England squad
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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No Owen, Crouch recalled, no Young or Gabby Ag, yet Downing and Defoe are both there.
TheJam2008-10-06 08:43:52
But then again, I didn't actually see the squad being named, so I shouldn't really comment.....
ENGLAND SQUAD: James (Portsmouth), Green (West Ham), Carson (West Brom); Brown (Manchester United), Johnson (Portsmouth), Terry (Chelsea), Ferdinand (Manchester United), Lescott (Everton), Upson (West Ham), A Cole (Chelsea), Bridge (Chelsea); Beckham (Los Angeles Galaxy), Walcott (Arsenal), Barry (Aston Villa), Jenas (Tottenham), Lampard (Chelsea), Gerrard (Liverpool), Downing (Middlesbrough), Wright-Phillips (Manchester City); Heskey (Wigan), Crouch (Portsmouth), Rooney (Manchester United), Defoe (Portsmouth).
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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SWP has done well to earn his call back up into the squad. Good effort from the little man! 
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Yeah, I thought he'd be back. Brown I'm a bit surprised by given he's been dropped by United (and is, as I've said before, horribly overrated). And Michael Owen has surely been doing enough lately to be in the squad, if not the starting team.
Again I'll ask, why do England persevere with Stewart Downing and Jermaine Defoe?
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Jermaine Defoe has been on fire this season though, if they can get him to replicate his Pompey form at international level they will be sorted.
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defoe fair call - SWP nice one! Lescott.. not exactly in good form not complaining though lol
Jenas looked good in poor team this season so far
Jenas looked good in poor team this season so far
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how much longer can Beckham be given?
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who knows. wasnt the idea a little while back that Bentley would be taking a beckham role for england? i guess thats gone at the window now that hes gone to spurs and has therefore become shyte.
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why do England persevere with Stewart Downing and Jermaine Defoe?
I daresay the golden boot table has convinced Capello that Defoe is worth another chance:
5, 2008
Rank
Player
Team
Goals
1
Jermain Defoe
Portsmouth
5
Fernando Torres
Liverpool
5
Amr Zaki
Wigan
5
4
Kevin Cyril Davies
Bolton
4
Nicolas Anelka
Chelsea
4
John Carew
Aston Villa
4
Gabriel Agbonlahor
Aston Villa
4
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Brown I'm a bit surprised by given he's been dropped by United
Has he? I just saw him score in the highlights of Man Utd against Blackburn. Soccernet says he's played in 4 of Man U's 6 matches - only 5 players have played more.
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Again I'll ask, why do England persevere with Stewart Downing and Jermaine Defoe?
Because they have no other options ?
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Lol on that reasoning Kevin Davies should be given a shot SiNZ! Why not just for a laugh
what the bloody hell are Agbonlahor and Ashley Young not doing in that squad!!
what the bloody hell are Agbonlahor and Ashley Young not doing in that squad!!
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Actually, talking of highlights, did you see Crouch's goal from the weekend? A spectacular overhead kick. In the interview, he said he was pleased as those can so often go wrong and make you look silly.... was I the only one to think of that overhead he tried in 2006 where he came out looking really silly? I can't remember - was it against Trinidad & Tobago in round one?
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Lol on that reasoning Kevin Davies should be given a shot SiNZ! Why not just for a laugh
Well let's hope Capello isn't looking!
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omg.. downing is such a waste of space.. wheres young!
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Again I'll ask, why do England persevere with Stewart Downing and Jermaine Defoe?
Because they have no other options ?
But they do have News, as mentioned. Gabby Agbonlahor and Ashley Young are far, far superior players. Defoe is looking good at club level as he often does, but he's proved time and time again that he's not quite good enough to step up.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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I wonder why Kevin Davies always gets dubbed Kevin 'Cyril' Davies by soccernet? It's not a middle name I'd want to shout about.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Lol on that reasoning Kevin Davies should be given a shot SiNZ!
"Supppper super KEV Super super KEV super super KEV SUPER KEVIN DAVIES!"
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Was reading on another forum about a potential England call up for Almunia. What would you lads make of it all?
Personally i'd love to see it although i do understand he needs to earn it first but if he does surely he's worth a punt.
Personally i'd love to see it although i do understand he needs to earn it first but if he does surely he's worth a punt.
Three for me, and two for them.
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I'm not sure though that either Agbonlahor or Young are really replacements for Defoe, young definitely not, he operates much more in the channels without his back to goal.
Bentley is just playing so badly he couldn't be picked.
How does Jenas still get picked, I've never seen him dominate a game at club level let alone internationals...he's just not up to it!
Almunia, the red tops would have a field day, it won't happen. Did you see the furore when Darren Pattinson (basically an aussie) was called up by the england cricket team? It was like he'd conspired against them, and this was in the broad sheets!
Normo's coming home
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I think Agbonlahor could do the striker's role for England. he's able to play either out wide or up front with Carew, playing off him. Certainly a better option than Defoe IMHO.
Ashley Young is just a straight swap for Stewart Downing. I can understand Defoe's selection a lot more than I can understand Downing's. I mean, what's he ever done at international level? Hell, even at club level he's only slightly above the level of an average Premiership player. I'd be interested to hear the opinions of any Boro' fans on here.
As for Almunia, this was first mentioned a year or so ago. Why not? It's not a lot different to John Barnes playing for England.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Was reading on another forum about a potential England call up for Almunia. What would you lads make of it all?
Jam - it's not like John Barnes playing for England. Barnes settled in England as a boy and grew up in England.
A better analogy would be Deco playing for Portugal. Deco didn't leave Brazil for Portugal until he was 20 and was already a professional football player. Unlike Barnes, his sole purpose for taking up Portuguese citizenship was to play international football.
I'd be opposed to Almunia's selection and I'd be surprised if it was a genuine possibility. Having a non-national manager is a reluctant thing, but having a non-national player is well over the line. Anyway, he first has to apply and get UK citizenship. Being Spanish and an EU citizen, I doubt he would have any reasons to do this apart from "doing a Deco".
How long has he been resident in England? I read somewhere that FIFA were possibly upping the residency requirement for new citizenships from 2 to 5 years (but I'm not sure when or if that is happening).
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The role of goalkeeper with stupid hair in the England squad is already taken by David James.
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Update: The 5 year residency requirement is now in force instead of 2 years.
Reference: http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/84831,rule-change-knocks-out-jonas.aspx?r=rss
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Also Almunia qualifies as an English citizen through his English wife.
What about Hargreaves though? Yes his parents were English but he never lived in the country until he was signed for United, yet no one seems to have any problems with his selection.
Besides, at least Almunia seems to want to play for England unlike some players *cough*Carragher*cough*
What about Hargreaves though? Yes his parents were English but he never lived in the country until he was signed for United, yet no one seems to have any problems with his selection.
Besides, at least Almunia seems to want to play for England unlike some players *cough*Carragher*cough*
Three for me, and two for them.
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Also Almunia qualifies as an English citizen through his English wife.
What about Hargreaves though? Yes his parents were English but he never lived in the country until he was signed for United, yet no one seems to have any problems with his selection.
Besides, at least Almunia seems to want to play for England unlike some players *cough*Carragher*cough*
What about Hargreaves though? Yes his parents were English but he never lived in the country until he was signed for United, yet no one seems to have any problems with his selection.
Besides, at least Almunia seems to want to play for England unlike some players *cough*Carragher*cough*
Almunia qualifies to apply for Citizenship via his wife. He doesn't get it unless he applies, though it should be a formality. He still has to satisfy FIFA's residency rules on second citizenships.
Hargreaves is a good example, as you say. He has always held UK citizenship though, having acquired it at birth.
Carragher, Scholes, Shearer... yeah agree. I hate seeing a player retire themselves from national selection whatever their country. "In my day" you retired from international football when the manager stopped pick you and not before. Bah!
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Good point. Scholes' retirement from international football was so damned selfish. He was only 29 with a few years of international football ahead.
To my mind, Scholes is an arsehole, forget the whole "low profile" crap, he's a parasite, just take what you can.
TheJam2008-10-08 19:47:17Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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That 'low profile' is why his retirement isn't talked about. Unlike
Carragher's who has been highly publicised through various radio
interviews and his autobiography.
Footballers these days
Footballers these days
Three for me, and two for them.
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