Suprise Package in the Premiership?
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Which of these teams do you think will make a suprise appearance
(and prolonged stay) in the top 10 this season?
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My vote will go to Sunderland, but I think they all could produce
something.
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Derby are so down before they start! I think Sunderland and
Brum could be OK. Good year to be up with Fulham and Wigan is
such poor shape.
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Fulham and Wigan are going, or atleast close to it...im going to go
as far as predicting Middlesbrough to struggle...
i think Sunderland could be the 'suprise package' this season
i think Sunderland could be the 'suprise package' this season
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I picked Derby. West Ham were promoted via the
playoffs and they finished about 9th and made the FA Cup final.
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Derby are so down before they start! I think Sunderland and
Brum could be OK. Good year to be up with Fulham and Wigan is
such poor shape.
Are you originally from Nottingham,that small town in Derby?
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f**k off Birmingham will.
I think and hope out of those, Sunderland.
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Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not
necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just
outside the relegation zone.
Others movers? Villa will finish top six. Arsenal will
finish 7th. First manager to go will be Chris Hutchings or Sammy
Lee.
Coming up at the end of this year will be Wolves, Charlton and
Southampton, again, not necessarily in that order. Coventry will
push them all the way, as will Palace.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not
necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just
outside the relegation zone.
Others movers? Villa will finish top six. Arsenal will
finish 7th. First manager to go will be Chris Hutchings or Sammy
Lee.
Coming up at the end of this year will be Wolves, Charlton and
Southampton, again, not necessarily in that order. Coventry will
push them all the way, as will Palace.
Great stuff!!!! As a Sunderland fan it is good to hear people thinking they will do well. I sure hope that they do well. I'm hoping that they bring in some good signings. It has been rather quiet at the moment but I am sure that Roy Keane can attract some good players.
Did they see that they will be playing Juve to celebrate 10 years at the Stadium of Light. That will be a great fixture.
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I hope Sunderland stay up but they will need to sign quality
players fast if thats going to happen.
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Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not
necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just
outside the relegation zone.
Others movers? Villa will finish top six. Arsenal will
finish 7th. First manager to go will be Chris Hutchings or Sammy
Lee.
Coming up at the end of this year will be Wolves, Charlton and
Southampton, again, not necessarily in that order. Coventry will
push them all the way, as will Palace.
What bizarre predictions! I'll quote them now and bump them again at the end of the season.
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Arsenal 7th. 
. I
reckon Chelsea might drop to 4th, with liverpool and arsenal
sticking to Man U and fighting for 2nd & 3rd for most of the
season. I think everton wil finish top 6, with tottenham and
blackburn in that area aswell. The biggest suprise this season may
well be Portsmouth again.
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Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not
necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just
outside the relegation zone.
Bolton bottom four? Big call TJ.
With the resources Big Sam had compared to what he has now I'm
surprised you're not picking the Toon to win the
league.
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Personally I'm a bit worried about spurs so far. Only major signing
has been bent, who i'm not convinced by. . . . Still plenty of time
left, and I hope THFC get the cheque book out.
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Spurs signed Gareth bale aswell. But need a decent player wide on
the left,Keane could drop wide leaving Bent, Berbatov up front. Be
pushing for 4th.
Wigan and Boro will struggle.
Sanchez turnred around Northern Ireland, has bought in a
couple of players, think they should just be safe.
Derby, Wigan gone. Wolves promoted.
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I predict that Sunderland will get more than they managed last time
they were in the premiership
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Arsenal 7th. . I
reckon Chelsea might drop to 4th, with liverpool and arsenal
sticking to Man U and fighting for 2nd & 3rd for most of the
season. I think everton wil finish top 6, with tottenham and
blackburn in that area aswell. The biggest suprise this season may
well be Portsmouth again.
That sounds pretty likely to me too. Man U will still be very hard to beat. But I think the top four are safe.
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Sunderland will do well
Newcastle will surprise
I think top 3 will be Man U, Chelsea and Liverpool (not sure
what order)
Liverpool to be champions following season - this year will be
rebuilding
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Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not
necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just
outside the relegation zone.
Others movers? Villa will finish top six. Arsenal will
finish 7th. First manager to go will be Chris Hutchings or Sammy
Lee.
Coming up at the end of this year will be Wolves, Charlton and
Southampton, again, not necessarily in that order. Coventry will
push them all the way, as will Palace.
What bizarre predictions! I'll quote them now and bump them again at the end of the season.
I'm happy for you to do that. In fact, a week out from the
start of the season, I'll make predictions for all the leagues and
hopefully everyone will follow up with theirs.
BTW, are my predictions "bizarre" just because I suggest a bad
season ahead for the Gunners?
I feel they've been on the wane for a couple of seasons and
now they've got to somehow replace the one real consistent
match-winner in their squad.
They've got too many players who flatter to deceive (Adebayor,
Hleb, Baptista etc) and while a couple of these might come right as
they mature and adapt to what's required of them at the moment they
don't have the consistency, individually or as a team, to finish
top four.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not
necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just
outside the relegation zone.
Bolton bottom four? Big call TJ.
With the resources Big Sam had compared to what he has now I'm
surprised you're not picking the Toon to win the
league.
The manager at Newcastle has never really been the problem,
the problem is above him. Although the managers there can take a
bit of flak for some poor signings over the years the thing that's
held Newcastle back for the last twenty years has been the weight
of expectation and the guidance from above.
They have recruited managers well, and everyone who has taken
over has been a logical appointment at the time. The problem has
been that none has seemed to have performed, despite most being
successful elsewhere. It'll take Big Sam more than a year to sort
all of that out, especially when he's used to such an
amazingly supportive Chairman in Phil Gartside.
Bolton's problem will be engendering the same post-Crazy-Gang
spirit now that their talisman and cheerleader has gone. They've
got an inexperienced manager who's got all kind of issues to sort
out.
Anelka will start causing problems and then leave (he's had
his customary season and a half), Campo's not the influence he was
and neither is Speed, who will have to contribute more off the park
in his new role.
If the rumours that Jaskelinen (sp?) and Gardner might leave
come true then they are well and truly in the poo.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Sunderland will do well
Newcastle will surprise
I think top 3 will be Man U, Chelsea and Liverpool (not sure
what order)
Liverpool to be champions following season - this year will be
rebuilding
Liverpool have been "rebuilding" for twenty years now.
Also, I think that this will be the year the traditional top
four of Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool is broken. I reckon
Villa might do it, but otherwise look for Everton or even West Ham
(if they can retain Tevez) break through. Sunderland will be
close, I can see Roy Keane becoming one of football's greatest
managers over the coming years.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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The idea that Arsenal are waning is a bit premature. We have just
gone through 2 transitional seasons and have taken a few knocks
over that time. Carling cup final last year. Champions league
final the year before. A combination of a new stadium and a lack of
confidence after having our front men injured Henry/ RVP (and
Bergkamp retiring was a huge influence) didn't help our cause, yet
we still managed to finish fourth, and out of the six times we
played the top 3 teams, we lost 1 (vs Liverpool 1 week after we had
scored 10 goals against them in 2 games.), won 3 ( 2 vs Man U
1vs Liverpool) and Chelsea just scraped 2 draws against us (with
last minute goals on both occasions) I have heard that
Fab, Hleb, Rosicky, and Adebayour will spend alot of time in pre
season getting thier finishing up to scratch. If they net half as
many of the chances this season as they had last season I think
everyteam will go back to fearing us like they used to.
Quite frankly the top 3 teams spend so much money on players
compared to us because they dont have as much depth in thier youth
systems, they have to buy established players just to stay
competitive. We have spent very little over the years as we buy the
players before we need them, and by the time we do, they are
usually ready for it. To give an example of this, the three
promoted teams this season all relied on contributions from
Arsenal youth players (loaned & transfered). Anthony
Stokes at Sunderland, Lupoli at Derby and Larrson, Bendtner and
Muamba at Birmingham City. I know this seems long winded but having
supported Arsenal for a long time im aware of the bigger picture,
too many people are saying we are crap now Henry is gone, and quite
frankly I think we are actually a little less predictable and
more dangerous up front without him.
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Well stated Uber.
What people are forgetting is that last season Henry played just 17 matches for 10 goals before injury. We had van Persie play just 21 games before injury. And Walcott missed a significant part of the season with injury too.
Yet we were unchallenged for 4th, nearly got third, beat Man U twice, drew twice with Chelsea due to their late goals and went square with Liverpool (as you rightly pointed out).
People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season need to check the facts.
What people are forgetting is that last season Henry played just 17 matches for 10 goals before injury. We had van Persie play just 21 games before injury. And Walcott missed a significant part of the season with injury too.
Yet we were unchallenged for 4th, nearly got third, beat Man U twice, drew twice with Chelsea due to their late goals and went square with Liverpool (as you rightly pointed out).
People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season need to check the facts.
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Well stated Uber.
People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season need to check the facts.
People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season need to check the facts.
"People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next
season" are expressing an opinion over future events, and, as far
as I'm aware, there are no facts available to back up what will
happen in the future. Facts, by definition, are historical
data.
Anyway, my point is that next season I don't feel Arsenal will
challenge. I stand by that and I'll happily hold up my hands
if I'm proved wrong.
Beyond next season I'm sure they will rebound and
continue to be one of the big clubs in England. It's just that I
can see a tough season ahead for them, not just through the loss of
Henry (whose leaving, as has been said, may prove to be a blessing
in disguise), but also the unsettling departure of David Dein and
the probable upcoming departure of Wenger.
There is also a real need to replace Lehmann pretty quickly,
he's got a year left in him tops.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Well stated Uber.
People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season need to check the facts.
People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season need to check the facts.
"People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next
season" are expressing an opinion over future events, and, as far
as I'm aware, there are no facts available to back up what will
happen in the future. Facts, by definition, are historical
data.
Anyway, my point is that next season I don't feel Arsenal will
challenge. I stand by that and I'll happily hold up my hands
if I'm proved wrong.
Beyond next season I'm sure they will rebound and
continue to be one of the big clubs in England. It's just that I
can see a tough season ahead for them, not just through the loss of
Henry (whose leaving, as has been said, may prove to be a blessing
in disguise), but also the unsettling departure of David Dein and
the probable upcoming departure of Wenger.
There is also a real need to replace Lehmann pretty quickly,
he's got a year left in him tops.
We have signed a new Polish keeper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%81ukasz_Fabia%C5%84ski
And it is a fact that Henry never contributed much last season, so to state his departure means the end of Arsenal is, quite frankly, ridiculous.
Arsenal2007-07-05 13:07:30
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for all your "our record against the top 4 was great" statements,
keep in mind that you got beat twice by the hammers.
So did Man Utd as well.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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Congratulations on avoiding relegation.
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why thank you very much.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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Thanks Mac. It sounded so good to hear that again.
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[QUOTE=TheJam][QUOTE=Arsenal]
"People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next
season" are expressing an opinion over future events, and, as far
as I'm aware, there are no facts available to back up what will
happen in the future. Facts, by definition, are historical
data.
Anyway, my point is that next season I don't feel Arsenal will
challenge. I stand by that and I'll happily hold up my hands
if I'm proved wrong.
Beyond next season I'm sure they will rebound and
continue to be one of the big clubs in England. It's just that I
can see a tough season ahead for them, not just through the loss of
Henry (whose leaving, as has been said, may prove to be a blessing
in disguise), but also the unsettling departure of David Dein and
the probable upcoming departure of Wenger.
There is also a real need to replace Lehmann pretty quickly,
he's got a year left in him tops.
We have signed a new Polish keeper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%81ukasz_Fabia%C5%84ski
And it is a fact that Henry never contributed much last season, so to state his departure means the end of Arsenal is, quite frankly, ridiculous.
So are your reading and interpretation skills, as I have given
many reasons why Arsenal will not be challenging next season IN MY
OPINION, not just the deparrture of Henry. Iin fact I even stated
that I agreed that his departure could be a blessing in disguise
long term.
Sorry for having an opinion, now dismount that horse, it's too
high for you.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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The manager at Newcastle has never really been the problem, the
problem is above him. Although the managers there can take a bit of
flak for some poor signings over the years the thing that's held
Newcastle back for the last twenty years has been the weight of
expectation and the guidance from above.
They have recruited managers well, and everyone who has taken
over has been a logical appointment at the time. The problem has
been that none has seemed to have performed, despite most being
successful elsewhere. It'll take Big Sam more than a year to sort
all of that out, especially when he's used to such an
amazingly supportive Chairman in Phil Gartside.
Part of it has been some rotten signings without a clear
direction as to how a team is going to be assembled. Call it
weight of expectation but if you sign Albert Luque for 10m because
he's a star, trumpet his arrival and then wonder where you play him
in a physical league someone isn't doing their homework and thats
not all out of the manager's hands.
Normo's coming home
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My view is that the overall group of players Arsenal have assembled
are very exciting and talented. In a whole Europe context
they are a very strong side BUT unfortunately the EPL has three
even better sides for 2008 in Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool.
No one has done anything wrong, there are no major flaws but like
Team NZ and Alingi there is a small but significant advantage to
the other three sides. Injuries or unexpected crisis could
upset any of the top four and change the outcome.
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Not in order but what i
think is going to be the end of season
table.
Top
Six:
Man.Utd
Chelsea
Liverpool
Aston Villa
Everton
Arsenal
Middle Six:
Tottenham
Portsmouth
Newcastle
Sunderland
Man.City
Blackburn
Bottom Five:
Fulham
Bolton
Middlesbrough
West Ham
Wigan
Relegation:
Birmingham City
Derby
Reading
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Villa top 6? that is a massive call...i think they'll be pushing
for a UEFA spot for sure.
Man City's success depends quite alot on how quickly the takeover happens (if it happens)....
i think M'Boro will be relegated...just. maybe another close shave by Wigan if they're lucky
gings2007-07-05 23:14:35
Man City's success depends quite alot on how quickly the takeover happens (if it happens)....
i think M'Boro will be relegated...just. maybe another close shave by Wigan if they're lucky
gings2007-07-05 23:14:35
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villa will get uefa,
Liverpool,city and derby to go down
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Not in order but what i
think is going to be the end of season
table.
Top
Six:
Man.Utd
Chelsea
Liverpool
Aston Villa
Everton
Arsenal
Middle Six:
Tottenham
Portsmouth
Newcastle
Sunderland
Man.City
Blackburn
Bottom Five:
Fulham
Bolton
Middlesbrough
West Ham
Wigan
Relegation:
Birmingham City
Derby
Reading
Looks about right to me though with Trashcan Sinatra being
investigated by Thai Police and Don Juan Eriksson in charge City
could be for it.
Svennis the Pennis is talking 10 new players to make the squad
competitive with only a month til kick off.
Peoples Republik of Aucklandia
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