Group G - Belgium | Egypt | Iran | New Zealand

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2 months ago · edited 2 months ago · History
Latest update on the Iran situation from London's Telegraph newspaper (reprinted on the Stuff website):
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360977029/iran-sends-fifa-10-point-ultimatum-amid-threat-withdraw-world-cup


Iran sends FIFA 10-point ultimatum amid threat to withdraw from World Cup

Iran has issued a 10-point ultimatum for FIFA to guarantee its football team’s involvement at next month’s World Cup in the United States.
The Middle East nation signalled in its most direct terms since the war with the US and Israel started that it will compete. However, it is seeking a series of guarantees to ensure no “retreat from our beliefs, culture and convictions”.
In a sign of ongoing tensions surrounding the team’s participation, the Iranian Football Federation (FFIRI) has said the US “must take our concerns into account”.
This could be the sticking point: "Visas without complications for all players and staff, including those who performed military service for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps"
Concern around visas being blocked over links to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps could be a significant hurdle. The group is listed as a terrorist organisation in Canada and the US, and [Iranian FA president] Taj’s links to it were cited as a reason he was denied entry into Canada for the recent FIFA Congress.

The entire list has not been confirmed but the Iranian journalist Alireza Akbari reports that they include:
  • Visas without complications for all players and staff, including those who performed military service for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
  • Once visas are issued, players and staff should not be subjected to questioning by US immigration authorities.
  • Visas for Iranian journalists and fans attending matches must be resolved in advance.
  • US authorities must maintain the highest security protocols at airports, hotels, transit routes and stadiums.
  • Fans may only bring their official team flags to stadiums; no other flags will be allowed.
  • The playing of Iran’s national anthem during all matches must be “ensured and free from disruption”.
  • Questions from journalists during press conferences should be strictly limited to match-related topics.
  • It was reported elsewhere that remaining demands include requests for no political criticism directed at the team, no insults towards Iranian military personnel and official recognition of Islamic Republic symbols throughout the tournament.

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27 days ago
HT Egypt 1 - 0 Belgium 

Very good 1st half of footie. It's boiling out there. Can Egypt keep that energy without the ball? Not sure...

Prediction Egypt 1 - 2 Belgium 

To be fair on Egypt, that score could be the other way round. 
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27 days ago
I'm actually surprised that Egypt are ahead at this point, I had thought the Belgians would dominate this group.
Seems they are rushing their chances a bit, lacking some composure, which as Spain showed this morning can happen at the big dance.

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27 days ago
1-1 scramble in the goal and Belgium equalise before the ad break

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27 days ago
a draw between these two is the bets outcome for us I think.

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Mainland FC
27 days ago
Very good outcome. 
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Mainland FC
27 days ago
theprof wrote:
a draw between these two is the bets outcome for us I think.
potentially the worst, means both teams have to up the ante against us and Iran.
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AucklandPhoenixLeggy
27 days ago
Realistically I'd prefer Belgium to beat both Egypt and Iran, and have won the group prior to playing us. Unfortunately I think this makes it tougher now
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27 days ago
observerfromuh wrote:
 theprof wrote:
a draw between these two is the bets outcome for us I think.
potentially the worst, means both teams have to up the ante against us and Iran.
true, but that adds pressure, which if we can defend which will create opportunities.

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27 days ago
After watching the game today and seeing how good Egypt was, even more crucial that we somehow come away with the win today.

Auckland will rise once more

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27 days ago
Enjoying this four hour window where I can tell myself that all four teams might actually be quite evenly matched lol. 
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dukwlapMainland FCtheprof
27 days ago
pretty simple formula for today, we have to go for the win, get ahead of the group from game one, put all the pressure ion the big two in the group.

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27 days ago
theprof wrote:
pretty simple formula for today, we have to go for the win, get ahead of the group from game one, put all the pressure ion the big two in the group.
Umfortunately I think this morning's result will reinforce Baze's approach to play for a draw 'to keep us in it'.
I know, I know, its serious!

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27 days ago
Im hopeful that despite any input from Baze, Wood and the leadership group (including Smith) will push for a steal!

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27 days ago
theprof wrote:
pretty simple formula for today, we have to go for the win, get ahead of the group from game one, put all the pressure ion the big two in the group.
I very much doubt the big two will feel any pressure whether NZ or Iran win this one, but definitely need to go for the win here as you say.
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27 days ago
Turfmoore wrote:
 theprof wrote:
pretty simple formula for today, we have to go for the win, get ahead of the group from game one, put all the pressure ion the big two in the group.
Umfortunately I think this morning's result will reinforce Baze's approach to play for a draw 'to keep us in it'.
I was wrong. So wrong! (even though we ended up with a draw)
I know, I know, its serious!

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21 days ago
Iran with a great set piece that ended up being offside by a butt!
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I'm positive things will go wrong.
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21 days ago
Belgium struggling to break down a tough Iranian defence, even having to rely on a goal being scrubbed off for Iran to be 0-0.
Will still be tough for Iran to stay in this, they already look like they are just hanging on! But the longer this stays 0-0 the more stressful it gets for Belgium.3
Puts a bit of pressure on us to score early today!

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21 days ago · edited 21 days ago · History
red card for Ngoy, defender drags down the Iranian attacker - straight red!
now the pressure piles up!

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21 days ago
 Belgium lose Julien Ngoy for the NZ game after getting sent off against Iran
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21 days ago
both a positive and negative, assuming Belgium dont win this they will be coming out against us desperate for the win.

not over yet but they have 25ish minutes to rectify the current 0-0 scoreline

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21 days ago · edited 21 days ago · History
finishes 0-0, well played Iran.

we win today and we get through, looking at the number of 3rd placed teams on 0 points at this stage of the tournament gives me a little hope that we could sneak through on 3 draws.

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21 days ago
Google AI summation of our chances to qualify after this draw:
Why This is Great News for the All Whites
  • The Points Threshold Decreased: With Iran and Belgium maxing out at 2 points after two games, a win for New Zealand against Egypt today puts them isolated at the very top of Group G with 4 points. That would lock in a 99% chance of automatic knockout qualification. [1, 2]
  • The Tiebreaker Advantage: Because New Zealand scored 2 goals against Iran, they currently hold the primary goals-for tiebreaker over both Belgium (1 goal) and Egypt (1 goal). [1]
  • The Final Matchday Safety Net: If New Zealand draws with Egypt today, they go into the final matchday level with everyone on 2 points. Crucially, they face Belgium last. Because Belgium has struggled to score (only 1 goal in 180 minutes), a final-day draw against them becomes a much more realistic, qualification-yielding result than it looked before the tournament. [1, 2]
Updated Match Projections
  • Win vs Egypt: >99% chance to qualify (Guaranteed Top 2 or Best 3rd).
  • Draw vs Egypt: ~55% chance to qualify (Keeps destiny entirely in their hands vs Belgium).
  • Loss vs Egypt: ~20% chance to qualify (Must beat Belgium on the final day). [1]

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LG
21 days ago
theprof wrote:
finishes 0-0, well played Iran.

we win today and we get through, looking at the number of 3rd placed teams on 0 points at this stage of the tournament gives me a little hope that we could sneak through on 3 draws.

Scoring against Iran isn't for everybody I guess
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I'm positive things will go wrong.
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Half a PintLGMainland FCSouthernix+1
21 days ago
That means if either team wins today they’re essentially through, right? Neither would be able to catch the other given head-to-head is the tiebreaker, and 4 points almost certainly secures one of the 3rd place slots at a minimum. 
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Half a PintSouthernixtheprof
21 days ago
This group is still wide open - that's great for us!
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LG
21 days ago
They need to go after Egypt otherwise Mo Salad could hurt them late in the game. 2-0 would see us through.
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21 days ago
LG wrote:
They need to go after Egypt otherwise Mo Salad could hurt them late in the game. 2-0 would see us through.
1-0 will see us through.

We need to be brave. Watching at work, all classrooms open to the game... but no beer to be had, until I get home to celebrate!!
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PKtheprof
21 days ago
If we can’t make it, I really hope Iran does and stuffs América on their home ground in a knock out game.

Auckland will rise once more

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21 days ago · edited 19 days ago · History
Extended highlights of that Belgium v Iran match, and some big saves from both keepers.

3-6 months ago we would have hoped the keeping would be a strength of this AWs team. Truth is, it’s a bit of a weakness.
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19 days ago
Why did he freeze on Iran first goal? But to be fair on Croc, the defence has been poor. I know everybody is looking at him for Egypt 3rd goal but Payne was at 6's and 7's. Really disappointing. 

Damn 🙄, there is still a chance against this Belgian team. Yes they got star players but they not playing well. 
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