http://www.thisisanfield.com/columnists/2008/04/96tears/
RIP
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No hormets response from me, however this is one of the biggest pieces of misinformation spread by the Police Hierarchy, and jumped on by certain tabloids, that it is now taken as fact.
The interim Taylor report stated...
"Were Fans Without Tickets a Major Factor in the Build-Up?
200. It has become a fact of football life that fans do turn up at all-ticket matches without tickets. It is not possible to give an accurate figure or even a reliable estimate of the number without tickets on 15 April. Police estimates varied from about 200 to about 2,000. There were certainly frequent requests for tickets or "spares" during the hours before the build-up. Many of those warned off by the police were seen to return to the area. Some were hanging about on the bridge. Again, however, the police witnesses who most impressed me did not consider the number of ticketless fans to be inordinately large. This accords with two other sources of evidence."
and in the final report ...
"Fans Without Tickets
269. One problem which creates difficulties for the police is the arrival of would-be spectators without tickets at an all-ticket match. Although I found there was not a large body of such fans at Hillsborough there undoubtedly were some."
You have to remember, it was not a ticket-only match, so fans turning up without tickets, but trying to buy one legally should not be an issue.
YNWA
No hormets response from me, however this is one of the biggest pieces of misinformation spread by the Police Hierarchy, and jumped on by certain tabloids, that it is now taken as fact.
The interim Taylor report stated...
"Were Fans Without Tickets a Major Factor in the Build-Up?
200. It has become a fact of football life that fans do turn up at all-ticket matches without tickets. It is not possible to give an accurate figure or even a reliable estimate of the number without tickets on 15 April. Police estimates varied from about 200 to about 2,000. There were certainly frequent requests for tickets or "spares" during the hours before the build-up. Many of those warned off by the police were seen to return to the area. Some were hanging about on the bridge. Again, however, the police witnesses who most impressed me did not consider the number of ticketless fans to be inordinately large. This accords with two other sources of evidence."
and in the final report ...
"Fans Without Tickets
269. One problem which creates difficulties for the police is the arrival of would-be spectators without tickets at an all-ticket match. Although I found there was not a large body of such fans at Hillsborough there undoubtedly were some."
You have to remember, it was not a ticket-only match, so fans turning up without tickets, but trying to buy one legally should not be an issue.
YNWA
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
Three for me, and two for them.
I remember waking up on what was a Sunday morning in 1989 here in New Zealand and hearing reports from Hillsborough on the radio.
A subsequent inquiry found the cause of the crush was overcrowding, and the reason for it was a failure by the Yorkshire Police to adequately control the crowd.
If you haven�t ever read anything about the Hillsborough disaster, I urge you to find one of the numerous websites dedicated to it and spend some time digesting the awful events of that day. It won�t be easy, and you won�t enjoy it, but I guarantee it�ll give you a more rounded view of a disaster that you may only have a passing knowledge of.
Here�s a good place to start� http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/
As you run your eyes down the list of those who lost their lives that day, it�s hard to take it all in. Behind each name there lies a story of a family�s grief at the unexplainable loss of their brother, sister, father, mother, daughter or son.
As you read the accounts of the families who lost a part of them on that April day twenty years ago, I challenge you not to feel a lump in your throat, a chill down your spine, a tear on your cheek. I�ve read them many times, and all three of those things always happen to me.
It was a football match. Only a football match. How on earth � why on earth � did this happen?
The quiet once they let us out.
The smell.
The bus back to the station.
People yelling at us.
The quiet on the train.
Angry voices.
The cup final.
20 years on.
RIP 96.YNWA.
It doesn't matter who you support when it comes to these terrible tragedies. They trancend everything.
"Hillsborough - 20 Years On" will premiere on the History Channel on
Thursday April 16th at 9.30pm and repeated on Friday April 17th 7.30 AM
This special blends personal testimonies with powerful archive to provide a
detailed account of the day, exploring the range of elements that combined
to make Hillsborough the tragedy that it was.
Or for an excellent piece published in the Telegraph recently, by Phil Scraton
http://tinyurl.com/ceo2ag
Hillsborough football stadium disaster: a fight for justice and wounds that never heal
Twenty years after the Hillsborough football stadium disaster, questions remain unanswered and, for the families of the 96 Liverpool fans who died, justice has yet to be done.
At the end of the storm
There's a golden sky
And the sweet silver
Song of a lark.
Justice is still needed.
there has to be accountability
justice for the 96
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Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtRs-3jQmf8&NR=1 (10 mins)
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4NvFIDcdEM&feature=related (6:34)
Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXDeiDiA3R0&feature=related (7:04)
Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEmWY5CyL5Q&feature=related (7:33)
Part 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE6omI9ki3o&feature=related (5:18)
Part 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_YylJznzhA&feature=related (8:48)
Part 7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBl4Ww_m7E&feature=related (4:56)
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/2346374/Secret-Hillsborough-papers-to-be-released
A step in the right direction at least.
Quite ill informed comment. That said, some ofthe notes on the numbers of ticketless are worth looking at. I for one had that at the back of my mind for some time.
dairyflat2009-04-21 08:57:48
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
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http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/taylor.shtm might say...
dairyflat2009-04-21 11:43:17
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
Fans Without Tickets
269. One problem which creates difficulties for the police is the arrival of would-be spectators without
tickets at an all-ticket match. Although I found there was not a large body of such fans at Hillsborough there
undoubtedly were some. At other matches the numbers have not only been large; they have been determined
to gain entrance by one means or another. If they could not acquire tickets at the ground they have created so
much trouble that the police have judged it best to let them in. Sometimes this has been for payment; on
occasions, even free. The rationale has been that it is better to have troublemakers inside the ground where
they can be monitored than roaming round the town at large. Obviously, the practice of admitting fans
without tickets has a bad knock-on effect. Bands of fans unable to get tickets believe that if they turn up and
create sufficient clamour the police will admit them.
Steven Cohen is ill-informed. 6 to 8 thousand ticket less fans. That is just ridiculous.
Most arsenal fans have read 'fever pitch' by nick hornby - great read, very funny and should strike a chord with most football fans, gooners or otherwise.
Steven Cohen is ill-informed. 6 to 8 thousand ticket less fans. That is just ridiculous.
Steven Cohen is ill-informed. 6 to 8 thousand ticket less fans. That is just ridiculous.