2015 Fantasy League (NFL)

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Yakcall wrote:
What game you watching. They won 20-17 over the Browns?

Haha no idea, I thought they lost, but I did switch away from it, was such a terrible game :P

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[SWRLY] Broncos RB CJ Anderson - Ankle - No details, though believe it's not serious.

[TEGAL] Jaguars TE Julius Thomas - Finger - Broken finger, expected to miss whole Preseason, chance to start Week 1

[FA] Atlanta RB Antoine Smith - Hamstring - And the 3rd RB for Falcons also goes down with a Hamstring injury.(Coleman & Freeman already out)

Just an insane number of injuries.

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[USOS] Kevin White (WR) - Undergoing surgery on a fracture in his shin, will start season on PUP list (Min 6 games missed), and may miss the whole season.

[PAUL] Dez Bryant (WR) - Hamstring - Day to Day (Probably more likely Week to Week

[SWRLY] CJ.Spiller (RB) - Knee - Had surgery yesterday in an attempt to be ready for Week 1.

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you've been busy trying to keep up with all these injuries!

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Tegal wrote:

you've been busy trying to keep up with all these injuries!

Been using this page....http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/injuries/nfl/all/

Very useful to see who is in and out...

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[BLKDS] Donte Moncrief (WR) - Groin - No details yet, but generally any issue in this area sees them miss the next game at least.

[WFFLS] Knile Davis (RB) - Knee - Day to Day

And in a sad moment for the Vikings, Phil Loadholt (RT) is out for the season after tearing his achilles...Have to think that the first attempt to fix this will be TJ.Clemmings the rookie OLine player who can play everywhere except C on the line. Not sure if I would have Berger or Yankey at LG, but we'll see, hopefully they can keep Teddy safe.

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Right well I am going to do my best to provide some major updates today, the first one will be the FULL Injury update to the best of my knowledge, team by team through the NFL, hopefully including Suspensions that I know of. Then the second update I am going to make is that of how I am currently seeing teams offensive depth charts. Most of the back-up positions are likely to be based on my own thoughts with some help from others.

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Player Pos YF Team NFL Team Injury/Timeline Notes
Michael Floyd WR Waffles Cardinals Hand - Doubtful Week 1 Floyd dislocated 3 fingers, they got through the skin...OUCH
Antoine Smith RB Free Agent Falcons Hamstring - Day to Day A slight Hamstring strain, each of the other ATL RBs has
had a similar injury and was back in 1-2 weeks
Bershad Perriman WR Troopers Ravens Knee - Day to Day
Dennis Pitta TE Free Agent Ravens Hip - PUP Expected to move to IR, as is likely out for the whole season.
Karlos Williams RB Whale Bills Illness - Uncertain Has spent time in hospital, no-one saying what the cause is
Fred Jackson RB Whale Bills Hamstring - 2 Weeks Looks to miss two weeks, look for him PS Wk3
Boobie Dixon RB Usos Bills Calf - 1 Month Injured Aug 5th, struggling to make Week 1
LeSean McCoy RB Rodriguez Bills Hamstring Injured today!
Alshon Jeffery WR Usos Bears Calf - Day to Day Expected to miss Pre-season Wk2, Wk 3 is the ? for him
Kevin White WR Usos Bears Shin - PUP Heading towards being on IR, can return Wk 8 right now.
Dwayne Bowe WR Hammers Browns Hamstring - Wk to Wk Injured Aug 11, probably miss this weeks game, Wk3 ?
Josh Gordon WR Tegal Browns Suspended Indefinitely Return in 2016?
Dez Bryant WR Paul Cowboys Hamstring Day to Day Injured Aug 15, though sounds more minor than others.
Ryan Williams RB Free Agent Cowboys Knee - IR Out for Season
Emanuel Sanders WR Usos Broncos Hamstring - Day to Day Injured Aug 18, sounds minor, won't play this weekend.
Jeff Heuerman TE Free Agent Broncos Knee - IR Out for Season
Joique Bell RB Tegal Lions Knee - Day to Day Still recovering from January Surgery, been quite slow.
Arian Foster RB Rodriguez Texans Groin - Out Indefinitely It's going to be interesting, could go PUP or IR to return
BUT no-one really knows right now, ~2mths recovery time.
Donte Moncrief WR Billikids Colts Groin - No news Just happened yesterday, awaiting statement from team
Julius Thomas TE Tegal Jaguars Hand - Week to Week Broken Finger, will miss PS, look at a chance Week 1
Marqise Lee WR Rodriguez Jaguars Hamstring Wk to Wk Injured early Aug, should see time this weekend.
Justin Blackmon WR Free Agent Jaguars Suspended Indefinitely Applied to be readmited to league and got rejected.
TJ. Yeldon RB Rodriguez Jaguars Finger - Day to Day Missed Preseason game, maybe for this week.
DeVante Parker WR Whale Dolphins Foot - 1 month Is questionable for Week 1
MyCole Pruitt TE Billikids vikings Ankle - Day to Day
Julian Edelman WR Tegal Patriots Unknown - Day to Day
Tom Brady QB Whale Patriots Suspended 4 Games
LeGarrette Blount RB Tegal Patriots Suspended 1 Game
CJ. Spiller RB Rodriguez Saints Knee Surgery - 1 month In danger of missing Week 1 (Doubtful)
Josh Hill TE Waffles Saints Undisclosed - Day 2 Day
Reuben Randle WR Hammers Giants Knee - Day to Day
Larry Donnell TE Troopers Giants Achilles - Day to Day Was "Sore" not "tore" 
Jace Amaro TE Paul Jets Shoulder - Wk to Wk
Geno Smith QB Free Agent Jets FACE - Ret Week 6? Hahahaha he got punched in the face over $600
Devin Smith WR Whale Jets Ribs - Doubtful Wk 1
Stevan Ridley RB Tegal Jets Knee Surgery - Weeks Doubtful for Week 1
Zach Ertz TE Usos Eagles Groin - Week to Week Doubtful for Week 1
LeVeon Bell RB Waffles Steelers Suspended 2 Weeks
Antonio Gates TE Rodriguez Chargers Suspended 4 Weeks
DeAndre Smelter WR Fairies 49ers Knee - Return Week 6?
Todd Gurley RB Billikids Rams Recovery - Limited
Niles Paul TE Free Agent Redskins Ankle - IR Out for Season - This injury was horrible, dislocated ankle,
 fractures as well, and ligament damage, basically the only
thing holding his foot on was the skin.
DeSean Jackson WR Fairies Redskins Shoulder - Wk  to Wk

There were a few FAs that I left out as they were seemingly unimportant and not much to say about them.

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So in the time since I have posted this:

Percy harvin (Hip) - day to Day

Terrelle Pryor (Hamstring) - Day to Day

Gavin Escobar (Concussion) - Week to Week

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Roster Rundowns

Cardinals Starter Back-up Comments
QB C.Palmer (LOHA) Drew Stanton (FA)
RB Andre Ellington (NP) Chris Johnson (FA)/
David Johnson (FAIR)
Just signed CJ0K after Arians complained about the quality
of his RBs in camp.
WR1 L.Fitzgerald (LOHA) JJ.Nelson (FA)
WR2 John Brown (RMTC)/
M.Floyd (HUYS)
Jaron Brown (FA) In 3 WR sets both will see the field, but Brown is getting
big push in camp, especially now that Floyd is out injured.
TE Jermaine Gresham (FA) Jake Ballard (FA)/ John Carlson (FA) Nothing to even look at here.
Falcons Starter Back-up Comments
QB Mat Ryan (HMEZ) TJ Yates (FA)
RB Devonta Freeman (MET)/
Tevin Coleman (RMTC)
Antone Smith (FA) The two youngsters are battling very hard this season. Not 
yet sure who will win the job (All 3 have hamstring issues)
WR1 Julio Jones (HUYS) Leonard Hankerson (FA)
WR2 Roddy White (HUYS) Justin Hardy (Paul) Hardy is the heir apparent here, look for him to go big if White
goes down with an injury
TE Jacob Tamme (FA) Tony Moeaki (FA) Ugly listings here.
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JonoNewton wrote:

So in the time since I have posted this:

Percy harvin (Hip) - day to Day

Terrelle Pryor (Hamstring) - Day to Day

Gavin Escobar (Concussion) - Week to Week

Kelvin Benjamin (Knee) - MRI to be had, sprain expected out come.

LeSean McCoy (Hamstring) - Should be ready for Week 1

Andre Holmes (Broken hand) - 3-4 Weeks, will miss time

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[WHALE] Kelvin Benjamin (WR) - Torn ACL, out for season.

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JonoNewton wrote:

[WHALE] Kelvin Benjamin (WR) - Torn ACL, out for season.

Can I call me for the spoon this season.. my odds must be like 1.01 at the TAB.

I have two out for season (only 1 IR slot though) 1 suspended for four games and 4 questionable. What a strong squad....

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That injury probably screws my chances as well.  Cam Newton going to be much less effective now probably.

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That injury probably screws my chances as well.  Cam Newton going to be much less effective now probably.

I think Cam will be fine, similar to last year, remember going into last season he only had Benjamin and people were scared...he was fine...Funchess is basically a Benjamin clone :)

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JonoNewton wrote:

That injury probably screws my chances as well.  Cam Newton going to be much less effective now probably.

I think Cam will be fine, similar to last year, remember going into last season he only had Benjamin and people were scared...he was fine...Funchess is basically a Benjamin clone :)

True, it's amazing news for you. 

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Tegal wrote:

JonoNewton wrote:

That injury probably screws my chances as well.  Cam Newton going to be much less effective now probably.

I think Cam will be fine, similar to last year, remember going into last season he only had Benjamin and people were scared...he was fine...Funchess is basically a Benjamin clone :)

True, it's amazing news for you. 

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Tegal wrote:

JonoNewton wrote:

That injury probably screws my chances as well.  Cam Newton going to be much less effective now probably.

I think Cam will be fine, similar to last year, remember going into last season he only had Benjamin and people were scared...he was fine...Funchess is basically a Benjamin clone :)

True, it's amazing news for you. 

Shhhh. I haven't got that many young WRs or anything :)

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I'm not that high on Funchess to be honest.  He's going to be a huge target because of his size, but I think he's more likely to be a bust than a great WR.  Wasn't there a rumour he was thinking of trying out at TE (I've probably got the wrong guy in mind for that).

Anyway, would be very happy to be proved wrong!!

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I'm not that high on Funchess to be honest.  He's going to be a huge target because of his size, but I think he's more likely to be a bust than a great WR.  Wasn't there a rumour he was thinking of trying out at TE (I've probably got the wrong guy in mind for that).

Anyway, would be very happy to be proved wrong!!

He was a receiving TE at college, in the Gronkowski mold. But I believe he played High School Football at WR, his play style is very similar to Benjamin.

I'm not too high on Funchess either, he is very similar in play & size to Benjamin, for sure he is not as good as KB, but will definitely be the one to watch in the team this year.

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I actually think he's undervalued because of the TE thing. Which is why I tried to pinch him off Jono :p

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If he turns out anything like Gronk (either at TE or WR) then he'll be the pick of the draft. 

You've got my hopes up now, I was basically crying into my coffee this morning when I heard about Benjamin.

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Full Injury Update

Name POS NFL Team YF Team Payslaves Team Status Date Injury Returns
Michael Floyd WR Cards Waffles Legend Sidelined 8/5/2015 hand Questionable for Week 1
Breshad Perriman WR Ravens Troopers Power Sidelined 7/31/2015 knee Week to week
LeSean McCoy RB Bills Rodriguez No Idea Sidelined 8/18/2015 hamstring Ready Week 1
Karlos Williams RB Bills Whale FA Sidelined 8/17/2015 illness Ready for Week 1
Devin Funchess WR Panthers Waffles Philadelphia Sidelined 8/20/2015 hamstring Day to day
Kelvin Benjamin WR Panthers Whale FA I.L. 8/19/2015 knee surgery Out for season
Alshon Jeffery WR Bears Usos Infatuation Sidelined 8/13/2015 calf Day to day
Kevin White WR Bears Usos FA PUP 7/29/2015 leg Return Week 8?
Johnny Manziel QB Browns Tegal FA Sidelined 8/23/2015 elbow Day to day
Josh Gordon WR Browns Tegal FA Suspended 1/25/2015 - Return 2016?
Dez Bryant WR Cowboys Paul Philadelphia Sidelined 8/15/2015 hamstring Day to day
Emmanuel Sanders WR Broncos Usos Racer Sidelined 8/18/2015 hamstring Day to day
Joique Bell RB Lions Tegal Infatuation Sidelined 1/15/2015 knee Day to day
Jordy Nelson WR Packers Tegal Racer Sidelined 8/23/2015 Knee - ACL? Season in doubt
Arian Foster RB Texans Rodriguez Power Sidelined 8/4/2015 groin Out indefinitely
Phillip Dorsett WR Colts Tegal Crushed Sidelined 8/22/2015 knee Day to day
Donte Moncrief WR Colts Billikids Fools Sidelined 8/16/2015 groin
T.J. Yeldon RB Jaguars Rodriguez Backhanders Sidelined 8/18/2015 finger Day to day
Julius Thomas TE Jaguars Tegal Underachievers Sidelined 8/14/2015 hand Ready for Week 1
Marqise Lee WR Jaguars Rodriguez FA Sidelined 8/6/2015 hamstring Week to week
DeVante Parker WR Fins Whale Legend Sidelined 6/5/2015 foot Questionable for Week 1
Julian Edelman WR Pats Tegal Philadelphia Sidelined 8/12/2015 - Day to Day
Brandon LaFell WR Pats Troopers Infatuation Sidelined 7/27/2015 foot Day to day
Tom Brady QB Pats Whale No Idea Suspended 5/11/2015 - Return Week 6
LeGarrette Blount RB Pats Tegal Racer Suspended 4/7/2015 - Return Week 2
C.J. Spiller RB Saints Rodriguez Minions Sidelined 8/11/2015 knee surgery Questionable for Week 1
Josh Hill TE Saints Waffles FA Sidelined 8/7/2015 undisclosed Day to day
Rueben Randle WR Giants Hammers FA Sidelined 8/16/2015 knee Day to day
Jace Amaro TE Jets Paul FA Sidelined 8/13/2015 shoulder Week-to-week
Devin Smith WR Jets Whale FA Sidelined 7/31/2015 ribs Doubtful for Week 1
Stevan Ridley RB Jets Tegal FA Sidelined 4/12/2015 knee surgery Out indefinitely
Roy Helu RB Raiders Whale FA Sidelined 8/22/2015 wrist Week to week
Zach Ertz TE Eagles Usos Racer Sidelined 8/14/2015 groin Doubtful for Week 1
Le'Veon Bell RB Steelers Waffles Infatuation Suspended 4/9/2015 - Return Week 3
Antonio Gates TE Chargers Rodriguez Power Suspended 7/2/2015 - Return Week 5
Paul Richardson WR Seahawks Paul FA Sidelined 1/10/2015 knee surgery Doubtful for Week 1
DeAndre Smelter WR 49ers Fairies FA Sidelined 5/9/2015 knee surgery Return Week 7?
Todd Gurley RB Rams Billikids Fools Sidelined 2/18/2015 knee surgery Limited in training camp
Robert Griffin III QB Skins Rodriguez FA Sidelined 8/20/2015 concussion Day to day
DeSean Jackson WR Skins Fairies Underachievers Sidelined 8/6/2015 shoulder Week to week
WeeNix
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If that turns out to be a torn ACL for Nelson, that is crazy.  Got the day off work and was watching the game.  He got up and quickly hobbled off to the sideline, looked nothing more than a slight pull or jarring of something.

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my trade curse continues. 

Good for you though, as it bumps Devante Adams up. 

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If that turns out to be a torn ACL for Nelson, that is crazy.  Got the day off work and was watching the game.  He got up and quickly hobbled off to the sideline, looked nothing more than a slight pull or jarring of something.

I thought from the way he went down it looked like an ACL, but he got up so quickly and looked fine walking down the tunnel I figured was just a sprain, crazy bad luck if it is.

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Also I went and dropped Ty Montgomery just before it happened, and picked up Brandon Coleman. Was kinda just a move I'd make, nice waiver pick there for someone. But as a good side for me Nick Toon hurt his ankle, should confirm Coleman's spot in the starting line-up :)

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Hmmm..... 6 car, 59 yds, 9.8 ypc. => Doug Martin

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JonoNewton wrote:

Hmmm..... 6 car, 59 yds, 9.8 ypc. => Doug Martin

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Full Injury Update

Italics for Updated Players

Name POS NFL Team YF Team Payslaves Team Status Date Injury Returns
Michael Floyd WR Cards Waffles Legend Sidelined 8/5/2015 hand Questionable for Week 1
Roddy White WR Falcons Waffles Sidlined 8/23/2015 elbow Ready for Week 1
Breshad Perriman WR Ravens Troopers Power Sidelined 7/31/2015 knee Questionable for Week 1
Lorenzo Taliaferro RB Ravens FA Sidelined 8/24/2015 knee Questionable for Week 1
LeSean McCoy RB Bills Rodriguez No Idea Sidelined 8/18/2015 hamstring Ready for Week 1
Karlos Williams RB Bills Whale FA Sidelined 8/17/2015 illness Ready for Week 1
Devin Funchess WR Panthers Waffles Philadelphia Fully Fit 8/20/2015 hamstring
Kelvin Benjamin WR Panthers Whale FA I.L. 8/19/2015 knee surgery Out for season
Alshon Jeffery WR Bears Usos Infatuation Sidelined 8/13/2015 calf Day to day
Kevin White WR Bears Usos FA PUP 7/29/2015 leg Return Week 8?
Johnny Manziel QB Browns Tegal FA Sidelined 8/23/2015 elbow Day to day
Josh Gordon WR Browns Tegal FA Suspended 1/25/2015 - Return 2016?
Dez Bryant WR Cowboys Paul Philadelphia Fully Fit 8/15/2015 hamstring
Emmanuel Sanders WR Broncos Usos Racer Sidelined 8/18/2015 hamstring Day to day
Joique Bell RB Lions Tegal Infatuation Sidelined 1/15/2015 knee Day to day
Jordy Nelson WR Packers Tegal Racer Sidelined 8/23/2015 ACL Out for Season
Arian Foster RB Texans Rodriguez Power Sidelined 8/4/2015 groin Return Week 3
Phillip Dorsett WR Colts Tegal Crushed Sidelined 8/22/2015 knee Day to day
Donte Moncrief WR Colts Billikids Fools Fully Fit 8/16/2015 groin
T.J. Yeldon RB Jaguars Rodriguez Backhanders Fully Fit 8/18/2015 finger
Julius Thomas TE Jaguars Tegal Underachievers Sidelined 8/14/2015 hand Ready for Week 1
Marqise Lee WR Jaguars Rodriguez FA Sidelined 8/6/2015 hamstring Week to week
DeVante Parker WR Fins Whale Legend Sidelined 6/5/2015 foot Questionable for Week 1
Julian Edelman WR Pats Tegal Philadelphia Sidelined 8/12/2015 - Day to Day
Brandon LaFell WR Pats Troopers Infatuation Sidelined 7/27/2015 foot Day to day
Tom Brady QB Pats Whale No Idea Suspended 5/11/2015 - Return Week 6
LeGarrette Blount RB Pats Tegal Racer Suspended 4/7/2015 - Return Week 2
Nick Toon WR Saints Whale FA Sidelined 8/27/2015 ankle Week to Week
C.J. Spiller RB Saints Rodriguez Minions Sidelined 8/11/2015 knee surgery Questionable for Week 1
Josh Hill TE Saints Waffles FA Fully Fit 8/7/2015 undisclosed
Victor Cruz WR Giants Rodriguez ? Sidelined 8/27/2015 calf Ready for Week 1
Rueben Randle WR Giants Hammers FA Fully Fit 8/16/2015 knee
Jace Amaro TE Jets Paul FA Sidelined 8/13/2015 shoulder Questionable for Week 1
Devin Smith WR Jets Whale FA Sidelined 7/31/2015 ribs Doubtful for Week 1
Stevan Ridley RB Jets Tegal FA Sidelined 4/12/2015 knee surgery Out indefinitely
Clive Walford TE Raiders Usos FA Sidelined 8/26/2015 hamstring Week to Week
Roy Helu RB Raiders Whale FA Fully Fit
8/22/2015 wrist
Zach Ertz TE Eagles Usos Racer Sidelined 8/14/2015 groin Doubtful for Week 1
Martavius Bryant WR Steelers Troopers ? Suspended 8/27/2015 - Return Week 5
Le'Veon Bell RB Steelers Waffles Infatuation Suspended 4/9/2015 - Return Week 3
Antonio Gates TE Chargers Rodriguez Power Suspended 7/2/2015 - Return Week 5
Paul Richardson WR Seahawks Paul FA Sidelined 1/10/2015 knee surgery Doubtful for Week 1
DeAndre Smelter WR 49ers Fairies FA Sidelined 5/9/2015 knee surgery Return Week 7?
Todd Gurley RB Rams Billikids Fools Fully Fit?? 2/18/2015 knee surgery Not listed on Injury report
Mike Evans WR Buccs Waffles ? Sidelined 8/24/2015 hamstring Day to Day
David Cobb RB Titans Paul ? Sidelined 8/28/2015 calf Day to Day
Robert Griffin III QB Skins Rodriguez FA Fully Fit 8/20/2015 concussion
DeSean Jackson WR Skins Fairies Underachievers Fully Fit 8/6/2015 shoulder
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So Tom Brady is no longer suspended...and only a court case can make it so again.

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it's bs, but I'm happy with it on account of Edelman being in my team. 

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Not BS, great ruling... (Said because he is in my teams)
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Tegal wrote:

it's bs, but I'm happy with it on account of Edelman being in my team. 

Oh I have Edelman in my Payslaves team so does make me happy on that count, but still think it's a joke. Especially because all the Pats fans on twitter etc saying "See told you...blah blah" Of course they aren't reading the fact that the Judge didn' even consider the actual offense or evidence, it was only about the process & Punishment. He should've sent it back to the disciplinary committee, and said, do it again...then Brady gets 2 games and its over :P

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Yep, complete bullshark (facing Gronk week one in payslaves). 

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53-Man Roster Cuts

I will just focus on players on our rosters.


Antwan Goodley (FAIR) - The Cowboys cut Goodley today

Vince Mayle (HMEZ) - Dropped by Browns today

Reggie Wayne (HMEZ) - Released by Patriots, sounds like will sign a 1 day contract with Colts and then retire.

Nick Toon (MW) - Released by Saints to IR

Fred Jackson (MW) - Released by Bills, signed 1 year contract with Hawks.

Trent Richardson (FAIR) - Released by Raiders

Tre McBride (MET) - Released by Titans today

Caleb Sturgis (HUYS) - Released by Dolphins...yup my only Kicker...

Other Player News

Brandon LaFell (MET) - LaFell has been placed on the PUP list by Patriots, eligible from Week 8 (Must sit 6 games, not 6 weeks)

Todd Gurley (RMTC) - Gurley will not be active for Week 1

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Montee Ball (MET) - Released by Broncos

Christine Michael (TEGAL) - Traded from Seahawks to Dallas for a cnditional 7th Rd Pick

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WeeNix
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Bugger, should have held on a bit longer.  Oh well, have to hope the guy I picked up in his place is just as good or better.

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Tegal wrote:

Result!

At this point he went from third on depth chart to 4th ?

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