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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

i consider myself a fan of LFC despite having no connections to Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Liverpool. every goal torres scores has me jumping on the couch in celebration and every loss ruins my week. im as passionate as any throughbreed scouser when it comes to supporting the club. Stop focusing on what the board rooms are trying to do, thats the nature of proffesional sport, at the end of the day its all about what happens on the pitch

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Have you ever been to Perennial strugglers Liverpool? It's not nice. They eat their own babies there.

Basically, you've been brainwashed. Consider this an intervention.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Downey26 wrote:

so im from hamilton, never lived in wellington so i guess i better stop supporting the nix huh?

what a load of garbage

Slightly different situation with the Nix being the only A-League team in the country (I don't seriously expect you to get all your football kicks from Waikato FC - that seems a little harsh).

But, yeah, as soon as there is an A-League franchise up your way then you are goneburgers from Planet Nix I'm afraid.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

Downey26 wrote:

so im from hamilton, never lived in wellington so i guess i better stop supporting the nix huh?

what a load of garbage

Slightly different situation with the Nix being the only A-League team in the country (I don't seriously expect you to get all your football kicks from Waikato FC - that seems a little harsh).

But, yeah, as soon as there is an A-League franchise up your way then you are goneburgers from Planet Nix I'm afraid.

Got any Wellingtonian heritage?

(maybe the strange uncle that the family doesn't like to talk about)

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

Downey26 wrote:

so im from hamilton, never lived in wellington so i guess i better stop supporting the nix huh?

what a load of garbage

Slightly different situation with the Nix being the only A-League team in the country (I don't seriously expect you to get all your football kicks from Waikato FC - that seems a little harsh).

But, yeah, as soon as there is an A-League franchise up your way then you are goneburgers from Planet Nix I'm afraid.

Who are you to dictate who people can and cannot support?

Three for me, and two for them.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

the thing is before the nix i didnt have a profesional team to support that i did have links to,except i suppose the knights and kingz, but i refuse to support any auckland team.
so what was i supposed to do, not support a team because i have no geographical links...thats just not football

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

terminator_x wrote:

Downey26 wrote:

so im from hamilton, never lived in wellington so i guess i better stop supporting the nix huh?

what a load of garbage

Slightly different situation with the Nix being the only A-League team in the country (I don't seriously expect you to get all your football kicks from Waikato FC - that seems a little harsh).

But, yeah, as soon as there is an A-League franchise up your way then you are goneburgers from Planet Nix I'm afraid.

Who are you to dictate who people can and cannot support?

Reading T-X's comments in this tread make me laugh. What a load of f*cking garbage.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

Who are you to dictate who people can and cannot support?

Someone who cares. If I can save just one young Kiwi from slavishly following the pack and embarassing himself by "supporting" a team from a town on the other side of the world that he's never been to and knows nothing about then I will.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I notice that the only negative feedback I've had so far is from customers of Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Liverpool. No surprises there then...

terminator_x2010-05-07 16:31:15

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

I notice that the only negative feedback I've had so far is from customers of Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Liverpool. No surprises there then...

I notice that all your posts make you out to be a total c**t. No surprises there then...

Three for me, and two for them.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

also this one time i met a hot scouse chick....
assuming all scouse woman look like her, then scousers>>>>>you

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Lighten up boys. Some of you are not handling this well and will not be getting any kudos from me.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Jazcobar wrote:

also this one time i met a hot scouse chick....
assuming all scouse woman look like her, then scousers>>>>>you

errmm...

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

Lighten up boys. Some of you are not handling this well and will not be getting any kudos from me.

Uh oh. Looks like i won't be receiving validation from some no mark on a football forum.

Three for me, and two for them.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Buffon,

Read the forum rules, 5,7 & 9.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

So i'm not allowed to support Ipswich because i've never been further north than Port Douglas? You can support whoever you like, but reserve the right to deride as glory hunters any fan of Perennial strugglers Liverpool that started in the 80's Man Utd any time from the late 90's and Chelsea from the 2000's.

I'll excuse the Arsenal supporters, as when have they ever won anything?

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

This thread is full of stupid.

Hampster, stick with the Phoenix then you don't need to be this stupid.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

aitkenmike wrote:

terminator_x wrote:

I notice that the only negative feedback I've had so far is from customers of Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Liverpool. No surprises there then...

So i'm not allowed to support Ipswich because i've never been further north than Port Douglas? You can support whoever you like, but reserve the right to deride as glory hunters any fan of Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Liverpool that started in the 80's Man Utd any time from the late 90's and Chelsea from the 2000's.

I'll excuse the Arsenal supporters, as when have they ever won anything?

Full list of Arsenal honours from Arsenal.com

Club Honours

League Champions (13)
2004, 2002, 1998, 1991, 1989, 1971, 1953, 1948, 1938, 1935, 1934, 1933, 1931.

FA Cup Winners (10)
2005 Beat Manchester Utd 5-4 on penalties (after 0-0 draw)
2003 Beat Southampton 1-0
2002 Beat Chelsea 2-0
1998 Beat Newcastle United 2-0
1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
1979 Beat Manchester United 3-2
1971 Beat Perennial strugglers Liverpool 2-1
1950 Beat Perennial strugglers Liverpool 2-0
1936 Beat Sheffield United 1-0
1930 Beat Huddersfield Town 2-0

League Cup Winners (2)
1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
1987 Beat Perennial strugglers Liverpool 2-1

Charity/Community Shield Winners (11+1 shared)
2004 Beat Manchester United 3-1
2002 Beat Perennial strugglers Liverpool 1-0
1999 Beat Manchester United 2-1
1998 Beat Manchester United 3-0
1991 Drew with Tottenham Hotspur 0-0 (shared)
1953 Beat Blackpool 3-1
1948 Beat Manchester United 4-3
1938 Beat Preston North End 2-1
1934 Beat Manchester City 4-0
1933 Beat Everton 3-0
1931 Beat West Bromwich Albion 1-0
1930 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1

European Fairs Cup Winners
1970 Beat Anderlecht 4-3 on aggregate

European Cup Winners Cup Winners
1994 Beat Parma 1-0

FA Youth Cup Winners (7)
2009 Beat Perennial strugglers Liverpool 6-2 on aggregate
2001 Beat Blackburn Rovers 6-3 on aggregate
2000 Beat Coventry City 5-1 on aggregate
1994 Beat Millwall 5-3 on aggregate
1988 Beat Doncaster Rovers 6-1 on aggregate
1971 Beat Cardiff City 2-0 on aggregate
1966 Beat Sunderland 5-3 on aggregate

Three for me, and two for them.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hampster, whatever you chose, don't chose West Ham because it is too close to your surname and is too LOL material for the others. Not good for banter and makes you look like a dork. That is one club you should be put off from, I think.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Just support spurs, they have fans coming out of the woodwork from all over.... they won't even notice you're new.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Well what can I say?

It was Friday afternoon, I was bored, I was trolling. I apologise, just support whoever you like.

Can't believe my Diego's Son reference never got picked up though.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I liked it, but only picked up on it on the second reading.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I got it but didn't want to show how clever I am.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

Well what can I say?It was Friday afternoon, I was bored, I was trolling. I apologise, just support whoever you like.Can't believe my Diego's Son reference never got picked up though.

missed the diego ref

but as for trolling - buffon is too prone to biting at any bait ... throw him back

and buffon when you can use wit instead of just random expletives you might add a bit more to this board

it's not just about the rules- i'd guess it's water off a duck's back to Termy (though, sooner or later one of the mods is going to lose patience)

it's also about posts that are worth reading

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

I got it but didn't want to show how cleverï¿½I am.

true, you never know when the 'cleverness police' might pounce

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Whatever. I was standing up for myself. If i broke any rules doing that so what.

Three for me, and two for them.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

i have (genuine) faith that you have the intelligence to do so without simply name-calling

Termy is smart-arse

but i reckon you could tangle with him (and others) by actually arguing the point rather than just dragging out words that start with 'c' or 'f'in w'

feel free to prove me right (win-win i reckon!)

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

hold up...this place has rules?

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Jazcobar wrote:

terminator_x wrote:

The short answer is don't do it.

By all means enjoy watching the EPL from an objective perspective but you shouldn't support a team unless you were either born there or lived there. And even then you need to have lived there for long enough that you developed a true understanding of (and connection with) the place.

James Dean makes a good point. How big a dick will you feel if you pick, for instance, West Ham, only to go there and discover that all West ham fans are actually a bunch of gobby Kray twin wannabe wide-boys who will shake your hand while nicking your wallet with the other. Plus, if you innocently wander anywhere else in London in your West Ham shirt you will get a good kicking and when you open your month to plead for mercy your accent will only make things worse as you are instantly identified as the day-tripping fake that you really are.

The only exceptions to this rule are Manchester United, Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and more recently, Manchester City. These clubs are now so divorced from their communities and so shamelessly commercial that it actually makes no difference where you come from if you want to support them. In fact, these clubs openly have a global agenda and welcome new "customers" from around the world (can't really call them fans though).

Of course, the end outcome of supporting one of these clubs is the same - you still end up looking like a tit. After all, you are really only supporting a soul-less corporation. You might as well buy a Telecom scarf and wave that above your head.

This is why we should all be grateful to have the Wellington Phoenix here. It's ours.

I thought that too until I went to Perennial strugglers Liverpool

Normo's coming home

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Firm up your choice over time. Best bet.

Fer me sins I chose Arsenal at primary school in the 80s cos everyone hated the way they played. Plus I was able to say 'Arse' around Mum and Dad without getting in bother.

I support Manly cos everyone hates them, they have strong Kiwi connections and my Dad was a supporter.

I support Hearts in Scotland despite finding out they have a Royalist section that can be a pain (I'm fer the the NZ Republic!). Until last month I was a Edinburgh resident of 4 years. Also a Manc Scum supporting pal of mine followed H*bs in Edinburgh so I had to pick their rival!!

I follow teams in just about every sport/league on earth and there is always a thought out line of reasoning (can be very ambiguous!) on why I picked that side.

And you stick with it. Unlike a pal of mine who supported the Scouse in the 80s and switched to ManUre in the mid 90s. Git.

How old is Leggy? Is he 12 or 72?

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Jazcobar wrote:

No you are not. Until you are spending a large portion of your income* following the team around the country, spending hours on motorways, eating dinners at services, wasting all your holidays getting to midweek games at the other end of the country you are not as passionate. There is a massive difference between watching a game on TV and spending ï¿½150 and 16 hours going to watch it live.

* Please feel free to add your own "scousers have no income" style gag here.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

chocnut wrote:

kiwi pie wrote:

Just pick the winningest team, and go for them.

I wish I had.

Take that back, you glory hunt in the A-League.

lol I've been following Melbourne since day dot. The only reason we didn't come last that first year was because the Knights were in the comp.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Frankie Mac wrote:

Jazcobar wrote:

i consider myself a fan of LFC despite having no connections to Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Liverpool. every goal torres scores has me jumping on the couch in celebration and every loss ruins my week. im as passionate as any throughbreed scouser when it comes to supporting the club. Stop focusing on what the board rooms are trying to do, thats the nature of proffesional sport, at the end of the day its all about what happens on the pitch

* Please feel free to add your own "scousers have no income" style gag here.

As an example, to go into the ballot for the Europa League Final (if they'd made it) Perennial strugglers Liverpool fans had to show air fares and tickets to 8 away European matches. That gave you a chance to get one ticket only, and only in a ballot, not a guaranteed ticket. Remember every one of those games is mid week and probably requires you to take time off work

Normo's coming home

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

But being in NZ doesnt exactly give you the chance to do all that Frankie. Im sure if someone was living in the UK theyd do all the same things.

Its a load of sh*te to say that you can't support a team if you are not from there. Its usually poms who suggest this as well i might add. But no point going on about it,its not like anyones opinion on this is going to change. We passionately support our team,so that opinion isnt going to change just because some Brit says we can't...and well the other side perhaps don't understand,so thats not going to change either.

There is a massive difference between watching a game on TV and spending ï¿½150 and 16 hours going to watch it live.

So if my side came to say Australia,and i spent $1000 going over to see them,by your definition id be more of a fan than those who live in the city,and have more chances to see them live than i do...because i wouldve spent more money to see the side?

Allegedly

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

pasï¿½sionï¿½ate? ï¿½adjective

having, compelled by, or ruled by intense emotion or strong feeling; fervid: a passionate advocate of socialism.

easily aroused to or influenced by sexual desire; ardently sensual.

expressing, showing, or marked by intense or strong feeling; emotional: passionate language.

intense or vehement, as emotions or feelings: passionate grief.

easily moved to anger; quick-tempered; irascible.

These would describe me and others who support an english side whilst watching and supporting them.

Doesnt have to be about where you live,though it can be a reason why you support a side and are passionate about it...but it isnt the only reason.

Tegal2010-05-08 00:17:50

Allegedly

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

But being in NZ doesnt exactly give you the chance to do all that Frankie. Im sure if someone was living in the UK theyd do all the same things.

There is a massive difference between watching a game on TV and spending ï¿½150 and 16 hours going to watch it live.

That is different - it is a one off.

The thing is that it is easy to claim to be a die-hard fan of something when all that entails is occassionally having to get up in the middle of the night to watch them on TV.

The reason that people in the UK talk about how foreign fans are not as passionate (whatever that word actually means in this case) is becuase you feel a loss more when you are wedged, freezing wet into an Inter-City bus seat for 8 hours having sat through an abject performace when the whole thing has cost ï¿½100 compared to having watched it on TV, and you appreciate the win more in the same situation. The highs are higher and the lows are lower when you have made a significant sacrifice to be part of the whole thing.

And the number of people who claim they will go to every game when they get to the UK and then don't due to costs, time, work, etc (and I include me in this group) is very, very high. That is when you realise that compared to hundreds or thousands of others (depending on the size of the club you support) you are in no way a passionate supporter.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Perhaps Die hard is different to passionate?

Die hard being spending every possible penny you have to support your side anywhere etc as you're describing. Passionate being by definition,passionate.

But you got to admit,to say you can't passionately support a team (or as has been said or even just hinted at...that you can't support one at all) just because you aren't from the city,is a little ridiculous.

I admit,it is logictically impossible for someone in NZ to be a die hard fan and follow the side around. But what is being suggested is that you cannot possibly feel any connection to the club,or feel passionate about a club from the other side of the world,this is the point im saying is wrong.

Allegedly

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

But being in NZ doesnt exactly give you the chance to do all that Frankie. Im sure if someone was living in the UK theyd do all the same things.

Of course you can support them, just don't kid yourself that you're as passionate as fans who give up a hell of a lot to suppor ttheir team through thick and thin. For example, how many people who decide to move to the UK would go and live in Manchester so they could watch United every week?

As Frankie says, watching football can be a pretty dispiriting affair...it's expansive, it's hard to get tickets, you have to give up a lot (especially if you wan to watch away or european games) and especially as you get a bit older it means not spending the little free time you get off doind something that your other half probably hates

I only say this because this is exactly how I felt after coming to the UK and going to a few Perennial strugglers Liverpool games.

Normo's coming home

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Just watch as much football as you can somthing will trigger you. for example Big Dunc + Last 5 min goal vs Utd = Evertonian ever since.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

You're a passionate fan when your team loses and it burns in your guts for a week, your family know to avoid mentioning it and your work colleagues know to stay out of your way. Got nothing to do with how much money you spend imo.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

so how passionate of a fan you are depends on how much you spend on your team???

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