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Fabrice Muamba

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Thought this deserved its own thread. Its a horrible situation and no doubt we all wish him and his family all the best.

There's an article on the Guardian website explaining the medical condition responsible:

"Hocum is the innocuous nickname for a deadly disorder: hypertrophic obstructive cardiomyopathy (HOCM). Young, fit athletes have hearts that are a little different from most people. Their well-exercised heart muscle has been reshaped to adapt to the stress of regular, vigorous training.

This remodelling of the heart is useful, as it helps to pump blood more effectively round the body. But in HOCM, a genetic abnormality causes the muscle wall of the heart to grow far thicker than it should. Repeated training makes the problem worse � the muscle wall can become so thick that it stops the normal flow of blood going in and out of the heart. This is where things get dangerous.

A heart that cannot pump blood properly causes problems that usually affect far older and far less healthy people. An athlete with HOCM might seem very fit but the heart is struggling like that of an unwell 80-year-old. Sudden strain, like a football match, demands an overwhelming effort. If he is lucky, shortness of breath or chest pain is a warning sign that something is wrong. But often the first signs of trouble are collapse or what doctors call sudden cardiac death."

Scary stuff!

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It's crazy scary the amount of players in recent years who have passed away from cardiac arrest, while playing or even in training.

Hope he gets better.

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A very scary situation indeed. It's very heartwarming to see the outpouring of support from other players/teams.
 
Certainly puts a lot into perspective.
 
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Yeah it happened to a few players a couple of years ago. All professionals in leagues not as high profile as the EPL.
 
It's certainly scary.

Allegedly

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Marc Vivien Foe was a pretty high profile case, same sort of thing happened during a Confederations Cup match and he died a few hours later. Hope Muamba's outcome is better!

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BarryZuckerkorn wrote:
Marc Vivien Foe was a pretty high profile case, same sort of thing happened during a Confederations Cup match and he died a few hours later. Hope Muamba's outcome is better!
 
I was at the Cameroon vs Brazil game at the Confeds Cup a week or so before the game against Colombia which he died in.  I had kept an eye on him during that game as he had been a West Ham player not long before that.  It was tragic what happened to him, and it is tragic what has happened to Fabrice Muamba (and any other player that this has happened to).

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Very sad indeed. Still critical.

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Interesting , I wasn't aware the hospital had released the condition responsible for Muamba's collapse. The dude in the guardian may just be making an educated guess ; there are  number of other causes why highly trained athletes collapse suddenly , HOCM being only one of them.
Muamba's progress will be determined by 2 things- the state of his heart function and his brain function. Any time the heart stops , the brain gets deprived of blood , and more importantly   , oxygen.Previously we used to think that the time taken to reestablish a beating heart was critical to brain recovery-I'm less convinced now of that given some of the other things we can do to try to preserve brain function such as therapeutic hypothermia.With very quick CPR , and more critically , defibrillation , then that actual time may be less important so long as the CPR was effective.From what we could see , there was a very quick response.
Anyhoo , time for a Grandadi -style prediction. I thnk Muanda may well be OK from a brain prespective and stands a reasonable chance of a good neurological recovery. His cardiac recovery depends on the underlying diagnosis.His footy career may well be over but if he ends up aliove and "normal' , who cares?
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Saw  somewhere this morning he is talking and recognising visitors. Good News
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Good to see how much the football world has got behind this. As much as I hate them, even the Madridistas had shirts for him (and Abidal)...
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Wait for those knobs at  the FA to charge Cahill.
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Sounds like he's gonna be alright, am wondering if he will ever be able to play or even want to play again.

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depends a bit on underlying problem.
If its HOCM , surgery is sometimes performed.If not , meds but some of them are on banned substance lists from WADA.
If a primary arrhythmia , he may end up with an implantable defibrillator so most people would say avoid contact sport , not that footie is a contact sport of course ( ask Marco)
Primary thing is his recovery.I'll be quite surpised if he plays again.Having said that , there is a VERY high level cyclist in NZ with a cardiac condition- told by Docs to never ride again and did retire briefly but is back in the saddle and competing at high level.
I still think the lad will survive this but the rest is just guesswork.
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Hayden Roulston was one cyclist who was told that, right?

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Big outpouring on Swans site. We lost one of our rising young stars Besian Ifraaj not two years ago, who died in his sleep from an undetected heart problem.
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Daikiwi wrote:
Big outpouring on Swans site. We lost one of our rising young stars Besian Ifraaj not two years ago, who died in his sleep from an undetected heart problem.
 
I remember that. Think he may have played for the 'Pool at one point? Sad stuff all the same
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"Fabrice Muamba was "in effect dead" for 78 minutes following his on-field collapse, the Bolton Wanderers club doctor Jonathan Tobin has revealed."

Chilling stuff..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17460781

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A UK university student has been jailed for 56 days for inciting racial hatred, after posting offensive comments on Twitter about the collapse of Bolton Wanderers footballer Fabrice Muamba.

Magistrates in Swansea, south Wales, sent 21-year-old biology undergraduate Liam Stacey to prison after he admitted the charge at a previous hearing last week. He broke down in tears as he was taken away in handcuffs on Tuesday.

Sentencing the student, district judge John Charles said there was "no alternative" to an immediate prison sentence, as when Muamba collapsed "it was not the football world who was praying for him... everybody was praying for his life".
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/student-jailed-for-vile-tweet-about-fabrice-20120328-1vx5p.html

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Gee there are some c**ts out there 
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Muamba's recovery is nothing short of a miracle. For the most part fans of any football club have been positive and wishing for the best. Sadly one or two individuals in this world are just plain cnuts. Always have been, probably always will be.

Great to see his recovery is going well. But they really need to find out the cause of the attack. Fingers crossed they find it and fix it.
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[QUOTE=Lonegunmen]Muamba's recovery is nothing short of a miracle.[/QUOTE]
 
Oh bollocks . Just f...ing good CPR by the ambos and high quality intensive care at the hospital.No miracle about it. They will have cooled him down to a body temp of less than 33 deg for approx 24 hours.I'm convinced that that makes a huge difference these days.Actual "down time" means very little if the cooling is done early enough and well enough.
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