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Saw tweets that under Klopp Liverpool have spent 380m on transfers in the last 2 years, is that stat actually true?

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paulm wrote:

Saw tweets that under Klopp Liverpool have spent 380m on transfers in the last 2 years, is that stat actually true?

Doesn't sound right to me (in pounds below - signings and sales under Klopp). Doesn't include any joining fees.

Nets spend of minus 3.75m

IN

Grujic - 5.1m

Grabara - 0.3m

Mane - 30.0m

Karius - 4.7m

Klavan - 4.2m

Wijnaldum - 25.0m

Salah - 34.0m

Robertson - 8.0m

Ox - 35.0m

VvD - 75.0m

Frees In - George, Matip, Manniger, Solanke (Solanke commanded a development fee of about 3m to Chelsea I think)

$221.3m

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Rossiter - 0.25m

Canos - 2.5m

Skrtel - 3.5m

Ibe - 15.0m

Allen - 13.0m

Smith - 3.0m

Benteke - 27.0m

Alberto - 4.3m

Ilori - 2.5m

Wisdom - 2.0m

Lucas - 5.0m

Stewart - 7.0m

Sakho - 26.0m

Coutinho - 142.0m

Frees/Released - Texiera, Sinclair, Balotelli, Brannagan (actually 1 pound fee), Enrique, Cleary, McLaughlin, Yesil, Kolo Toure, Manniger

$225.05m

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LeighboNZ wrote:

paulm wrote:

Saw tweets that under Klopp Liverpool have spent 380m on transfers in the last 2 years, is that stat actually true?

Doesn't sound right to me (in pounds below - signings and sales under Klopp). Doesn't include any joining fees.

Nets spend of minus 3.75m

IN

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$221.3m

OUT

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$225.05m

I think those who came up with the original tweet included the spend from the beginning of the 15/16 season. Klopp started in October, but Benteke, Clyne and Firmino were bought before his arrival (with Sterling money). Three seasons of spending totals $370 million ish..

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Klopp winning the net spend trophy at least. 

Gotta do something, the hugs-his-players trophy doesn't seem to be satisfying the fans as much as it used to. 

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paulm wrote:

Klopp winning the net spend trophy at least. 

Gotta do something, the hugs-his-players trophy doesn't seem to be satisfying the fans as much as it used to. 

Totally agree - not sure if his hands are tied by the board OR it's his own choice.

Shopping in January isn't always that smart given inflated prices but needs must at the moment.

We're 3 players away from a decent spine - not sure why we are dragging our heels and in fact, two players could do it.

A goalkeeper and a striker - firmino could then drop into the Coutinho role and do a great job there - he has the vision and creativity to succeed.

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Many swearwords. Many. Many. Many.

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Good grief, that was not a penalty! Even I could see that. In the A League against a Nix team, it would have been given but no where else.

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I don't understand the hysteria, both are clear penalties.

First is played by Lovren making Kane onside who then gets taken out, The Lamela is full on kicked, Nani got sent off for less. Both go down easy but the laws don't care about that.

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No doubts at all 2nd one was a peno.

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20 Legend wrote:

I don't understand the hysteria, both are clear penalties.

First is played by Lovren making Kane onside who then gets taken out, The Lamela is full on kicked, Nani got sent off for less. Both go down easy but the laws don't care about that.

Penalty 1 - you need to consider is Lovren deliberately played the ball. If he didn't, then Kane is offside. Additionally, the fact that Kane was offside has to be considered - if he wasn't there and Lovren is deemed to play the ball, was the prescience of the offside player part of his decision.

Penalty 2 - even if there was contact (and if there was, it was minimal) Lamela is offisde.

Not exactly clear penalties - Fergie/Maureen would have had a stroke had it happened against Utd.

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Lovren quite obviously played at the ball deliberately, but you raise an interesting point about the reason why - Kane was offside, and Kane's presence was the reason he played at it, else he would've let it run through. Shouldn't really be a peno in that sense. 

Lamela was onside. It was close, but it was onside. Very clear penalty in my opinion. 

Regardless of all that, I think the biggest controversial take from this is the comment in the discussion between ref/lino after the first one. They asked if anything could be seen from the tv. That exposes what I've long suspected - they look at the screen and make decisions from it, and they also have someone looking at a screen offering advice from off-pitch in the very short period after the decision. It always looked like they were influenced by this sort of thing - it's so common to see the ref repeatedly looking at the big screen while he's deciding if something is no card/yellow card/red card etc. They use what they can, and I've never really begrudged them for it. But now you've got the FA pretending that's not the case - releasing a false statement, removing all the footage of the discussion between ref/lino from youtube, twitter etc. It's pretty poor, they need to just fess up. 

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paulm wrote:

Lovren quite obviously played at the ball deliberately, but you raise an interesting point about the reason why - Kane was offside, and Kane's presence was the reason he played at it, else he would've let it run through. Shouldn't really be a peno in that sense. 

Lamela was onside. It was close, but it was onside. Very clear penalty in my opinion. 

Regardless of all that, I think the biggest controversial take from this is the comment in the discussion between ref/lino after the first one. They asked if anything could be seen from the tv. That exposes what I've long suspected - they look at the screen and make decisions from it, and they also have someone looking at a screen offering advice from off-pitch in the very short period after the decision. It always looked like they were influenced by this sort of thing - it's so common to see the ref repeatedly looking at the big screen while he's deciding if something is no card/yellow card/red card etc. They use what they can, and I've never really begrudged them for it. But now you've got the FA pretending that's not the case - releasing a false statement, removing all the footage of the discussion between ref/lino from youtube, twitter etc. It's pretty poor, they need to just fess up. 

Did you also see the video of the linesman's fist pump?

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I thought Lamela was offside, by a toe. In that situation an error by the linesman is completely understandable and forgivable.

In the first goal, under the laws of the game, Kane wasn't interfering with play, even if he caused Lovren to play at the ball. The right decision was made under the rules, but I think the rules need looking at. I don't think there's any doubt Lovren deliberately played the ball.

In both challenges the contact made was completely worthy of a pen.

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. That's insane. Even if he was biased (which no ref in the BPL is), why would he be dumb enough to demonstrate that in front of tens of thousands of people. Don't be ridiculous.

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Nelfoos wrote:

I thought Lamela was offside, by a toe. In that situation an error by the linesman is completely understandable and forgivable.

In the first goal, under the laws of the game, Kane wasn't interfering with play, even if he caused Lovren to play at the ball. The right decision was made under the rules, but I think the rules need looking at. I don't think there's any doubt Lovren deliberately played the ball.

In both challenges the contact made was completely worthy of a pen.

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. That's insane. Even if he was biased (which no ref in the BPL is), why would he be dumb enough to demonstrate that in front of tens of thousands of people. Don't be ridiculous.

What was that?

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

I thought Lamela was offside, by a toe. In that situation an error by the linesman is completely understandable and forgivable.

In the first goal, under the laws of the game, Kane wasn't interfering with play, even if he caused Lovren to play at the ball. The right decision was made under the rules, but I think the rules need looking at. I don't think there's any doubt Lovren deliberately played the ball.

In both challenges the contact made was completely worthy of a pen.

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. That's insane. Even if he was biased (which no ref in the BPL is), why would he be dumb enough to demonstrate that in front of tens of thousands of people. Don't be ridiculous.

What was that?

A coincidence? One of the least convincing fist pumps in history? Maybe he was happy his decision was upheld?

You choose, if you're that willing to clutch at straws. He certainly isn't celebrating for the team that received the decision, I'd bet you anything under the sun on that,

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Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

I thought Lamela was offside, by a toe. In that situation an error by the linesman is completely understandable and forgivable.

In the first goal, under the laws of the game, Kane wasn't interfering with play, even if he caused Lovren to play at the ball. The right decision was made under the rules, but I think the rules need looking at. I don't think there's any doubt Lovren deliberately played the ball.

In both challenges the contact made was completely worthy of a pen.

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. That's insane. Even if he was biased (which no ref in the BPL is), why would he be dumb enough to demonstrate that in front of tens of thousands of people. Don't be ridiculous.

What was that?

A coincidence? One of the least convincing fist pumps in history? Maybe he was happy his decision was upheld?

You choose, if you're that willing to clutch at straws. He certainly isn't celebrating for the team that received the decision, I'd bet you anything under the sun on that,

C'mon - he's just given a penalty in the last seconds of a match and right after talking to the ref who goes on his advice, he gets a sneaky fist pump going. Not saying he's celebrating for Spurs but it's a bad look for any official to do that. At any point did I make it out to be anything more than an observation?

Fact is fact and got nothing to do with straw clutching.

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

I thought Lamela was offside, by a toe. In that situation an error by the linesman is completely understandable and forgivable.

In the first goal, under the laws of the game, Kane wasn't interfering with play, even if he caused Lovren to play at the ball. The right decision was made under the rules, but I think the rules need looking at. I don't think there's any doubt Lovren deliberately played the ball.

In both challenges the contact made was completely worthy of a pen.

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. That's insane. Even if he was biased (which no ref in the BPL is), why would he be dumb enough to demonstrate that in front of tens of thousands of people. Don't be ridiculous.

What was that?

A coincidence? One of the least convincing fist pumps in history? Maybe he was happy his decision was upheld?

You choose, if you're that willing to clutch at straws. He certainly isn't celebrating for the team that received the decision, I'd bet you anything under the sun on that,

C'mon - he's just given a penalty in the last seconds of a match and right after talking to the ref who goes on his advice, he gets a sneaky fist pump going. Not saying he's celebrating for Spurs but it's a bad look for any official to do that. At any point did I make it out to be anything more than an observation?

Fact is fact and got nothing to do with straw clutching.

Well the only possible reason it might be relevant is if you're accusing him of bias. You say you aren't doing that, so what was the point of even bringing it up if you agree its a non-issue?

Let the man fist pump all he wants, he made a good decision.

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Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

I thought Lamela was offside, by a toe. In that situation an error by the linesman is completely understandable and forgivable.

In the first goal, under the laws of the game, Kane wasn't interfering with play, even if he caused Lovren to play at the ball. The right decision was made under the rules, but I think the rules need looking at. I don't think there's any doubt Lovren deliberately played the ball.

In both challenges the contact made was completely worthy of a pen.

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. That's insane. Even if he was biased (which no ref in the BPL is), why would he be dumb enough to demonstrate that in front of tens of thousands of people. Don't be ridiculous.

What was that?

A coincidence? One of the least convincing fist pumps in history? Maybe he was happy his decision was upheld?

You choose, if you're that willing to clutch at straws. He certainly isn't celebrating for the team that received the decision, I'd bet you anything under the sun on that,

C'mon - he's just given a penalty in the last seconds of a match and right after talking to the ref who goes on his advice, he gets a sneaky fist pump going. Not saying he's celebrating for Spurs but it's a bad look for any official to do that. At any point did I make it out to be anything more than an observation?

Fact is fact and got nothing to do with straw clutching.

Well the only possible reason it might be relevant is if you're accusing him of bias. You say you aren't doing that, so what was the point of even bringing it up if you agree its a non-issue?

Let the man fist pump all he wants, he made a good decision.

He thought made a good decision - Lamela was offiside.

I can pretty much bring up what I want to - it's a forum for discussion and you tried to tell me uncategorically that there wasn't a fist pump. I enjoy being right.

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

I thought Lamela was offside, by a toe. In that situation an error by the linesman is completely understandable and forgivable.

In the first goal, under the laws of the game, Kane wasn't interfering with play, even if he caused Lovren to play at the ball. The right decision was made under the rules, but I think the rules need looking at. I don't think there's any doubt Lovren deliberately played the ball.

In both challenges the contact made was completely worthy of a pen.

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. That's insane. Even if he was biased (which no ref in the BPL is), why would he be dumb enough to demonstrate that in front of tens of thousands of people. Don't be ridiculous.

What was that?

A coincidence? One of the least convincing fist pumps in history? Maybe he was happy his decision was upheld?

You choose, if you're that willing to clutch at straws. He certainly isn't celebrating for the team that received the decision, I'd bet you anything under the sun on that,

C'mon - he's just given a penalty in the last seconds of a match and right after talking to the ref who goes on his advice, he gets a sneaky fist pump going. Not saying he's celebrating for Spurs but it's a bad look for any official to do that. At any point did I make it out to be anything more than an observation?

Fact is fact and got nothing to do with straw clutching.

Well the only possible reason it might be relevant is if you're accusing him of bias. You say you aren't doing that, so what was the point of even bringing it up if you agree its a non-issue?

Let the man fist pump all he wants, he made a good decision.

He thought made a good decision - Lamela was offiside.

I can pretty much bring up what I want to - it's a forum for discussion and you tried to tell me uncategorically that there wasn't a fist pump. I enjoy being right.

Lamela was borderline. On replays its the difference of a hair. Nothing wrong with a linesman missing that.

You're more than welcome discuss that, but if you don't think it was a celebration you might want to discuss that in an "off topic" thread. I said that it was not a fist pump celebrating the penalty, as you heavily implied.

But keep thinking you won, its about time Liverpool fans got that feeling

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Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

I thought Lamela was offside, by a toe. In that situation an error by the linesman is completely understandable and forgivable.

In the first goal, under the laws of the game, Kane wasn't interfering with play, even if he caused Lovren to play at the ball. The right decision was made under the rules, but I think the rules need looking at. I don't think there's any doubt Lovren deliberately played the ball.

In both challenges the contact made was completely worthy of a pen.

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. That's insane. Even if he was biased (which no ref in the BPL is), why would he be dumb enough to demonstrate that in front of tens of thousands of people. Don't be ridiculous.

What was that?

A coincidence? One of the least convincing fist pumps in history? Maybe he was happy his decision was upheld?

You choose, if you're that willing to clutch at straws. He certainly isn't celebrating for the team that received the decision, I'd bet you anything under the sun on that,

C'mon - he's just given a penalty in the last seconds of a match and right after talking to the ref who goes on his advice, he gets a sneaky fist pump going. Not saying he's celebrating for Spurs but it's a bad look for any official to do that. At any point did I make it out to be anything more than an observation?

Fact is fact and got nothing to do with straw clutching.

Well the only possible reason it might be relevant is if you're accusing him of bias. You say you aren't doing that, so what was the point of even bringing it up if you agree its a non-issue?

Let the man fist pump all he wants, he made a good decision.

He thought made a good decision - Lamela was offiside.

I can pretty much bring up what I want to - it's a forum for discussion and you tried to tell me uncategorically that there wasn't a fist pump. I enjoy being right.

Lamela was borderline. On replays its the difference of a hair. Nothing wrong with a linesman missing that.

You're more than welcome discuss that, but if you don't think it was a celebration you might want to discuss that in an "off topic" thread. I said that it was not a fist pump celebrating the penalty, as you heavily implied.

But keep thinking you won, its about time Liverpool fans got that feeling

Jog on - if United had the same thing happen with either Fergie or Maureen at the helm, them and every fan would be going bananas.

I'm pointing out that (1) Decisions were as wrong as they were right (2) Fist pumping from an official isn't a great idea in such situations.

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

I thought Lamela was offside, by a toe. In that situation an error by the linesman is completely understandable and forgivable.

In the first goal, under the laws of the game, Kane wasn't interfering with play, even if he caused Lovren to play at the ball. The right decision was made under the rules, but I think the rules need looking at. I don't think there's any doubt Lovren deliberately played the ball.

In both challenges the contact made was completely worthy of a pen.

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. That's insane. Even if he was biased (which no ref in the BPL is), why would he be dumb enough to demonstrate that in front of tens of thousands of people. Don't be ridiculous.

What was that?

A coincidence? One of the least convincing fist pumps in history? Maybe he was happy his decision was upheld?

You choose, if you're that willing to clutch at straws. He certainly isn't celebrating for the team that received the decision, I'd bet you anything under the sun on that,

C'mon - he's just given a penalty in the last seconds of a match and right after talking to the ref who goes on his advice, he gets a sneaky fist pump going. Not saying he's celebrating for Spurs but it's a bad look for any official to do that. At any point did I make it out to be anything more than an observation?

Fact is fact and got nothing to do with straw clutching.

Well the only possible reason it might be relevant is if you're accusing him of bias. You say you aren't doing that, so what was the point of even bringing it up if you agree its a non-issue?

Let the man fist pump all he wants, he made a good decision.

He thought made a good decision - Lamela was offiside.

I can pretty much bring up what I want to - it's a forum for discussion and you tried to tell me uncategorically that there wasn't a fist pump. I enjoy being right.

Lamela was borderline. On replays its the difference of a hair. Nothing wrong with a linesman missing that.

You're more than welcome discuss that, but if you don't think it was a celebration you might want to discuss that in an "off topic" thread. I said that it was not a fist pump celebrating the penalty, as you heavily implied.

But keep thinking you won, its about time Liverpool fans got that feeling

Jog on - if United had the same thing happen with either Fergie or Maureen at the helm, them and every fan would be going bananas.

I'm pointing out that (1) Decisions were as wrong as they were right (2) Fist pumping from an official isn't a great idea in such situations.

I guess I'll have to disagree on every point you just made and leave it there then
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Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

I thought Lamela was offside, by a toe. In that situation an error by the linesman is completely understandable and forgivable.

In the first goal, under the laws of the game, Kane wasn't interfering with play, even if he caused Lovren to play at the ball. The right decision was made under the rules, but I think the rules need looking at. I don't think there's any doubt Lovren deliberately played the ball.

In both challenges the contact made was completely worthy of a pen.

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. That's insane. Even if he was biased (which no ref in the BPL is), why would he be dumb enough to demonstrate that in front of tens of thousands of people. Don't be ridiculous.

What was that?

A coincidence? One of the least convincing fist pumps in history? Maybe he was happy his decision was upheld?

You choose, if you're that willing to clutch at straws. He certainly isn't celebrating for the team that received the decision, I'd bet you anything under the sun on that,

C'mon - he's just given a penalty in the last seconds of a match and right after talking to the ref who goes on his advice, he gets a sneaky fist pump going. Not saying he's celebrating for Spurs but it's a bad look for any official to do that. At any point did I make it out to be anything more than an observation?

Fact is fact and got nothing to do with straw clutching.

Well the only possible reason it might be relevant is if you're accusing him of bias. You say you aren't doing that, so what was the point of even bringing it up if you agree its a non-issue?

Let the man fist pump all he wants, he made a good decision.

He thought made a good decision - Lamela was offiside.

I can pretty much bring up what I want to - it's a forum for discussion and you tried to tell me uncategorically that there wasn't a fist pump. I enjoy being right.

Lamela was borderline. On replays its the difference of a hair. Nothing wrong with a linesman missing that.

You're more than welcome discuss that, but if you don't think it was a celebration you might want to discuss that in an "off topic" thread. I said that it was not a fist pump celebrating the penalty, as you heavily implied.

But keep thinking you won, its about time Liverpool fans got that feeling

Jog on - if United had the same thing happen with either Fergie or Maureen at the helm, them and every fan would be going bananas.

I'm pointing out that (1) Decisions were as wrong as they were right (2) Fist pumping from an official isn't a great idea in such situations.

I guess I'll have to disagree on every point you just made and leave it there then

Imagine my surprise

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I'm not going to quote that garble, but a few notes:

Penalty 1 - he absolutely played it deliberately and Kane is not interfering in the game. This is why linesman have to wait for a player to actually get the ball before they flag. This isn't even up for discussion, the referees were 100% correct.

Penalty 2 - Lamela was as tight as you get. That is never going to be called as we play a game by humans. And even so, him being offside didn't really give him an advantage and isn't an excuse. It's also got nothing to do with why the penalty happened. I don't like generalising fans but the Liverpool fan base's response to this has been hilariously embarrassing and ridiculous.

There's a video of (I think) Mike Dean doing a little skip of celebration after correctly allowing an advantage which the team scored from. The job of the referee takes just as much mental effort as the players and they will get involved in the occasion, something they have been working their whole lives to achieve, just as anyone would. It isn't the best look but I'm not going to get offended by it. Again a pretty embarrassing response from Liverpool's fan base (clutching at straws anyone?)

And also, Liverpool's fanbase has this odd idea that Martin Tyler is bias and has a thing for United after his getting excited in response for Martial's superb goal against Liverpool. Now that Martin Tyler also got excited after Liverpool's 2nd goal it's great that this can now be put to bed too.

To recap - scousers should be able to sleep a little better tonight knowing the refs got it right, aren't bias, and neither is Martin Tyler.

=)

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20 Legend wrote:

1)Penalty 1 - he absolutely played it deliberately and Kane is not interfering in the game. This is why linesman have to wait for a player to actually get the ball before they flag. This isn't even up for discussion, the referees were 100% correct.

2)There's a video of (I think) Mike Dean doing a little skip of celebration after correctly allowing an advantage which the team scored from. The job of the referee takes just as much mental effort as the players and they will get involved in the occasion, something they have been working their whole lives to achieve, just as anyone would. It isn't the best look but I'm not going to get offended by it. Again a pretty embarrassing response from Liverpool's fan base (clutching at straws anyone?)

1)The only discussion is that the rule interpretation is terrible. Every normal definition of interfering in play would include a situation where a defender is forced to play the ball by the presence of a (potentially) offside player. Sadly, under the current interpretations this isn't the case, and Kane is 100% onside.

2)Agreed.  Referees aren't robots.

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aitkenmike wrote:

20 Legend wrote:

1)Penalty 1 - he absolutely played it deliberately and Kane is not interfering in the game. This is why linesman have to wait for a player to actually get the ball before they flag. This isn't even up for discussion, the referees were 100% correct.

2)There's a video of (I think) Mike Dean doing a little skip of celebration after correctly allowing an advantage which the team scored from. The job of the referee takes just as much mental effort as the players and they will get involved in the occasion, something they have been working their whole lives to achieve, just as anyone would. It isn't the best look but I'm not going to get offended by it. Again a pretty embarrassing response from Liverpool's fan base (clutching at straws anyone?)

1)The only discussion is that the rule interpretation is terrible. Every normal definition of interfering in play would include a situation where a defender is forced to play the ball by the presence of a (potentially) offside player. Sadly, under the current interpretations this isn't the case, and Kane is 100% onside.

2)Agreed.  Referees aren't robots.

1. Agree 100%

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Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. 

What was that?

A coincidence? One of the least convincing fist pumps in history? Maybe he was happy his decision was upheld?

You choose, if you're that willing to clutch at straws. He certainly isn't celebrating for the team that received the decision, I'd bet you anything under the sun on that,

 

The fact that you were so adamant and arrogant that there was no fist pump, only to indeed admit there was a fist pump and give a possible reason two posts later, is fudgeing hilarious. Nelfools

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ColeWorld wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

The linesman DID NOT fist pump. 

What was that?

A coincidence? One of the least convincing fist pumps in history? Maybe he was happy his decision was upheld?

You choose, if you're that willing to clutch at straws. He certainly isn't celebrating for the team that received the decision, I'd bet you anything under the sun on that,

 

The fact that you were so adamant and arrogant that there was no fist pump, only to indeed admit there was a fist pump and give a possible reason two posts later, is fudgeing hilarious. Nelfools

Haha, Nelfools! Very witty, you've got me there. I don't think it was a fist pump but I can see why it was interpreted that way. I was just giving him more straws to clutch at, given fist pump is about the least likely excuse I can think of.
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Loads of Man Yoo fans with reckons and hot takes.

Must be a Liverpool forum.

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LFC win, United lose.

I think my .gif says it all.

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Good stuff indeed. Two very nice goals this morning.

Apparently VvD went to the home changing room haha! This made me laugh too......

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Salah aye, what a purchase he's been. Has not stopped scoring. 

Possibly EPL player of the year? I reckon. 

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Bobby Firmino ???? 

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paulm wrote:

Salah aye, what a purchase he's been. Has not stopped scoring. 

Possibly EPL player of the year? I reckon. 

How good was the backheel from Firmino to set him up, shows how big a difference a couple of classy touches can make. To be honest I didn't think we were looking too good for most of the first half, in between the two goals Southampton were all over us at times. But that's football, and it's hard to fault two goals and a clean sheet. Bring on Porto!

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paulm wrote:

Salah aye, what a purchase he's been. Has not stopped scoring. 

Possibly EPL player of the year? I reckon. 

I think that KdB will take out player of the season but Salah will push him close.

Really looking forward to seeing Salah, Mane, Firmino and Keita lighting things up next season.

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"Salah, oh Mane, Mane..."

5 - 0 away vs Porto - lovely stuff!

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That was fun to watch! Salah is the quickest to 30 goals for Liverpool in over 100 years.

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paulm wrote:

Salah aye, what a purchase he's been. Has not stopped scoring. 

Possibly EPL player of the year? I reckon. 

I think he should be. 

He's had more impact on this team than De Bruyne at Man City for me. De Bruyne has had a few quiet games, been rotated out here and there as per Pep's policy, he's just not as crucial to the team. If he doesn't do the business, they've had Silva (x2), Sterling, Aguero, Sane, Jesus, Fernandinho, Gundogan and others who have been stepping up all season. 

Firmino has been good and Sane has had patches, but Salah has just been phenomenal in pretty much every game. 

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paulm wrote:

paulm wrote:

Salah aye, what a purchase he's been. Has not stopped scoring. 

Possibly EPL player of the year? I reckon. 

I think he should be. 

He's had more impact on this team than De Bruyne at Man City for me. De Bruyne has had a few quiet games, been rotated out here and there as per Pep's policy, he's just not as crucial to the team. If he doesn't do the business, they've had Silva (x2), Sterling, Aguero, Sane, Jesus, Fernandinho, Gundogan and others who have been stepping up all season. 

Firmino has been good and Sane has had patches, but Salah has just been phenomenal in pretty much every game. 

Hard to argue with that! I think he'd probably need to win the golden boot to sneak ahead of De Bruyne just to even up the fact that City are running/have run away with the league.

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I must admit that that was an impressive result. There must be a high chance of an all English tie in the quarter finals

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Funny thing about Salah is that no one seems to talk about the fact that he isn't at an out and out striker. He's banging in all these goals from a wide forward position. Current scoring rate is at a Ronaldo/Messi level for a forward like that. Mental stuff. 

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