of Britomart in Auckland.

It's understood further details about Coliseum's plans will come to light next week."

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PROBLEM AS I SEE IT:

(1) While Sky retain rights to Phoenix and A-League, All Whites, Football Ferns (although as mentioned above in thread, less people watch "the top four EPL games than a Phoenix game"), still a lot of people will think "Stuff paying Sky TV $74 / month for Basic and Sports - I'm off to "Coliseum" for unlimited EPL coverage for only $180 - $200 per annum."

This will lead to lower viewing figures for Phoenix and All Whites matches etc. on Sky

(2) If you want to continue watching both EPL - and Phoenix, All Whites, UEFA Champions Lge etc. it costs a lot more now: $888 / year for Sky ($74 / week for Basic and Sport) PLUS $180 - $200 / year for Coliseum (quoted in media - could be more).

PLUSES:

(1) More choice of football to watch with Coliseum covering leagues not covered by Sky like Serie A and French Ligue 1

(2) Will it force Sky to get its act together more and screen more football?

(3) Much cheaper if you're only interested in the EPL rather than Kiwi football (most British and other immigrants fall in this camp in my experience).


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JonoNewton wrote:

So new consortium has Serie A, Ligue 1 & EPL (Is chasing La Liga)

Sky has All Whites (2012), A-League + Champs League & MLS through ESPN

Sommet has Bundesliga, Championship, League 1, League 2, Europa League, League Cup & Argentinian League (Also FA Cups from around the world, Chelsea TV & looking to get one other club to allow two delayed games a week)

Hmmm I think looking at this that Sky may have some competition for the WC coverage as well.


From articles today Coliseum is in talks with at least one Telco about broadcasting in different mediums...(Vodafone? Looking to add some different stuff to their Telstra TV?), or are they just talking internet & phones?



Sommet has the rights to show games live or to show a highlights package??

Hoping this is to be an exciting new era of competition.

@Ryan
TVNZ has done little to actively challenge Sky, especially following the cancelling of 6 and 7 and the charter. Can't see them doing anything but being whipped.
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Smithy wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Smithy wrote:

http://www.radiolivesport.co.nz/Audio/John-Fellet---We-put-in-our-best-offer-to-secure-the-EPL/tabid/252/articleID/14681/Default.aspx


A Wellington Phoenix game rates higher than the top 4 EPL games in any weekend put together. Fascinating.

Would that include people recording? If not, thats not too surprising. 


I believe it does. They count any viewer.



Time difference wouldn't help ratings for EPL games. 


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Sky scramble as impact becomes a market-impacting event. Something it would seem they didn't expect:




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So their decision to submit a lowball monopoly offer for the rights is going to cost them more than than if they had just stumped up more cash in the first place. Hilarious.

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http://premierleaguepass.com/


All 380 games live, many more OnDemand, HD streaming, streaming on Android and iOS devices, watch multiple games simultaneously.

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The share price drop may be a response to the emergence of two genuine competitors rather than to the loss of the EPL rights per se. The loss of the EPL rights could be merely a signal that there are two genuine choices to those disaffected with the high cost of SKY, and not an indication of the value of the EPL overall to SKY.

Sommet has BUNDESLIGA full games live or just the highlights package from FACE TV? Emailed them to find out...

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You can vote and let them know if you're interested in watching MLS, Serie A and Ligue 1 after you regsiter your interest.


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http://tvnz.co.nz/football-news/every-epl-game-screen-live-online-5469219 match of the week on sundays on tvnz. highlights monday nights. $25 for a day. $150 for season. $240 for "platinum" pass

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You can vote and let them know if you're interested in watching MLS, Serie A and Ligue 1 after you regsiter your interest.


Please register your interest for ALL the leagues. The more leagues they offer, the better.
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More positive than I'd anticipated. Looking forward to a decrease in my sky sub.

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patrick478 wrote:

You can vote and let them know if you're interested in watching MLS, Serie A and Ligue 1 after you regsiter your interest.


Please register your interest for ALL the leagues. The more leagues they offer, the better.



Yep I've done it.  Also like this

Watch up to four games simultaneously with multiple viewing modes.


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AppleTV  fantastic..that suits me with my new setup...now my two favourite sports MLB and EPL sorted...just need them to get A-league and I will kick sky for touch!

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Not happy about this, how much bandwidth is 4 games at once going to use at 1080p? 

I enjoy the way Sky does EPL, I like watching it on my 55inch TV not some laggy laptop... 

Hopefully Sky buys back the rights after noone signs up for this, $25 for a day, you have to be having a laugh. $180 a year equals about $5 to watch every Arsenal game, that's more than I pay for Sky Sport a week.

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Radio Sport ?@radiosportnz10m

BREAKING: TVNZ will broadcast 38 #EPL games delayed as part of a new television broadcast deal - more soon...


Radio Sport ?@radiosportnz9m

BREAKING: Coliseum Sports Media will broadcast all #EPL games live online - more soon..

2:11 PM - 19 Jun 13 · Details



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Whilst this may be practical for myself I can't help but feel it's going to be a pain in the ass for my parents and other tech illiterate people.  Hopefully one account can screen games simultaneously.

And Goonertron if I recall correctly is $3 per match from Arsenal player.

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Another thing that people aren't talking about is how are people supposed to get introduced and fall in love with the sport when it is behind a pay bracket. I have only got back into EPL the last 3 and a half years after the All Whites campaign in 2010, I feel I wouldn't of gone down this rabbit hole of watching every game and checking transfer rumors if I couldn't simply watch and record it on Sky Sport. 

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Goonertron wrote:

Another thing that people aren't talking about is how are people supposed to get introduced and fall in love with the sport when it is behind a pay bracket. I have only got back into EPL the last 3 and a half years after the All Whites campaign in 2010, I feel I wouldn't of gone down this rabbit hole of watching every game and checking transfer rumors if I couldn't simply watch and record it on Sky Sport. 


TVOne will have Match of the Week at 12pm every Sunday and a highlights package every Monday night, so this will actually cause more exposure for football in this country. Anyone with a TV will have some coverage of it now, not just Sky subscribers. Not to mention that Sommet Sports are going to be broadcasting a wide range of football leagues on Freeview next season.
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patrick478 wrote:

You can vote and let them know if you're interested in watching MLS, Serie A and Ligue 1 after you regsiter your interest.


Please register your interest for ALL the leagues. The more leagues they offer, the better.

Well it would be nice if all football was aggregated together by one provider, I am really looking forward to what Sommet Sports provides.
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patrick478 wrote:
Goonertron wrote:

Another thing that people aren't talking about is how are people supposed to get introduced and fall in love with the sport when it is behind a pay bracket. I have only got back into EPL the last 3 and a half years after the All Whites campaign in 2010, I feel I wouldn't of gone down this rabbit hole of watching every game and checking transfer rumors if I couldn't simply watch and record it on Sky Sport. 


TVOne will have Match of the Week at 12pm every Sunday and a highlights package every Monday night, so this will actually cause more exposure for football in this country. Anyone with a TV will have some coverage of it now, not just Sky subscribers. Not to mention that Sommet Sports are going to be broadcasting a wide range of football leagues on Freeview next season.

So Man United games every sunday...
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$150 doesn't seem like a bad price (roughly equivalent to a Nix season ticket).

Ability to watch on a mobile device is a significant advantage (and through AppleTV if you are iOS).

Cost of streaming that much data will be significant but hope for maybe an unmetered deal with ISPs to come? Data coming down in price quite a bit these days anyway.

Not sure why all games can't be on demand. Compared with ability to record on MySky or Telstra T-Box that seems like a disadvantage.


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patrick478 wrote:
Goonertron wrote:

Another thing that people aren't talking about is how are people supposed to get introduced and fall in love with the sport when it is behind a pay bracket. I have only got back into EPL the last 3 and a half years after the All Whites campaign in 2010, I feel I wouldn't of gone down this rabbit hole of watching every game and checking transfer rumors if I couldn't simply watch and record it on Sky Sport. 


TVOne will have Match of the Week at 12pm every Sunday and a highlights package every Monday night, so this will actually cause more exposure for football in this country. Anyone with a TV will have some coverage of it now, not just Sky subscribers. Not to mention that Sommet Sports are going to be broadcasting a wide range of football leagues on Freeview next season.



Yip, if all you have is Freeview then with Sommet Sports coming on the scene and some free EPL on TVNZ you are now significantly better off as a footy fan. On balance I think this is a big boost for football in NZ. NZF should be considering jumping ship to one of Sommet or Coliseum also. Then the only issue is the A-League.

Of course, this will only be the situation for the next year or two until all the rights get re-negotiated and go back on the merry-go-round again.


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Wonder if the monday highlights will be the "Premier League Review" show?

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When are a-league rights back up for renewal in NZ? with two new serious players on the scene this could get interesting. The only challenge i can see is that with a-league games as well as All whites in NZ the games are produced by sky ( i far as i'm aware) so would a new rights holder have to take this over? a bit trickier then merely buying the rights to a satellite feed

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terminator_x wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
Goonertron wrote:

Another thing that people aren't talking about is how are people supposed to get introduced and fall in love with the sport when it is behind a pay bracket. I have only got back into EPL the last 3 and a half years after the All Whites campaign in 2010, I feel I wouldn't of gone down this rabbit hole of watching every game and checking transfer rumors if I couldn't simply watch and record it on Sky Sport. 


TVOne will have Match of the Week at 12pm every Sunday and a highlights package every Monday night, so this will actually cause more exposure for football in this country. Anyone with a TV will have some coverage of it now, not just Sky subscribers. Not to mention that Sommet Sports are going to be broadcasting a wide range of football leagues on Freeview next season.



Yip, if all you have is Freeview then with Sommet Sports coming on the scene and some free EPL on TVNZ you are now significantly better off as a footy fan. On balance I think this is a big boost for football in NZ. NZF should be considering jumping ship to one of Sommet or Coliseum also. Then the only issue is the A-League.

Of course, this will only be the situation for the next year or two until all the rights get re-negotiated and go back on the merry-go-round again.


Yes, but the majority of hard core sports fans have Sky TV. A League, Champions League, World Cup and FA Cup all still on Sky. Plus Cricket, Rugby, NRL, Tennis, Golf, Basketball and F1 This is just going to be a costly inconvenience to most consumers and most will be watching in 480p max with NZ's shoddy internet and let's not forget about the rural internet speeds... I'll just stick to vipbox.eu and watch it free. I ain't going to pay this company their ransom money.
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WOW !!! EPL matches for free on TV One - will really promote football amongst the casual viewers. My elderly football- mad parents will love this (they don't have Sky). Even better than the old days of "Big League Soccer" on a Sunday lunchtime back in the 70's and 80's:

http://www.radiosport.co.nz/news/889438947-football--english-premier-league-games-to-be-live-online

"TV One will air a delayed match of the week every Sunday, as well as a one hour highlights package."

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Sommet Sports on Freeview will apparently be able to offer two delayed EPL games a week:

See last sentence of this report just updated by the Herald:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10891580

"Sommet Sports, soon to be available on Freeview Channel 14, will still be able to show two delayed EPL games per week."

Sommet Sports are currently broadcasting as a test on Freeview ch. 114 - daily program schedule on their Facebook page here: (last week had full replays of Capital Cup Chelsea v Swansea, Europa League games from last season , Europa League Highlights.) 

https://www.facebook.com/SommetSports for further updates over coming weeks. (This Facebook page has their current program schedule too)

By the way, Sommet Sports will be streaming all their broadcasts on their website after launching within the next two months.

Website here (not fully launched yet): http://www.sommetsports.co.nz/

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This story has aroused so much interest - someone's posted a pretty funny satirical clip on You Tube about it -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhhldv-mSOc

der Fuehrer: "and then I will only have darts and netball..Maybe I could salvage the croquet."  


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Big Pete 65 wrote:

Sommet Sports on Freeview will apparently be able to offer two delayed EPL games a week:

See last sentence of this report just updated by the Herald:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10891580

"Sommet Sports, soon to be available on Freeview Channel 14, will still be able to show two delayed EPL games per week."

Sommet Sports are currently broadcasting as a test on Freeview ch. 114 - daily program schedule on their Facebook page here: (last week had full replays of Capital Cup Chelsea v Swansea, Europa League games from last season , Europa League Highlights.) 

https://www.facebook.com/SommetSports for further updates over coming weeks. (This Facebook page has their current program schedule too)


Yeah sommet have a deal with Chelsea TV to show all their games like 48 hours after they're played or something like that. they're going to get another deal like this set up so they'll have two games a week.
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JarrodM wrote:
Big Pete 65 wrote:

Sommet Sports on Freeview will apparently be able to offer two delayed EPL games a week:

See last sentence of this report just updated by the Herald:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10891580

"Sommet Sports, soon to be available on Freeview Channel 14, will still be able to show two delayed EPL games per week."

Sommet Sports are currently broadcasting as a test on Freeview ch. 114 - daily program schedule on their Facebook page here: (last week had full replays of Capital Cup Chelsea v Swansea, Europa League games from last season , Europa League Highlights.) 

https://www.facebook.com/SommetSports for further updates over coming weeks. (This Facebook page has their current program schedule too)


Yeah sommet have a deal with Chelsea TV to show all their games like 48 hours after they're played or something like that. they're going to get another deal like this set up so they'll have two games a week.

Who cares about sport 2 days later, it's impossible to not hear the results in this day and age. Might be alot easier though when noone is talking about the EPL anymore once it is on this PPV model.
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this is BS. If I am watching football over the internet, I sure as hell am not paying for it. What will be the difference between this and vipbox.eu ?

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"Derek" going off on Radiosport today.  "So typical of this country...fat chicks in weird skirts,,,"  Then "Stellar" and Anne ringing in telling him to retract...LOLS...  

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nufc_nz wrote:

this is BS. If I am watching football over the internet, I sure as hell am not paying for it. What will be the difference between this and vipbox.eu ?

Convenience, quality and legality. 
A reasonable equivalent would be listening to high quality streaming music over Spotify, which is nicely sorted by album/artist etc and it's easy to find exactly what you want in fantastic quality, as opposed to downloading from the Pirate Bay and finding out that you've got a shitty 120kbps copy with all the tracks out of order and no cover art. Also, one is legal and one is not.
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New EPL site      http://www.premierleaguepass.com/

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patrick478 wrote:
nufc_nz wrote:

this is BS. If I am watching football over the internet, I sure as hell am not paying for it. What will be the difference between this and vipbox.eu ?

Convenience, quality and legality. 

A reasonable equivalent would be listening to high quality streaming music over Spotify, which is nicely sorted by album/artist etc and it's easy to find exactly what you want in fantastic quality, as opposed to downloading from the Pirate Bay and finding out that you've got a shitty 120kbps copy with all the tracks out of order and no cover art. Also, one is legal and one is not.


one is free and one is not.
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nufc_nz wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
nufc_nz wrote:

this is BS. If I am watching football over the internet, I sure as hell am not paying for it. What will be the difference between this and vipbox.eu ?

Convenience, quality and legality. 

A reasonable equivalent would be listening to high quality streaming music over Spotify, which is nicely sorted by album/artist etc and it's easy to find exactly what you want in fantastic quality, as opposed to downloading from the Pirate Bay and finding out that you've got a shitty 120kbps copy with all the tracks out of order and no cover art. Also, one is legal and one is not.


one is free and one is not.


If you want to be slapped with a $10,000 fine for illegally downloading music rather than paying $2 for the song, then go for it.
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patrick478 wrote:
nufc_nz wrote:

this is BS. If I am watching football over the internet, I sure as hell am not paying for it. What will be the difference between this and vipbox.eu ?

Convenience, quality and legality. 

A reasonable equivalent would be listening to high quality streaming music over Spotify, which is nicely sorted by album/artist etc and it's easy to find exactly what you want in fantastic quality, as opposed to downloading from the Pirate Bay and finding out that you've got a shitty 120kbps copy with all the tracks out of order and no cover art. Also, one is legal and one is not.

I didn't think it was illegal to watch streamed games on the web - it is illegal to stream them without the correct authorisation, but if someone does that it is not illegal to watch them.

And who really cares about the cover art or the tracks being out of order if illegally downloading an album?

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