Set the Chelsea v Burnley game to record on MySky as kickoff was 2:00am and work started at 6:30am.
Got out of bed at 3:30am to find no record light on the sky decoder, turned the tv on and found that at some stage between last night and this morning Sky/beIN had moved the game from beIN 4 to beIN 3 thus cancelling my recording.
fullmatchesandshows.com it is then :/
I used Sky Planner to setup and record the same match from Bein's 2nd hd channel yesterday evening, it stated a 01:50 slot, and it worked fine for me. Got up at a more civilised hour to watch it :)
Not sure if any of you have watched on line in the US but this is the NBC interface - a little further down is a highlights selection of videos too, but all in all a great interface.
From what I understand, even with a VPN, to access the NBC coverage you need a log-in code from a US cable provider. So I think that rules this out for most - unless you've found a way to get round that?
Are you doing that via a VPN?
I'm using PureVPN with BeIN Middle East and its just too slow unfortunately. Bit of a waste of money on my behalf but would have been happy had it worked out fine. I also bought the wrong BeIN subscription. If anybody else tries this make sure you buy the package that gives you BeIN channels 11 and 12 as they're the English commentary channels.
Thanks for the heads-up about the English channels. I saw someone else talking online about it only being in Arabic and I couldn't tell from looking at the packages last night what channel was what. Will probably sign-up after the international break.
Anyone else find the "goal rush" segments jumping to other matches really annoying? Seemed like they did it every 2 minutes in the Arsenal game this morning, and not just for goals but general saves and misses from other games too. Find it really disruptive to the game I'm actually watching and I'm sure plenty of people must be recording some of the other games to watch too so it ruins it for them. I don't usually bother with other games as I don't really have the time but my Dad being retired and in fairly poor health will tend to watch 3 or 4 games because he has the time and can't really do anything else at present anyway.
I always suspected that their would be problems with beIN introducing a stand-alone online streaming subscription.
I think what has happened is that beIN have just found out that our government are about to start taxing foreign website owners who stream to NZ subscribers. GST will have to be paid, plus compliance costs etc.
beIN were probably confronted with a lot of red tape and extra costs and thought "stuff it - not worth the extra trouble and expense."
This will hit Netflix subscribers etc. too who can expect to pay significantly more soon.
Also from October 1st when the new tax rules kick in, people using a VPN to subscribe to foreign streaming services will be liable to a $50,000 fine for avoiding paying GST.
The new tax will not apply to beIN supplying online streaming services to Sky subscribers because offshore providers will not be taxed for providing services to NZ-registered businesses (i.e. Sky TV NZ).
Hence beIN have decided to provide the beIN Connect website streaming service to Sky customers only because no GST applies and no tax red tape and compliance costs are involved.
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/gst-online-ser...
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/gst-online-pur...
Overseas online businesses may stop providing services to NZ due to GST (warning last year):
Interesting stuff Pete. I'm currently a subscriber to the NFL Gamepass for all the US grid iron games. Do you know if in theory I'd potentially be up for avoiding GST? No VPN is required though. Perhaps next year the prices will just go up instead.
Sky could easily use this as a good chance to show Kiwis that they're not entirely evil and let people sign up for the BeIN channels only. Hell I'd happily pay $20 for both channels.
Interesting stuff Pete. I'm currently a subscriber to the NFL Gamepass for all the US grid iron games. Do you know if in theory I'd potentially be up for avoiding GST? No VPN is required though. Perhaps next year the prices will just go up instead.
Netflix is so cheap anyway that an extra 15% is hardly going to change its affordability.
On another note, it's fudgeing bollocks that the government is trying to crack down on GST in instances like this but don't give a fudge about companies paying less than $2m in tax on $10b profits...
Great how most people jump to the conclusion from a headline like this "recording nearly $10 billion in annual sales" is the same as $10b in net profit and only pay $2m in tax.
Take: Exxonmobil $2.8b in sales (and assuming it is all retail fuel) - it is well reported the the taxes and duties the government get direct pre tax on profit.
So assuming Exxonmobil is the the Importer and Re-seller. They have a gross profit of 18% (You work it out) then take out all internal costs to get the the fuel to your car (petrol station get gross is around 4c a litre so don't forget to buy your your pie and paper)
Netflix is so cheap anyway that an extra 15% is hardly going to change its affordability.
On another note, it's fudgeing bollocks that the government is trying to crack down on GST in instances like this but don't give a fudge about companies paying less than $2m in tax on $10b profits...
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?...
Out of his total income from all various sources, I wonder how much in $$$$ and in a %, does our beloved PM pay?? Not a political broadcast from me, just a query in that as one of many payers of tax, I find them jumping down on this internet Tax a minefield to manage and sort. At the end of the day, is it really worth it with the resources tied up etc.
Great how most people jump to the conclusion from a headline like this "recording nearly $10 billion in annual sales" is the same as $10b in net profit and only pay $2m in tax.
Take: Exxonmobil $2.8b in sales (and assuming it is all retail fuel) - it is well reported the the taxes and duties the government get direct pre tax on profit.
So assuming Exxonmobil is the the Importer and Re-seller. They have a gross profit of 18% (You work it out) then take out all internal costs to get the the fuel to your car (petrol station get gross is around 4c a litre so don't forget to buy your your pie and paper)
I'll admit there isn't an easy solution for this issue, but the lack of acknowledgement that it even is an issue is indicative of how flawed out tax system is IMO.
I see it crept up 11 cents over ten days to $1.87 in the last 2 weeks. just in time for the school holidays. Should be back to $2.00 for them. Cnts!!
Great how most people jump to the conclusion from a headline like this "recording nearly $10 billion in annual sales" is the same as $10b in net profit and only pay $2m in tax.
Take: Exxonmobil $2.8b in sales (and assuming it is all retail fuel) - it is well reported the the taxes and duties the government get direct pre tax on profit.
So assuming Exxonmobil is the the Importer and Re-seller. They have a gross profit of 18% (You work it out) then take out all internal costs to get the the fuel to your car (petrol station get gross is around 4c a litre so don't forget to buy your your pie and paper)
I'll admit there isn't an easy solution for this issue, but the lack of acknowledgement that it even is an issue is indicative of how flawed out tax system is IMO.
Great how most people jump to the conclusion from a headline like this "recording nearly $10 billion in annual sales" is the same as $10b in net profit and only pay $2m in tax.
Take: Exxonmobil $2.8b in sales (and assuming it is all retail fuel) - it is well reported the the taxes and duties the government get direct pre tax on profit.
So assuming Exxonmobil is the the Importer and Re-seller. They have a gross profit of 18% (You work it out) then take out all internal costs to get the the fuel to your car (petrol station get gross is around 4c a litre so don't forget to buy your your pie and paper)
I'll admit there isn't an easy solution for this issue, but the lack of acknowledgement that it even is an issue is indicative of how flawed out tax system is IMO.
Take your misconceived politics to the politics thread please.
=)
Take your misconceived politics to the politics thread please.
=)
can't say I am terribly surprised by bein's incompetence. Does make you wonder what the realities of the 2022 World cup will be for those attending.
Have to wonder if sky will deliver a bein connect only offering. My guess is they will not.
Just need a nbc login... *Sigh*
Looks like sling tv blue - $25usd a month, gets you access to NBC premier league's coverage. Might give it a wirl.
Take your misconceived politics to the politics thread please.
=)
Agree, but it's not misconceived.
Ask Starbucks or Apple how much tax they pay here...
Take your misconceived politics to the politics thread please.
=)
Agree, but it's not misconceived.
Ask Starbucks or Apple how much tax they pay here...
I'm not asking Starbucks. I'd have to go into one of their stores and I will NOT be seen there!
For those asking about NBC I was in D.C. and using a friends NBC login - no VPN required.
Shared the interface as I thought it was just a really well designed live streaming platform interface; I'm just as f*cked as all the non-Sky subscribers when I'm back in the country in 2 weeks.
so basically Sky made up a lot of shark in the media last week in order to drive people to subscribe with them at $60/month.
Exactly what I was thinking too.
You have to think that surely that's pushing some law somewhere.... though proving it would be near impossible.
Just strengthens my dislike for Sky even further.
I do wonder whether BeIN had planned to scrap it all together, but have done a U-turn after all the criticism headed their way the past few days. Credit to their social media team though, going back and replying to tweets/facebook posts from a few days ago to clarify this
As much as I don't like SKY, I think the fault here rests with BeIn. Whether stuff was made up by SKY or BeIn have changed their minds about now doing it, their communication to patrons & the media throughout this process has been terrible.
They could have simply said a while back that the online service would not likely be available until x date for x reason. People could have then made their mind up about getting SKY or waiting.
Will stick with live radio commentary for now and see what happens.
Yea they told me on twitter the media reports are incorrect. beIN connect is still coming.
Leighbo just posted this on twitter, cracked me up big time
Leighbo just posted this on twitter, cracked me up big time
I'd better follow you then...
Welcome to the very small and exclusive club that is, My Followers.
Welcome to the very small and exclusive club that is, My Followers.
I've got a few followers but don't be fooled. They are mainly bots, betting companies and LFC supporters.
Welcome to the very small and exclusive club that is, My Followers.
I've got a few followers but don't be fooled. They are mainly bots, betting companies and LFC supporters.
And a few Arsenal fans who mute you on gameday ;-)
Exactly what I was thinking too.
You have to think that surely that's pushing some law somewhere.... though proving it would be near impossible.
Just strengthens my dislike for Sky even further.
Given sky is a listed company, it would almost certainly breach laws, which makes it far more likely that it is shambolic information coming from the Bein side. Remember this is the company that supposedly accidentally brought the NZ rights for an astronomical sum because they thought it included Aus.
Exactly what I was thinking too.
You have to think that surely that's pushing some law somewhere.... though proving it would be near impossible.
Just strengthens my dislike for Sky even further.
Given sky is a listed company, it would almost certainly breach laws, which makes it far more likely that it is shambolic information coming from the Bein side. Remember this is the company that supposedly accidentally brought the NZ rights for an astronomical sum because they thought it included Aus.
Take your misconceived politics to the politics thread please.
=)
Agree, but it's not misconceived.
Ask Starbucks or Apple how much tax they pay here...
Not challenging facts, just the circumstances and reasons behind why the facts are what they are. But now I'm doing what I specifically asked ya'll not to do =)
Doesn't seem like there's any rush from Bein to get a product to customers or any great will. So while it may be Sky's problem, it seems a much greater probability that it's Bein.
well the good news is the illegal streams are getting better in quality.
As soon as Bein Sports has this as a stand alone I am in but till then its illegal streams for me.
