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2022 World Cup in Qatar (or maybe not...)

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over 12 years ago


Why is it that FIFA is rightly perceived as being the most corrupt governing body in the sporting world and yet NOTHING has been done...ever.

Is it because too many federations have waited a long time to get on the gravy train and don't want to rock the boat.

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over 12 years ago
UberGunner wrote:


Why is it that FIFA is rightly perceived as being the most corrupt governing body in the sporting world and yet NOTHING has been done...ever.

Is it because too many federations have waited a long time to get on the gravy train and don't want to rock the boat.

 

Erm, well, yeah...

 

Isn't it also something to do with FIFA being based in Switzerland and that country having laws that make it difficult to prosecute? It's somewhere in Andrew Jennings book.

 

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
The Daily Show:

I have embedded the video and it works when editing my post but not when saved, so use the link provided.
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over 12 years ago

Was something on TV yesterday about something similar. Amnesty International reckon this happens with many foreign workers and their employers also take  their passports.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 12 years ago

They have to qualify first before they can boycott!


Allegedly

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about 12 years ago

Boycott the qualifying maybe?


People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 12 years ago

Against Modern Slavery

At the end of last year, our community was celebrating. 172,407 of us sent messages to FIFA calling on the body to tackle the modern slavery fuelling the 2022 World Cup construction projects in Qatar – and FIFA listened. Joseph ‘Sepp’ Blatter pledged that FIFA would work with the International Trade Union Confederation to improve the unacceptable situation for workers there and we welcomed his declaration that "fair working conditions with a lasting effect must be introduced quickly in Qatar".2

Unfortunately these words have not yet been followed by action.

Latest reports show that migrant workers from Nepal and India continue to die in record numbers on Qatari construction sites since the country won its World Cup bid.3 A new "Worker’s Charter" released by Qatar 2022 organising authorities last month has been acknowledged as a starting point, but falls short of the significant reforms needed to tackle the shocking conditions for migrant workers.4 And at a recent hearing at the European Parliament FIFA was far from reassuring, asking: "What do you expect of a football organisation? FIFA is not the lawmaker in Qatar."5

We expect FIFA to take responsibility for its decision to award the 2022 World Cup to a country with historic issues of worker exploitation and forced labour. In just three days, top FIFA officials meet at their headquarters in Switzerland to discuss World Cup preparations: will you join us in demanding that ending modern slavery in Qatar be top of the agenda?

Call on FIFA President Sepp Blatter to take meaningful action against the modern slavery that is fuelling the Qatar 2022 World Cup.

The Walk Free community helped push FIFA to commit to end worker exploitation; now we have the chance to put that commitment into action. FIFA’s Executive Committee is meeting on Thursday and Friday – top representatives from national football associations around the world will be there and the press will be reporting developments closely, with all eyes on FIFA’s President Sepp Blatter. This is a significant opportunity to get our message heard.

The time has come for FIFA to act – Sepp Blatter must use his influence over World Cup organisers to ensure all future FIFA World Cups are slavery free and that includes Qatar as a top priority.

FIFA should:

Call for an end to the exploitative kafala system in its current form in Qatar, specifically by allowing workers to freely change jobs and leave the country without their employer’s permission.

Demand that fundamental labour rights are protected as a requirement for countries to be selected to host World Cups.

Call on the Qatar 2022 organising authorities to establish a complaints mechanism that allows migrant workers to report abuses and secure justice.

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1 www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3NElpB1_X4 

2 www.fifa.com/worldcup/qatar2022/media/newsid=2227055

3 www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/18/qatar-world-cup-india-migrant-worker-deaths

4 http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/11/sport/football/qatar-2022-workers-charter-football

5 www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/13/fifa-labour-conditions-qatar-world-cup

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almost 12 years ago

As for the £3m, well, that would be the least surprising news of the year. 

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almost 12 years ago

What would it take for the hosting rights to be revoked? More than the latest round of scandal is my guess.

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almost 12 years ago
Fitzy wrote:

What would it take for the hosting rights to be revoked? More than the latest round of scandal is my guess.

Hell to freeze over? Are there any climate change models that predict that happening by 2022?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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almost 12 years ago

Quite a few people calling for a re-vote now...

Some of the pdf files of email exchanges from African football association execs etc asking for money from the Qataris are pretty classic (hosted on the times website but behind a paywall).

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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History


Was at the Blizzard Q&A last night where Jonothan Wilson made an interesting point about the possible ramifications of taking the World Cup off Qatar. In 2022 the proposed League of Nations will be in its third edition, and the document laying out the plan is ambiguous on where the finals series should be held. He made the point that with Qatar's money and alleged links to Platini, that it is not difficult to imagine a tournament in direct competition to the world cup being run in Qatar.

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almost 12 years ago

That would be a loser. I doubt anyone with any credibility would play in a rival Qatari tournament ahead of a World Cup. I wonder if Qatar could sue FIFA for damages if they lose hosting rights? I mean they have already started construction projects on the condition of a World Cup.

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almost 12 years ago
Ryan54 wrote:

I wonder if Qatar could sue FIFA for damages if they lose hosting rights? I mean they have already started construction projects on the condition of a World Cup.

Seems unlikely if the whole reason the tournament was awarded in the first instance was underhand. Although I am sure Qatar would absolutely go for it in the courts. 

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almost 12 years ago
Arsenal wrote:
Ryan54 wrote:

I wonder if Qatar could sue FIFA for damages if they lose hosting rights? I mean they have already started construction projects on the condition of a World Cup.

Seems unlikely if the whole reason the tournament was awarded in the first instance was underhand. Although I am sure Qatar would absolutely go for it in the courts. 

I disagree, I'd say it would be extremely likely that they'd sue. I'd think the only reason they wouldn't sue would be if they receive a settlement from FIFA beforehand.

 

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almost 12 years ago
Fitzy wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Ryan54 wrote:

I wonder if Qatar could sue FIFA for damages if they lose hosting rights? I mean they have already started construction projects on the condition of a World Cup.

Seems unlikely if the whole reason the tournament was awarded in the first instance was underhand. Although I am sure Qatar would absolutely go for it in the courts. 

I disagree, I'd say it would be extremely likely that they'd sue. I'd think the only reason they wouldn't sue would be if they receive a settlement from FIFA beforehand.

 

Would the other countries who have placed bids be able to sue for the millions (in Australia's case AU$45million) spent on their respective bids?

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almost 12 years ago
Bullion wrote:
Fitzy wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Ryan54 wrote:

I wonder if Qatar could sue FIFA for damages if they lose hosting rights? I mean they have already started construction projects on the condition of a World Cup.

Seems unlikely if the whole reason the tournament was awarded in the first instance was underhand. Although I am sure Qatar would absolutely go for it in the courts. 

I disagree, I'd say it would be extremely likely that they'd sue. I'd think the only reason they wouldn't sue would be if they receive a settlement from FIFA beforehand.

 

Would the other countries who have placed bids be able to sue for the millions (in Australia's case AU$45million) spent on their respective bids?

Only if their bids were squeaky clean I imgaine.

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almost 12 years ago
Fitzy wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Ryan54 wrote:

I wonder if Qatar could sue FIFA for damages if they lose hosting rights? I mean they have already started construction projects on the condition of a World Cup.

Seems unlikely if the whole reason the tournament was awarded in the first instance was underhand. Although I am sure Qatar would absolutely go for it in the courts. 

I disagree, I'd say it would be extremely likely that they'd sue. I'd think the only reason they wouldn't sue would be if they receive a settlement from FIFA beforehand.

 

I said Qatar would absolutely go for it in the courts. I think it would be unlikely that they would win though, given the obvious bribery and corruption involved. 

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almost 12 years ago

All the moaning about Qatar now is laughable. It was so obvious at the time.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 12 years ago

To be fair. There was a lot of moaning at the time too. 


Allegedly

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almost 12 years ago

FIFA would love that. More bribes to collect! 


Allegedly

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almost 12 years ago

Shit, the above was just on One News too. Blatter must be squirming slightly.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 12 years ago

I hope no one has booked tickets for Qatar...

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 12 years ago


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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

Blatter says FIFA is the victim of racism and discrimination

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/09/sepp-blatter-storm-fifa-qatar


"Of the top tier [FIFA] sponsors, only Emirates Airlines was silent." [in calling for investigation into Qatar's successful World Cup bid]

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

I hope no one has booked tickets for Qatar...

Id love to watch this in Qatar, mainly because i want to travel there anyway, but im not against FIFA stripping them of it. Id be even more in favour of them losing it if Aussie gained it, but i understand thats off the cards.

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over 11 years ago

Surprise , Surprise ...Everything Hunky Dorey in FIFAland .

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/footballgovernance/02/47/41/75/statementchairmanadjcheckert_neutral.pdf

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over 11 years ago

It just pisses me off that people even care about corruption. 4,000 people are going to die in making the stadiums. Whether or not it was a corrupt process just isn't relevant.

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over 11 years ago

Ryan54 wrote:

It just pisses me off that people even care about corruption. 4,000 people are going to die in making the stadiums. Whether or not it was a corrupt process just isn't relevant.

Spotlight now turning on Australia's failed $45 mill bid acc to Fox News latest.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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