I just don't get it - and maybe someone can explain it to me. I just don't get why supposed fans of football waste energy (and make themselves look like dicks) "hating" other teams, like Man U or Chelsea - current examples.
I'm a Man U fan, and don't get me wrong, this weekend I hope
that we'll win, and I'll watch it live (is there any other way) and
at the same time (literally with a same time kick off) hope that
Chelsea lose or draw. But there is no way that I'd not want to hold
a conversation with a Chelsea supporter about football. Yeah sure,
let's wheel out the banter, but if we spend 5 mins talking about
Drogba's season, I'm up for that. Even if they win the title, I'm
up for talking about the turning point in the season was.
I've meet my fair share of supporters of other clubs that
could only manage talking trash because I support United (and have
done for over 25 years) as perhaps they feel some obligation to -
sh*t knows the reasoning behind that. Being this far away from
England, we need to talk about English football every chance we
get.
So explain to me - because I'm really asking - why the
idiot demeanour?
Mid table2007-04-27 20:40:10
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I just don't get it - and maybe someone can explain it to me. I just don't get why supposed fans of football waste energy (and make themselves look like dicks) "hating" other teams, like Man U or Chelsea - current examples.
I'm a Man U fan, and don't get me wrong, this weekend I hope
that we'll win, and I'll watch it live (is there any other way) and
at the same time (literally with a same time kick off) hope that
Chelsea lose or draw. But there is no way that I'd not want to hold
a conversation with a Chelsea supporter about football. Yeah sure,
let's wheel out the banter, but if we spend 5 mins talking about
Drogba's season, I'm up for that. Even if they win the title, I'm
up for talking about the turning point in the season was.
I've meet my fair share of supporters of other clubs that
could only manage talking trash because I support United (and have
done for over 25 years) and feel some obligation too - sh*t knows
the reasoning behind that. Being this far away from England, we
need to talk about English football every chance we get.
So explain to me - because I'm really asking - why the
idiot demeanour?
I'll watch any team - even Stoke.
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I'd watch Stokes Vegas.
No, wait, I wouldn't.
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Fine line between banter and stupidity.
Peoples Republik of Aucklandia
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Alot of football hate has to do with politics. A number of the
older football clubs were actually formed by rival political,
religious or social groups. So alot of the hate has deep historical
roots, and is not really about football at all. Football just
happens to be one of the areas where that hate spills
over into.
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Will never, ever watch a f****t game
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Yeah, and you try telling anyone that Sport and Politics are
separate issues.
Exactly the reason why I'm so glad NZ boycott Zimbabwe in 2003
CWC, and why I'm so disappointed they didn't keep boycotting
them.
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I don't really get why club fans hate other clubs either, it all
seems silly to me.
I reckon it should be about the football not who is
playing.
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Well if you lived in England and knew some of the history you would
understand.
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yea nembo makes a good point..people from these places are brought
up with these rivalries and traditional "enemies".the stuff i cant
get my head around is the fake hate!
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seagull, do you know why Brighton and Palace dislike each
other?
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Well if you lived in England and knew some of the history you would
understand.
I know a lot of the history - and I still don't understand.
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yea nembo makes a good point..people from these places are brought
up with these rivalries and traditional "enemies".the stuff i cant
get my head around is the fake hate!
Nothing wrong with rivalry - it is why I always like to see Dunedin
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The day I stop hating MK Dons is the day I stop breathing. Club
stealing scum.
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Yeah MK Dons are a crap club. Cheating bastards aswell, got 2 of
our players sent off undeservedly! :@
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I just don't get it - and maybe someone can explain it to me. I just don't get why supposed fans of football waste energy (and make themselves look like dicks) "hating" other teams, like Man U or Chelsea - current examples.
I'm a Man U fan, and don't get me wrong, this weekend I hope
that we'll win, and I'll watch it live (is there any other way) and
at the same time (literally with a same time kick off) hope that
Chelsea lose or draw. But there is no way that I'd not want to hold
a conversation with a Chelsea supporter about football. Yeah sure,
let's wheel out the banter, but if we spend 5 mins talking about
Drogba's season, I'm up for that. Even if they win the title, I'm
up for talking about the turning point in the season was.
I've meet my fair share of supporters of other clubs that
could only manage talking trash because I support United (and have
done for over 25 years) as perhaps they feel some obligation to -
sh*t knows the reasoning behind that. Being this far away from
England, we need to talk about English football every chance we
get.
So explain to me - because I'm really asking - why the
idiot demeanour?
because the bloody beat us !!!!
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yea nembo makes a good point..people from these places are brought
up with these rivalries and traditional "enemies".the stuff i cant
get my head around is the fake hate!
Nothing wrong with rivalry - it is why I always like to see Dunedin
Tech beat Cavvyim not saying theres anything wrong with rivalries, football
wouldnt be the same without it, but things like man.u fans not
talking to chelsea fans when thier both born and raised in nz is
just stupid
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Man U and Chelsea fans that are born and raised in NZ arent proper
fans, their all glory supporters
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Man U and Chelsea fans that are born and raised in NZ arent proper
fans, their all glory supporters
There weren't many Chelsea fans evident three years ago -
where did they all spring from??
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If you need to have it explained then you'll never understand
and if you understand then you'll never need to have it
explained.
They hate us, we hate them, That's how it is. Nowt
personal
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Man U and Chelsea fans that are born and raised in NZ arent proper
fans, their all glory supporters
There weren't many Chelsea fans evident three years ago -
where did they all spring from??
I know,
and it suprises me that all of them have supported Chelsea since
they were born. Ever single one you talk to,yet 3 years ago, they
couldnt even spell Chelsea
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Hate is a bit strong, we all love football - however most "English"
football supporters dislike teams like man United &
chelsea who are destroying the sporting game called football.
Just look at England World Cup ranking.
The Premier League was the worst thing ever built by a bunch
of fat money waving business men.
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I know,
and it suprises me that all of them have supported Chelsea since
they were born. Ever single one you talk to,yet 3 years ago, they
couldnt even spell Chelseaor name 5 people who play for them
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Well i hate Man Ure Chelski and Spuds but most of all Waitak and
that will never change.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Man U and Chelsea fans that are born and raised in NZ arent proper
fans, their all glory supporters
Thats rubbish some of us have supported the team even in the bad
times.I dont get this idea just because some of us are born in NZ
we cant be proper fans.Some of us are just as
passionate about our teams as those who
have been born over there.GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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With you Ballane - I love my club.
Peoples Republik of Aucklandia
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Guess then you cant be a proper Phoenix fan then unless you were
born in Wellington.
Mmmm guess not because there probably wouldnt be to many of us.
Mmmm guess not because there probably wouldnt be to many of us.
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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I can't stand Man U, but thats mainly because of their players
(although I don't like the club either). The way Wayne Rooney plays
really annoys me; he's always swearing at people and losing the
plot. Ronaldo also annoys me with all his stepovers, but if Man u
got rid of some of those players and got players i like then I
wouldnt mind them ...as much
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and also, im a gunner fan (hence my username) and i take offence
when people call people who support chelsea arsenal and man u glory
hunters or whatever. Just cos we arent born, and have never been,
to england doesn't mean we aren't as passionate a fan, if not more
passionate a fan, than people born and bred in england
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Rooney and Ronaldo annoy the hell out of me with their antics too.
Despite this, Man U fully deserve the title this year.
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I decided to support sunderland because they won the FA Cup in 73,
the year I was born.
I have stuck by them through the good times and the bad (more of the later I'm afraid).
I spent a summer in the North East one year and happened to be working with a Geordie fella. We worked together for about 6 weeks and got on pretty well, sharing a few beers after work and the usual student antics. I never mentioned the fact I supported Sunderland and as I have a southern accent he never seamed to ask. When the Charity Shield came around the conversation quickly turned to football and the enevitable question was asked: Arsenal? Chelsea? West Ham? I gave him my awnser and to my absolute horror he walked out of the pub, leaving half a beer and never talking to me, or even noticing me at work again!
Now I mean, come on! Whats the point?
I have stuck by them through the good times and the bad (more of the later I'm afraid).
I spent a summer in the North East one year and happened to be working with a Geordie fella. We worked together for about 6 weeks and got on pretty well, sharing a few beers after work and the usual student antics. I never mentioned the fact I supported Sunderland and as I have a southern accent he never seamed to ask. When the Charity Shield came around the conversation quickly turned to football and the enevitable question was asked: Arsenal? Chelsea? West Ham? I gave him my awnser and to my absolute horror he walked out of the pub, leaving half a beer and never talking to me, or even noticing me at work again!
Now I mean, come on! Whats the point?
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I decided to support sunderland because they won the FA Cup in 73,
the year I was born.
I have stuck by them through the good times and the bad (more of the later I'm afraid).
I spent a summer in the North East one year and happened to be working with a Geordie fella. We worked together for about 6 weeks and got on pretty well, sharing a few beers after work and the usual student antics. I never mentioned the fact I supported Sunderland and as I have a southern accent he never seamed to ask. When the Charity Shield came around the conversation quickly turned to football and the enevitable question was asked: Arsenal? Chelsea? West Ham? I gave him my awnser and to my absolute horror he walked out of the pub, leaving half a beer and never talking to me, or even noticing me at work again!
Now I mean, come on! Whats the point?
I have stuck by them through the good times and the bad (more of the later I'm afraid).
I spent a summer in the North East one year and happened to be working with a Geordie fella. We worked together for about 6 weeks and got on pretty well, sharing a few beers after work and the usual student antics. I never mentioned the fact I supported Sunderland and as I have a southern accent he never seamed to ask. When the Charity Shield came around the conversation quickly turned to football and the enevitable question was asked: Arsenal? Chelsea? West Ham? I gave him my awnser and to my absolute horror he walked out of the pub, leaving half a beer and never talking to me, or even noticing me at work again!
Now I mean, come on! Whats the point?
and he left without finishing his beer? must've had some serious issues
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Yeah good on ya Ballane i'm an Arsenal fan and have been since i
was a little kid i've never changed and never want to change
despite the sh*t i get and the bad times i go through i still love
them and love supporting them!!
If i could i would go and watch them and go to away matches but i have to wait till i go to Europe next year for that.
If i could i would go and watch them and go to away matches but i have to wait till i go to Europe next year for that.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Sorry guys this is how it works. Look where you were born, look who
your dad supported, look who your uncle supported and that's the
team you support. Those hatreds go back decades and have more to do
with culture than sport.
Having said that one of the reasons ManU/Chelsea etc are hated
by football fans is that their fans (and I know I'm going to get
loads of 'supportd them for three generations' replies
here) are made up of mostly people who have picked them out of
the air after a winning season. That's not how it works. 'Oh look
Ronaldo looked cool this year, I think I'll support
them.
It's just such a shame that NZ is generations away from some
of that hatred of their own - then people might understand. What we
really needed was a Wellington Phoenix and an
Auckland Knights - that would have got some
fireworks started.
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I supported Ipswich as a boy (thems the days of Wark Osman and
Brazil!) mainly due to their success and their great footy seen on
Big League Soccer with that other legend Brian Moore.
However, I changed to Spurs when Clive Allen scored his 49 league goals and with the succession of centre forwards including Lineker, Walsh, Sheringham and now Berbatov I stuck with them.
Even made the pilgrimage to WHL to see them play Sheffield Wednesday from the home end.
I dont hate other teams, my Gooner friend and I have the banter, however I will watch any football, from down the local park, to NZFC to Italian, Spanish, Dutch whatever, if it's football i'll watch it.
Just wish I'd stayed in Wellington instead of chasing the Knights... :-((
However, I changed to Spurs when Clive Allen scored his 49 league goals and with the succession of centre forwards including Lineker, Walsh, Sheringham and now Berbatov I stuck with them.
Even made the pilgrimage to WHL to see them play Sheffield Wednesday from the home end.
I dont hate other teams, my Gooner friend and I have the banter, however I will watch any football, from down the local park, to NZFC to Italian, Spanish, Dutch whatever, if it's football i'll watch it.
Just wish I'd stayed in Wellington instead of chasing the Knights... :-((
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mancs are the worse glory hunters of all. Cant stand them they are
just arrogant twats.
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Sorry guys this is how it works. Look where you were born, look who
your dad supported, look who your uncle supported and that's the
team you support. Those hatreds go back decades and have more to do
with culture than sport.
You are right EG.My dad followed Huddersfield,my mum and uncle
were Leeds fans.My 2 little brothers chose to side with them.Had
heaps of rows over the years.Still at it now and better still next
season we are in the same division.Let the games begin!
Having said that one of the reasons ManU/Chelsea etc are hated
by football fans is that their fans (and I know I'm going to get
loads of 'supportd them for three generations' replies
here) are made up of mostly people who have picked them out of
the air after a winning season. That's not how it works. 'Oh look
Ronaldo looked cool this year, I think I'll support
them.
It's just such a shame that NZ is generations away from some
of that hatred of their own - then people might understand. What we
really needed was a Wellington Phoenix and an
Auckland Knights - that would have got some
fireworks started.
Good luck at Wembley.Bring a piece of turf back sounds like we
might need it to relay the pitch before the Phoenix play!
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"hang on a min dis you say stjoke?" steve u ok?
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Good point nembo you must be there to understand these reasons!!
its a must 
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