Swanselona

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Swanselona
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Thought I'd put up a few sites for those neutrals who might be interested in following a new Premier League team from a rugby mad country, playing in the top league of a different country - sound familiar.
This is the Swans equivalent to the Yellowfever - and like this website, is one which has some real influence on both the club and the media.
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http://scfc.co.uk/

the chat is all in the guestbook. Swans fans are called Jacks.
 
Here is a brief look back at the season just past, and with ample evidence why the team bears the nickname Swanselona.
 
http://vimeo.com/24636383
 
Also here is one of our saviours, a true Jack, whose Dutch!!!! and loved the club so much he was one of the supporters who bought the club - and is now a director
 
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I guess this is the true coalface football then?

"Phoenix till they lose"

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Dave, that sounds a lot like the Aussies bleating about the Nix.
But for those who are taking you seriously, Swansea were formed to compete in the Southern League in 1912 and then were invited to join the Third Division in 1920, along with QPR and Norwich, who coincidentally also went up this year. ANd unlike the Scots and the Irish, the Welsh, as the descendants of the original Britons, also have genuine ties to what is now England.
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Daikiwi wrote:


Dave, that sounds a lot like the Aussies bleating about the Nix.

He got you there
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Hard News wrote:
But it's called the EPL, not the EWPL...
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...Swansea Out !

Umm, A-League. Not ANZ-League. Besides, Wales is really just another county in England.

Its no longer a problem.

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Touche HN

Its no longer a problem.

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I'll support the Swans - the chance to beat the English every week is too good to turn down!!!

Pathetic. Not apathetic.

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My first ever game of footy was at the Vetch. I went in and came out as a Spurs fan, even though we lost to Tosh's mob 2-1. Actually, I was perhaps 8 years old, yet can still remember the palpable sense of being happy to get out of one of those charming pens alive.HarryHotspur2011-06-10 09:17:33
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Yes the Vetch Field was pretty much as it sounds - it was a section bought off the local gas company and was used to grow Vetch, a type of cabbage. It was in the heart of old Swansea, which was described by our only world renowned writer, Dylan Thomas, as a lovely ugly town. We loved the delapidated wee ground, visitors hated it - especially the visiting top flight teams who were given a small changing room with no mod cons. At one end is the prison and the prisoners used to hang scarves out the window while they watched. It was a place with real character, like so many of those old grounds sadly lost to posterity.
But we have moved to a brand new stadium, and I hope you Tottenham guys grow to hate coming up there as much as you did the Vetch.
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Always looked out for Swansea's results - had 4 good years at Uni there, and friends of mine used to do Sports Sci work with them at the time (= free entry to the Vetch). Shame the new stadium/PL football weren't in Swansea then, a season ticket would have been a must - instead when I was there the Swans were fighting relegation out of the league. Luckily Wrexham went instead!! Good to see there's still a few familiar faces in the team - Tait & Britton especially, used to see them out on the town all the time!!

Welcome to the PL Swansea, enjoy the 3-6 points that we (Spurs) will undoubtably gift you!
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You do realise that now you are in the EPL you will be taking away walk up crowds from Cardiff, Wrexham and other good, honest Welsh teams?

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Daikiwi wrote:
 ANd unlike the Scots and the Irish, the Welsh, as the descendants of the original Britons, also have genuine ties to what is now England.
 
Could you please expand on this a bit more?
 
I had thought that youse were all Celts (throw in a bit of Pict for the Scottish).  It was those blimmin' Angles, Saxons, Jutes and the odd randy Viking that came along later and ruined it all for you Britons.
 
 
Edit:  Oh yes, and the filthy Normans (and of course the Romans, then the gypos, wogs, darkies...)
 
Junior822011-06-10 12:54:18

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Doubt we'll get many from Cardiff, it is pretty tribal in Wales. Even Cardiff born players baulk at playing for us (John Toshack a notable exception). We'll get a few from Wrexham, we have a strong supporters club among the Gogs (North Walians). We'll draw most of our support from West Wales, and a few from Ireland will take advantage of the Cork ferry, but most of those will support English teams - go figure. There won't be many spare tickets though, we've already sold 16,000 season tickets, and all that are left are the mandatory day and away tickets.
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Junior82 wrote:
Daikiwi wrote:
 ANd unlike the Scots and the Irish, the Welsh, as the descendants of the original Britons, also have genuine ties to what is now England.
 
Could you please expand on this a bit more?
 
I had thought that youse were all Celts (throw in a bit of Pict for the Scottish).  It was those blimmin' Angles, Saxons, Jutes and the odd randy Viking that came along later and ruined it all for you Britons.
 
 
Edit:  Oh yes, and the filthy Normans (and of course the Romans, then the gypos, wogs, darkies...)
 
Junior. Without boring everyone with a history lesson, the Welsh name for England is Lloegr which is usually translated as the lost lands. There were British Kingdoms in what is now England, which were lost to the Saxon invasions, and several of the Kingdoms which were in traditional Wales had boundaries which extended into what is now England. The Welsh counties are named after some of those ancient kingdoms, Dyfed, Powys etc while the North Wales Kingdoms were ruled by descendants from the last Roman Governors, which came from the four British Kingdoms in what is now Scotland and what is now called Cumbria (which is virtually the same name as the Welsh name for Wales, Cymru). The Welsh dragon is also supposedly a link to the Roman Britons, being the former legionary banner. The Arthurian legends also go back to these times of fighting the Saxons, and the supposed retreat west into Wales. So, the Welsh are the descendants of the Roman Britons, who were the Romanised Celts before the Saxons came in the fifth century.
But Swansea wasn't founded until a Viking by the name of Svein Forkbeard set up camp in an Island in the Tawe reiver the 9th Century to go a'raiding. The name mean's Svein's Oy (Oy being Island). History is always complicated, and my head hurts.
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Good luck in the Prem, mate. Glad you came up, played some fantastic football. Admittedly only saw your two play-off games (in which I was defo going for you lot) and the highlights that were on Sky. Hope you can do well, all the best
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Fascinating.  Thanks for that DK - never knew that about the Welsh Britons.
 
However you were still Celts weren't you?  And if you were founded by a Viking then you'd be closer to the Geordies than the rest of England?
 
 

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Cheers El Nino. We have quite a big Spanish influence in our club, from the style of play which was laid down by Roberto Martinez, and several Spanish players. We're also after a Spanish legend in Senna.
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As I said Junior, it is really complicated, as history always is. Almost all the west of Britain and Ireland  is a mix of Celtic and Viking culture.  Eastern Britain is of Teutonic descent and culture. But Britain was a maritime country going back 3000 years, and when the Romans came, their soldiers came from all over the known world, from Germany to Syria and North Africa. They came and intermingled. There is really no Celtic race, there were hundreds of "Celtic" tribes, but it is a culture, which the Vikings adopted when they settled.
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Good point.  I watched the TV series "The Celts" years ago.  You're right about it being a culture.
 
Interestingly I worked with a Breton student a while back and she said she felt more at home with Irish and Scottish than with other French.
 
Kulcha eh?
 
 
Won't take you to task on your interpretation of the "known world". 
 
 

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Meant to use known world in a historical context, as in known to the Romans at the time. I couldn't say the whole world, because it obviously wasn't. Anyway, modern history says Swansea is in the premier league, and with the future ahead of us.

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OK I will pull you up on that one.  Rome's greatest territorial empire was Trajan's (died 117 AD).  During that time there was trade between the Han empire (China) - coincidently the largest territory occupied by any of the Chinese dynasties.
 
The two empires never actually clashed and it is speculated that there was no need to enter into a conflict as both empires were logistically stretched as it was (and Trajan had troubles with pesky Parthians).  Later Marcus Aurelius established some diplomatic link with the Han empire.
 
 
 
Welcome to the EPL.

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Daikiwi wrote:
Yes the Vetch Field was pretty much as it sounds - it was a section bought off the local gas company and was used to grow Vetch, a type of cabbage. It was in the heart of old Swansea, which was described by our only world renowned writer, Dylan Thomas, as a lovely ugly town. We loved the delapidated wee ground, visitors hated it - especially the visiting top flight teams who were given a small changing room with no mod cons. At one end is the prison and the prisoners used to hang scarves out the window while they watched. It was a place with real character, like so many of those old grounds sadly lost to posterity.
But we have moved to a brand new stadium, and I hope you Tottenham guys grow to hate coming up there as much as you did the Vetch.


Renowned writer, I'll say - "My Hero Bares his nerves" is the first and last poem I have read about wa*nking! The outpourings of a boily boy, indeed.

Still he grew up, wrote "Do Not Go Gently into that Good Night" and has the urban myth of 42 whiskeys before his death.

Yet only rates 2nd most important thing to come out of Swansea - local (French) knowledge of the Mumbles, yah de yah...HarryHotspur2011-06-10 20:43:28
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And the lass from Mumbles (Catherine Zeta Jones) who you mention has a genuine link to the Swans. Her uncle Robert Jones was a former director of the club.
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As long as it's not NZs erstwhile Bob Jones!
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No fear. Zeta's a fan of the club too.

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Club is in talks with Carlos Senna and Steve Caulker (season loan). Also expressed an interest in Gudjohnson.
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Daikiwi wrote:


Club is in talks with Carlos Senna and Steve Caulker (season loan). Also expressed an interest in Gudjohnson.


Marcos
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Marcos. I'll blame the drugs.
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There is only one team to follow in Wales.............................CHESTER FC !
 
I went to see Stockport County v Chester City in 2008, my first County game after 17 years in NZ. Didnt see Stockport score, or concede a goal, didn't see them win, lose, or draw  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Kiwi Hatter2011-06-14 22:12:47

We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix

And this is our Home

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Ashley Williams is a former Stockport County man.
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Manchester City away  first up, and then Wigan at home (with former manager Roberto Martinez). Awesome.
Bookies have us favourites to go right back down. Mind you they said that last year and the year before.
And a little treat from Magic Daps himself, Trundeldinho. Enjoy.
Still lives in Swansea, playing for Neath (the town next door) in the FAW.
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You can see Rory Fallon in some of those goals, he is No 23.
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HarryHotspur wrote:
My first ever game of footy was at the Vetch. I went in and came out as a Spurs fan, even though we lost to Tosh's mob 2-1. Actually, I was perhaps 8 years old, yet can still remember the palpable sense of being happy to get out of one of those charming pens alive.


Aunty Beeb, has come up trumps. I think i might even be able to see loads of heads turn towards my father as he clapped in the Swansea end (only once mind, he wasn't that thick) after Hoddle scores the penalty.

September 1981 puts me at the ripe old age of 9. Nearly didn't get to see 10, because of tha actions of my old man!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13843452.stmHarryHotspur2011-07-17 20:18:45
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Celtic came to Liberty with a strong team expecting to win easily and went home with their tail between their legs 2-0 losers.
Reports say they could not cope with Swansea's possession football.
We'll do that to a few more sides this year. Can't wait.
 
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Unlucky today, mate. Played well enough up until they scored their first. Even dominated for the first 20 or 30 minutes. But, nothing you can do about Kun, he's gonna destroy some teams this year. Plenty of positives from that though.
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El-Ni�o wrote:
Unlucky today, mate. Played well enough up until they scored their first. Even dominated for the first 20 or 30 minutes. But, nothing you can do about Kun, he's gonna destroy some teams this year. Plenty of positives from that though.

Yeah agree. Played like a true Premiership club. And Vorm is a great purchase for them.
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Thanks guys. The players and the travelling fans did club proud. Aguero was freakishly good, and Man City will be one of the best sides we'll meet this year.
We aren't banking on points from the "Euro League" sides, so apart from the goal differnce, we didn't lose too much sleep over the loss.
We'll get a better handle on how we'll go against Wigan this weekend.
I was thrilled by the way our new goal keeper Michel Vorm went, and Joe Allen made a difference when he came on - he'll start in our "home" lineup on Saturday.
We still need a bit of strengthening, though, especially up front.
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