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My point - and I'll spell it out very slowly for you (and that is the only patronising bit) is that I question whether you can truly love something as much as you claim when you don't truly understand it.  This isn't about you proving to anyone that you're more of a fan, or that you're more of a fan by spending money on something, it's actually about you (and others) understanding what it is that you so deperately want to be a part of.  Maybe you are right if you don't think a football club has anything to do with its community anymore.  I disagree, Newcastle Football Club is still part of the fabric of the city of Newcastle, Arsenal aren't a london club - they are a Nth London Club.  Burnley represent the City of Burnley, the rivalry between 7th place 7th place Liverpool and Everton is about the city itself, not just two corporates with football teams. 
 
Anyway, I think this has reached its natural conclusion.  I hope that your passion does manage to express itself beyond the medium of internet chat rooms in the future.
 
As to the difference between your support for Arsenal and the Phoenix go back and read what you have written and I think you will figure it out - you have written my argument for me.
james dean2010-05-12 02:07:04

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Simon Hampton - let me give you some friendly advice. Ignore a hell of a lot of what has been written in this thread because a lot of it is absolute b**locks. As for putting up that link to the Headhunters website, I have a newsflash. ALL league teams (and some non-league) in England, aside from Macclesfield for some reason, have a recognised firm. A lot of them have websites (Millwall Bushwhackers, West Ham ICF etc). And as for the metal detectors around Stamford Bridge, I've been going for 30yrs and never had that. Also, you'll find all clubs in London refer to Spurs' jewish links. It's not exclusively Chelsea.
 
The best thing you can do Simon, is to cut through the bulls**t, make your own mind up and then stick with that club, no matter what. That's what being a loyal supporter is all about. I wish you luck with your choice, regardless of who that may be...
PaulSG2010-05-12 04:15:35

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Keep going guys.

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james dean wrote:
My point - and I'll spell it out very slowly for you (and that is the only patronising bit) is that I question whether you can truly love something as much as you claim when you don't truly understand it.  This isn't about you proving to anyone that you're more of a fan, or that you're more of a fan by spending money on something, it's actually about you (and others) understanding what it is that you so deperately want to be a part of.  Maybe you are right if you don't think a football club has anything to do with its community anymore.  I disagree, Newcastle Football Club is still part of the fabric of the city of Newcastle, Arsenal aren't a london club - they are a Nth London Club.  Burnley represent the City of Burnley, the rivalry between 7th place 7th place 7th place 7th place Liverpool and Everton is about the city itself, not just two corporates with football teams. 
 
Anyway, I think this has reached its natural conclusion.  I hope that your passion does manage to express itself beyond the medium of internet chat rooms in the future.
 
As to the difference between your support for Arsenal and the Phoenix go back and read what you have written and I think you will figure it out - you have written my argument for me.
 
Maybe I'm in a huge minority, but I think I understand what JD is trying to say. I have to admit that this post sums up how I felt when I started reading through this thread. I'm not having a go at anyone from New Zealand, or anywhere else, who supports Arsenal, Manu Utd, Chelsea or even Hartlepool, and I'm certainly not questioning their commitment to their team of choice.
 
My initial reaction was to question how someone from Wellington (for example) can feel the same way about a club, that they have no real connection to, as someone who was born in that area, lived in that area and that community as part of a family who had supported a club for generations.
 
That said, people are free to support any club they choose to, for whatever reason.   
Jag2010-05-12 09:47:28

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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james dean wrote:
you've completely misrepresented my argument which is unsurprising since you continually focus on your own self righteous beliefs backed based on a complete naievity. 
 
I have never told anyone what they can or cannot do, all I have done is point out my own experiences in similar circumstances, i.e. supporting a team "passionately" from NZ and then actually going to matches and finding the reality to be somewhat different. 
 
I also share the cynicism of some of the other posters on here about how often people, who most definitely aren't jumping on the bandwagon, and who have never been to England, seem to begin supporting the recently strong teams (as opposed even to traditionally strong clubs that are now in a rut - Leeds, Norwich, Forest) and develop a "passionate" support of them.  You don't see too many people who have only ever watched the premiership on television becoming "passionate" fans of Bolton, or Fulham, or Everton, or Aston Villa do you?  I have no problem with people supporting whomever they want to but spare me the sanctimonious rubbish about how and why you developed this amazing "feeling" for them by watching on telly and reading the internet.
 
And I find it more than a little frustrating that people who have never been to England, never watched a live premiership match, tell everyone else how much they know about supporting a football club in the UK.  Because I am just trying to add a bit of realism here, go stand in a pub in Highbury, or with the scallys around Anfield (where every house is boarded up),or in the Shed end (or travel away with the United fans), or go and have a drink in a pub outside stanford bridge where they still chant "lets go f**king mental" and abuse tottenham fans because they're jewish before the matches and you get metal detected for knives and see how much you like it.  You may love it, and if so great, but until you've been there and done that perhaps it's not the best idea to go around telling everyone how much you love everything about that club is it??


even if people are jumping on the bandwagon when they first start supporting a team, how does that make them any less passionate fans???
especially in the long run
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I love this thread - it just keeps on giving.

The thing I can't get my head around is that in the UK the dividing lines are really black and white. In general people support the club from the town (or area) where they were born. You just don't meet guys from Newcastle who support Man Utd or vice versa. If you meet a guy from Huddersfield it is highly likely that he supports Huddersfield and will look at you like you're a moron for even asking the question (OK, so there are exceptions but they are generally Man Utd supporting t**sers from places like Kent where there isn't a decent football team for miles around).

And yet here in NZ, half a world away, we will choose a team - often for the most spurious reasons - and then declare our undying love for them.

Maybe there is a subtle but important difference between supporting a team and supporting a club?

I don't mean this in any disparaging way at all but it seems to me that most Kiwis support a team, in a literal sense. They adopt a team that they have seen on TV and read about on websites, but most of that stuff is focused on the actual first team squad of a club.

I think of a club, however, in a more holistic sense. A club is much bigger than a team of players. It is the history, the culture, the ground, the fans (good and bad) and sometimes even involves religion or politics. Most importantly, it is a community organisation, something that defines as well as reflects its local community. These are all the things that it is much harder to know about, and understand, from somewhere as remote as NZ.

So can a Kiwi passionately support Everton the team? Yes, absolutely. Can they passionately support Everton the club? That's where I'm not so sure.

I would definitely recommend that any Kiwi football fan with an allegiance to an English team gets over there and finds out for themselves though. Just be prepared to come away from the experience with a slightly altered point of view, that's all.

terminator_x2010-05-12 20:36:55

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Buffon II wrote:
simon_hampton wrote:
And most supporters are bandwagoners in NZ, if you started supporting them when a team went on a run then isn't that bandwagoning as well?? And isn't that how a lot people who don't live near the club start supporting? So yeah, what seperates them is if you can stick with the team. So a lot will be bandwagoners at first (like me most will say).


I wasn't a bandwagoner when i started supporting Arsenal.
 
 
That's brilliant. But point out where I said everyone in my post.
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Hampster - the problem is that since your decision has been conscious and so overthought, you may not develop the passion that you hoped to find for a team.

I have tried like hell to pick up a team from different leagues, but it's very hard to develop that feeling out of nothing

but i bid you the best of luck!
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terminator_x wrote:
I love this thread - it just keeps on giving.

The thing I can't get my head around is that in the UK the dividing lines are really black and white. In general people support the club from the town (or area) where they were born. You just don't meet guys from Newcastle who support Man Utd or vice versa. If you meet a guy from Huddersfield it is highly likely that he supports Huddersfield and will look at you like you're a moron for even asking the question (OK, so there are exceptions but they are generally Man Utd supporting t**sers from places like Kent where there isn't a decent football team for miles around).

And yet here in NZ, half a world away, we will choose a team - often for the most spurious reasons - and then declare our undying love for them.

Maybe there is a subtle but important difference between supporting a team and supporting a club?

I don't mean this in any disparaging way at all but it seems to me that most Kiwis support a team, in a literal sense. They adopt a team that they have seen on TV and read about on websites, but most of that stuff is focused on the actual first team squad of a club.

I think of a club, however, in a more holistic sense. A club is much bigger than a team of players. It is the history, the culture, the ground, the fans (good and bad) and sometimes even involves religion or politics. Most importantly, it is a community organisation, something that defines as well as reflects its local community. These are all the things that it is much harder to know about, and understand, from somewhere as remote as NZ.

So can a Kiwi passionately support Everton the team? Yes, absolutely. Can they passionately support Everton the club? That's where I'm not so sure.

I would definitely recommend that any Kiwi football fan with an allegiance to an English team gets over there and finds out for themselves though. Just be prepared to come away from the experience with a slightly altered point of view, that's all.



do you think people that live outside of wellington and have no relation to wellington but still support the phoenix shouldnt?
just asking
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That is a bit different. other side of the world vs a couple of hours drive.

Allegedly

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you guys need to drive through south auckland and yell out our car window to every polynesian you see that this isnt Compton.
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UberGunner wrote:
you guys need to drive through south auckland and yell out our car window to every polynesian you see that this isnt Compton.
 
Not sure that's entirely relevant, unless of course you're comparing being a NZ Arsenal/ManU/Chelsea fan to being a blind follower of fashion and a poor, watered down imitation of the real thing. 
 
Although, to be honest, the whole "Boys from the Hood" thing in South Auckland is something I find quite sad as well.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jazcobar wrote:
   do you think people that live outside of wellington and have no relation to wellington but still support the phoenix shouldnt?
just asking
 
Different situation. The Phoenix are the only professional football club in the country.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
Jazcobar wrote:
   do you think people that live outside of wellington and have no relation to wellington but still support the phoenix shouldnt?
just asking
 
Different situation. The Phoenix are the only professional football club in the country.


So? What's wrong with supporting an amateur club?

Three for me, and two for them.

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Nothing at all, Buff. Nothing at all.  As we are both members of amateur clubs, I think we'd agree that people should be throwing thewir support behind their local club, amateur or professional.
 
I was merely pointing out that if someone chooses to support a professional team that plays at the highest level, the Phoenix is the only show in town.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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UberGunner wrote:
you guys need to drive through south auckland and yell out our car window to every polynesian you see that this isnt Compton.



1) How is this relevant? Is this supposed to be an analogy for NZ supporters of EPL teams?

2). Because "every" south Auckland Polynesian is in a gang? Bit racist

3). There are f**kloads of Samoan and Tongan gangsters in LA and Auckland has had its own Polynesian gangs (King Cobras) for well over 30 years.



Anyway, I agree with people that it is difficult for someone born over here to grasp a clubs "mentality". Thats why I support Celtic, because its the only UK  team I can feel passionate about due to politics and history. Also my family comes from the Shetland Islands and im not even sure they have cameras over there so quite hard to support.  My first choice of team would always be the one that is local (and based on what my family supported) but I live in NZ so this is not applicable for SPL/EPL teams (although i dont support any EPL team)
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Tegal wrote:
That is a bit different. other side of the world vs a couple of hours drive.[/QUOTE]
 
its not different at all, if you have no connection to wellington and havnt been to a game them they dont have a "feel" for the club and shouldnt support it...by your logic.
 
Jag wrote:
[QUOTE=Jazcobar]   do you think people that live outside of wellington and have no relation to wellington but still support the phoenix shouldnt?
just asking
 
Different situation. The Phoenix are the only professional football club in the country.
 
proffesional football has only been around for a short time in new zealand...alot of people would have started supporting these clubs they have no link to when they had no local pro football team to support.
 
i statred supporting 7th place Liverpool before the phoenix existed, and i refuse to support Auckland based franchises. auckland is no more local than merseyside to me
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Jazcobar wrote:
Tegal wrote:
That is a bit different. other side of the world vs a couple of hours drive.[/QUOTE]
 
its not different at all, if you have no connection to wellington and havnt been to a game them they dont have a "feel" for the club and shouldnt support it...by your logic.
 
Jag wrote:
[QUOTE=Jazcobar]   do you think people that live outside of wellington and have no relation to wellington but still support the phoenix shouldnt?
just asking
 
Different situation. The Phoenix are the only professional football club in the country.
 
proffesional football has only been around for a short time in new zealand...alot of people would have started supporting these clubs they have no link to when they had no local pro football team to support.
 
i statred supporting 7th place 7th place 7th place Liverpool before the phoenix existed, and i refuse to support Auckland based franchises. auckland is no more local than merseyside to me
 
So which part of New Zealand is 14,000 miles from Auckland then?
 
When professional football started isn't relevant to the question I was answering. Which was there there is only one professional football club playing in this country so people from outside Wellington, whether you like it or not, surely have more more of a connection with them.
 
As I've said previously, I actually couldn't give a toss who anybody supports or how "passionately" they claim to support them.
 
Jag2010-05-13 15:58:21

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Look, it's simple:
 
If you have been curled up in the foetal position sobbing for the last hour after hearing the news that the Phoenix have signed Dylan Macallister then you are a die-hard, passionate Nix fan.
 
If you haven't been, then obviously you are not.
 

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terminator_x wrote:
Look, it's simple:
 
If you have been curled up in the foetal position sobbing for the last hour after hearing the news that the Phoenix have signed Dylan Macallister then you are a die-hard, passionate Nix fan.
 
If you haven't been, then obviously you are not.
 
 
Beautifully put, T-X.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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who is Dylan Macallister then?
 
f**k it, i will google him
Whitehartlane2010-05-13 16:04:35
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Whitehartlane wrote:
who is Dylan Macallister then?
 
 
Well put WHL

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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oh dear, i just googled him and he has all the makings of a goat herding journeyman who has had more clubs than Greg Norman
 
Is the attraction that he is a 6 foot-4 striker?
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Jag wrote:
Jazcobar wrote:
Tegal wrote:
That is a bit different. other side of the world vs a couple of hours drive.[/QUOTE]
 
its not different at all, if you have no connection to wellington and havnt been to a game them they dont have a "feel" for the club and shouldnt support it...by your logic.
 
Jag wrote:
[QUOTE=Jazcobar]   do you think people that live outside of wellington and have no relation to wellington but still support the phoenix shouldnt?
just asking
 
Different situation. The Phoenix are the only professional football club in the country.
 
proffesional football has only been around for a short time in new zealand...alot of people would have started supporting these clubs they have no link to when they had no local pro football team to support.
 
i statred supporting 7th place 7th place 7th place 7th place Liverpool before the phoenix existed, and i refuse to support Auckland based franchises. auckland is no more local than merseyside to me
 
So which part of New Zealand is 14,000 miles from Auckland then?
 
When professional football started isn't relevant to the question I was answering. Which was there there is only one professional football club playing in this country so people from outside Wellington, whether you like it or not, surely have more more of a connection with them.
 
As I've said previously, I actually couldn't give a toss who anybody supports or how "passionately" they claim to support them.
 
 
cool
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Jazcobar wrote:
Jag wrote:
Jazcobar wrote:
Tegal wrote:
That is a bit different. other side of the world vs a couple of hours drive.[/QUOTE]
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its not different at all, if you have no connection to wellington and havnt been to a game them they dont have a "feel" for the club and shouldnt support it...by your logic.

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Jag wrote:
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Arsenal wrote:
Jazcobar wrote:
Jag wrote:
Jazcobar wrote:
Tegal wrote:
That is a bit different. other side of the world vs a couple of hours drive.[/QUOTE]
 

its not different at all, if you have no connection to wellington and havnt been to a game them they dont have a "feel" for the club and shouldnt support it...by your logic.

 

Jag wrote:
[QUOTE=Jazcobar]   do you think people that live outside of wellington and have no relation to wellington but still support the phoenix shouldnt?just asking

 

Different situation. The Phoenix are the only professional football club in the country.

 

proffesional football has only been around for a short time in new zealand...alot of people would have started supporting these clubs they have no link to when they had no local pro football team to support.

 

i statred supporting 7th place 7th place 7th place 7th place 7th place 7th place Liverpool before the phoenix existed, and i refuse to support Auckland based franchises. auckland is no more local than merseyside to me

 

So which part of New Zealand is 14,000 miles from Auckland then?

 

When professional football started isn't relevant to the question I was answering. Which was there there is only one professional football club playing in this country so people from outside Wellington, whether you like it or not, surely have more more of a connection with them.

 

As I've said previously, I actually couldn't give a toss who anybody supports or how "passionately" they claim to support them.

 

 

cool


story


bro

Three for me, and two for them.

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Whitehartlane wrote:
oh dear, i just googled him and he has all the makings of a goat herding journeyman who has had more clubs than Greg Norman
 
Is the attraction that he is a 6 foot-4 striker?
 
Let's keep our D-Mac angst in the D-Mac thread please.
 
This thread is for providing Hamster with terrible advice and winding up supporters of EPL teams.
 
 
terminator_x2010-05-13 17:01:59

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I think more of us should throw our support behind our local teams. Of course everyone here (I assume) is a hard core Nix supporter, but we should all get behind our local NZFC team. That is our football and we should really get in there and own it. Create our own football culture. It sounds like in the olden days more people did, according to Mr Herbert's book. Let's bring that back. First of all, Sky needs to start broadcasting some games, to make it easier to get to know the players and the teams.
 
Of course I'm a hypocrite, I've never been to a NZFC game. But I live in Thames. What is your excuse?
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Footpaul wrote:
I think more of us should throw our support behind our local teams. Of course everyone here (I assume) is a hard core Nix supporter, but we should all get behind our local NZFC team. That is our football and we should really get in there and own it. Create our own football culture. It sounds like in the olden days more people did, according to Mr Herbert's book. Let's bring that back. First of all, Sky needs to start broadcasting some games, to make it easier to get to know the players and the teams.
 
Of course I'm a hypocrite, I've never been to a NZFC game. But I live in Thames. What is your excuse?
 
what the f**k is a NZFC???
 
 
 
 
 
i kid i kid....
 
i will however take that advice next season..
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Footpaul wrote:
I think more of us should throw our support behind our local teams. Of course everyone here�(I assume) is a hard core Nix supporter, but we should all get behind our local NZFC team. That is our football and we should really get in there and own it. Create our own football culture. It sounds like in the olden days more people did, according to Mr Herbert's book. Let's bring that back. First of all, Sky needs to start broadcasting some games,�to make�it easier to�get to know the players and the teams.
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Of course I'm a hypocrite, I've never been to a NZFC game. But I live in Thames. What is your excuse?


Supported YHM, but having shifted to the Waikato, (the province I hated the most growing up), I can't bring myself to go to a Waikato FC game (was away for the match against YoungHeart.
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I started supporting the Tigres I saw Geovanni play for Hull and thought he was the man. He scored some amazing goals in that first season. Turns out he's a pretty average player at best. Still a passionaite Tigres fan, even though we lose nearly every game. Funnily, after deciding to support the Tigres, I found out that i have quite alot of family history in Hull. Also support Coventry, because my Dad supports them, and Sc**thorpe (where my dad was born.) And of course the NIX.
 
Oh and btw ...
 
 Please please please not Chelsea.
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Knowing that their nickname is actually "The Tigers" might help you in your worship of Hull.

No need to thank me.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Footpaul wrote:
I think more of us should throw our support behind our local teams. Of course everyone here�(I assume) is a hard core Nix supporter, but we should all get behind our local NZFC team. That is our football and we should really get in there and own it. Create our own football culture. It sounds like in the olden days more people did, according to Mr Herbert's book. Let's bring that back. First of all, Sky needs to start broadcasting some games,�to make�it easier to�get to know the players and the teams.
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Of course I'm a hypocrite, I've never been to a NZFC game. But I live in Thames. What is your excuse?


Can't be @rsed.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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That f**k's me off. People from NZ who have an undying love for Chelsea/7th place Liverpool/Man Utd/Arse/etc. but can't be arsed making a f**king 10 minute drive to watch an actual local team, weather it be The Phoenix or there NZFC side...
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Mr_Incredible wrote:
That f**k's me off. People from NZ who have an undying love for Chelsea/7th place 7th place Liverpool/Man Utd/Arse/etc. but can't be arsed making a f**king 10 minute drive to watch an actual local team, weather it be The Phoenix or there NZFC side...
 
i often make the 6 hour drive to see the nix but to be honest i couldnt tell you when and where waikato fc play. theres little to no advertising or anything. watching them would be something i may enjoy doing and will look into it though
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I'm a bit stuck NZFC-wise. As I lived in Wellington for 10 years after coming to this fine country, I'm a Team Wellington follower. I have to resort to going to see them when they play up here. I have also made the trip to watch AC, Ytak and even Waikato on occasions though.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Downey26 wrote:
Mr_Incredible wrote:
That f**k's me off. People from NZ who have an undying love for Chelsea/7th place 7th place 7th place 7th place Liverpool/Man Utd/Arse/etc. but can't be arsed making a f**king 10 minute drive to watch an actual local team, weather it be The Phoenix or there NZFC side...

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i often make the 6 hour drive to see the nix but to be honest i couldnt tell you when and where waikato fc play. theres little to no advertising or anything. watching them would be something i may enjoy doing and will look into it though


They play at Ngaruawahia. Can't tell you when because it is offseason aitkenmike2010-05-14 10:36:18
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mr_Incredible wrote:
That f**k's me off. People from NZ who have an undying love for Chelsea/7th place 7th place Liverpool/Man Utd/Arse/etc. but can't be arsed making a f**king 10 minute drive to watch an actual local team, weather it be The Phoenix or there NZFC side...
 
Maybe people don't share your passion for the game.
 
I can't be bothered with TW because I support the Nix.  When the A league finished i took the kids to see TW in the semi-final at Newtown.  it was enjoyable but if i had to choose between one then Nix wins hands down.
 
If I ever did decide to chose to support a local club it will be because one/both of my progeny will be playing in a senior team.  Currently Junior junior is grade 10 so that's a few years off yet.
 
My time is my own and i chose to devote a fair chunk of it to football (@ junior level, the nix, YF and following my Engris teams) - but not all of it.
 
For the record I started following Spurs from 10 Feb 1973, Toon a few years later (no precise date) and Nix on 28 Sep 2008.
 
Nix is 3rd in my line but the one I spend the most money on.
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I love how when  you quote it says 7th place 7th place Liverpool. Mr_Incredible2010-05-14 11:49:25
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mr_Incredible wrote:
I love how when  you quote it says 7th place 7th place 7th place Liverpool.
 
Like this?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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