Argentina vs Germany

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I could never lower myself to support a German team but, yes, from their first game they have looked very, very impressive - even in that 10 man loss to Serbia. Hard to see anyone stopping them now.

As for Maradona he's just going to have to suck it and keep on sucking it.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

linds wrote:

Too many attack midfielders and forwards not enough defensive ones for the Argies. Pastore, Di Maria and Higuain were easily beaten for the third.

Maradona expected Mascherano to cover everything, as good as Mascherano is he can't cover Ozil, Schweinsteiger, Khedira, Muller. Esteban Cambiasso really should have been in this team.

This. I mean, pretty obvious, but it was such a clear weakness in their team, and you knew a better team would exploit the (huge) gaps in midfield at some point.

Diego

I was pretty sure Germany would win, tbh, but what a performance. Never by that margin. But still, come on Spain! Going to be an extremely tough game.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

my word the germans are good to watch, sublime stuff

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

absolutely fantastic! so happy with that win

Loew got his tactics spot on in that one, Boateng and Lahm defended very narrowly, and let Di Maria and Rodriguez swing pointless cross after cross into the penalty area - and onto the heads of the two 6'5"ish CB's.

Find it beyond hilarious that Messi couldn't get a goal all world cup

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

oh and I'm pissed about Muellers yellow considering Di Maria didn't get a yellow for his handball on roughly 2 mins which was far more blatant and intentional than Muellers

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

francsernal wrote:

oh and I'm pissed about Muellers yellow considering Di Maria didn't get a yellow for his handball on roughly 2 mins which was far more blatant and intentional than Muellers

I thought that was crap too. Consistancy would be nice.

Germany are just too good. I love watching them play, I hope they win the whole thing. They deserve it.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

He's allowed to be a joke tbf. World Cup winner in 2002. Golden boot in 2002. Golden ball in 1998. Those accolades entitle you to be a joke whenever you like.

Remember it's about goals scored, not player of the tournament.

If Germany win this Cup, then Klose will have two out of three, with the Golden Ball still up for grabs. That's not bad. And the way he's going, he could well have two Golden Shoes. That's consistency.

His record is currently 2002 - 5 goals, 2006 - 5 (Golden shoe), 2010 - 4.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Ronaldo got 8 goals at the 2002 World Cup, including two in the final. Beat that Miroslav.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

StopOut wrote:

I could never lower myself to support a German team but, yes, from their first game they have looked very, very impressive - even in that 10 man loss to Serbia. Hard to see anyone stopping them now.

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As for Maradona he's just going to have to suck it and keep on sucking it.

Could'nt happen to a nicer bloke.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Leggy wrote:

StopOut wrote:

I could never lower myself to support a German team but, yes, from their first game they have looked very, very impressive - even in that 10 man loss to Serbia. Hard to see anyone stopping them now.

As for Maradona he's just going to have to suck it and keep on sucking it.

Could'nt happen to a nicer bloke.

Maradona is ten times the man you could ever be.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

StopOut wrote:

I could never lower myself to support a German team but, yes, from their first game they have looked very, very impressive - even in that 10 man loss to Serbia. Hard to see anyone stopping them now.

ï¿½

As for Maradona he's just going to have to suck it and keep on sucking it.

Could'nt happen to a nicer bloke.

Maradona is ten times the man you could ever be.

I have never had a drug problem, or been a cheat. I also don't owe the government any tax. Not millions of euros anyway.
He was a great player, but a better man, I don't think
so.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Leggy wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

StopOut wrote:

I could never lower myself to support a German team but, yes, from their first game they have looked very, very impressive - even in that 10 man loss to Serbia. Hard to see anyone stopping them now.

As for Maradona he's just going to have to suck it and keep on sucking it.

Could'nt happen to a nicer bloke.

Maradona is ten times the man you could ever be.

I have never had a drug problem, or been a cheat. I also don't owe the government any tax. Not millions of euros anyway.
He was a great player, but a better man, I don't think
so.

Not just great, try greatest player of all time. Single handedly (f**k off with your puns here) won Argentina the 1986 World Cup and single handedly drove an average Napoli side to the Scudetto in 1987. Also worshiped as a god by every Argentinian the world round. So yeah, he can snort all the coke he likes, he's earnt it.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

StopOut wrote:

I could never lower myself to support a German team but, yes, from their first game they have looked very, very impressive - even in that 10 man loss to Serbia. Hard to see anyone stopping them now.

ï¿½

As for Maradona he's just going to have to suck it and keep on sucking it.

Could'nt happen to a nicer bloke.

Maradona is ten times the man you could ever be.

I have never had a drug problem, or been a cheat. I also don't owe the government any tax. Not millions of euros anyway.
He was a great player, but a better man, I don't think
so.

Your opinion that he is the greatest ever. Do you know what a pun is?

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

He was voted best player of the 20th century by over 50% of fans on FIFA.com. Pele was second, only receiving around 20% of the votes. So not just my opinion.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:

He was voted best player of the 20th century by over 50% of fans on FIFA.com. Pele was second, only receiving around 20% of the votes. So not just my opinion.

I said he was a great player- and you spat the dummie.
What did I say that was a pun?

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

You didn't. It was a precursor in case anyone responded with a pun.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

You didn't. It was a precursor in case anyone responded with a pun.

No problem.

Germany to win final?

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Have to get past Spain first. I understand why Germany are favourites based on the way both teams have played so far at this World Cup but can't understand why many are readily writing Spain off so easily.

A Germany-Holland final has the potential to be a classic, and i think Germany would have the better of them.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:

Have to get past Spain first. I understand why Germany are favourites based on the way both teams have played so far at this World Cup but can't understand why many are readily writing Spain off so easily.A Germany-Holland final has the potential to be a classic, and i think Germany would have the better of them.

I don't think that Spain have played their best by any means. If the Germans beat them, then they will be too strong for the Dutch. Apart from being good players, they are so athletic.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Leggy wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Have to get past Spain first. I understand why Germany are favourites based on the way both teams have played so far at this World Cup but can't understand why many are readily writing Spain off so easily.A Germany-Holland final has the potential to be a classic, and i think Germany would have the better of them.

I don't think that Spain have played their best by any means. If the Germans beat them, then they will be too strong for the Dutch. Apart from being good players, they are so athletic.

Can't write off Spain at all. It's a contrast to the Euro champs two years ago where Spain were clearly the best team the whole tournament and Germany / Russia were next best. This time Germany are looking the best - I think most people realise that Spain can do better than they have done, but I have to base my opinion on what I've seen over the last few weeks. Even if Spain do bring their a-game, it'd still be a close match. If they don't, then the Germans will surely win.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Maybe one thing in Spain's favour is that Germany play an expansive, attacking game which should allow Spain a lot more freedom to counterattack themselves. Most of Spain's matches so far have seen them up against packed defences as teams try to shut down their obviously lethal attacking mids and grab a goal on the break.

Could even be a high scoring affair, but I still think the Germans will prevail.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

StopOut wrote:

I could never lower myself to support a German team but, yes, from their first game they have looked very, very impressive - even in that 10 man loss to Serbia. Hard to see anyone stopping them now.

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As for Maradona he's just going to have to suck it and keep on sucking it.

This. The German bit.

Although strangely I feel quite sorry for Maradona.

Will be a great semi-final between Germany and Spain - I'd lean heavily towards the Germans.

And as much as i'd prefer to see Holland beat Germany in the final I think these young "turks" will be too much for them.

Could never support them but the football has been pretty flawless.

"Phoenix till they lose"

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Who's Turkish in the squad bar Ozil? Or does 'turk' just mean young person and I'm too much of a 'turk' to realize it?

I bet the Germans are hoping that Torres gets the nod to start the match. I seriously think Germany have been far more impressive but I also think that Spain can play a lot better than they've been playing - and Germany were shown to be beatable by Serbia. So should be a great game.

I await the verdict of Paul the Octopus with baited breath.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Young Turks = a radical group of bright young things in an organisation.

I really hate that octopus. It's all his fault.

"Phoenix till they lose"

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

What Buffy said in defence of Maradona. He is the man. The worst part about the Argy game was him in tears near the end as his team got destroyed. Awful. What a man. And yeah, the best player ever.

And yip, lots of people are writing Spain off. I'm hoping the Germans have peaked and Spain are building nicely for the final- clutching at straws a bit though! Going to be an interesting match nonetheless.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Germans don't peak EN. They just ruthlessly grind their opponents into submission one game at a time. I'd still fancy Spain to beat them, but Del Bosque should drop Torres who is clearly unfit and try switch things up a bit in attack, otherwise if they're too predictable and one dimensional they will get done.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yeah, fair call... Mmm. Time to let Villa run the show up front (rather than from the left wing)!

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El-Niï¿½o wrote:

What Buffy said in defence of Maradona. He is the man. The worst part about the Argy game was him in tears near the end as his team got destroyed. Awful. What a man. And yeah, the best player ever.

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Yeah, but the Germans have an octopus and your lot just have a Catalan Donkey.

"Phoenix till they lose"

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Torres is Castillian isn't he ?

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Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

StopOut wrote:

I could never lower myself to support a German team but, yes, from their first game they have looked very, very impressive - even in that 10 man loss to Serbia. Hard to see anyone stopping them now.

As for Maradona he's just going to have to suck it and keep on sucking it.

Could'nt happen to a nicer bloke.

Maradona is ten times the man you could ever be.

I have never had a drug problem, or been a cheat. I also don't owe the government any tax. Not millions of euros anyway.
He was a great player, but a better man, I don't think
so.

That's one hell of a dodgy outlook Buffy. What you've just said is if you are one of the top five footballers of all time*, you are allowed to take illegal drugs? Cheat on your wife? Abandon your child - who had to wait until he was 17 to even meet dad? Not pay your taxes? Take performance enhancing drugs? Maradona is guilty of all these.

And you also presumably defend other players who break the law or do despicable stuff on the basis of how good they are at football. Extending beyond football, I trust your consistency also concludes OJ Simpson should never have been put on trial for murder or be in prison currently, as one of NFL's best running backs - or does this allowed lawlessness only apply to gifted exponents of one sport?

*He's certainly up there as one of the all-time greats. Pele, Di Stefano, Puskas, Maradona are all in the top five... pointless to think about where he would place. Different eras with different levels of television coverage, which pretty much bias the running order in itself. As countless football polls have discovered, the more recent players tend to command a disproportionate level of votes relative.

So, as a player, yeah one of the best ever. As a human being, a more dislikeable person is hard to imagine.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Maradona hasn't killed anyone, so it's very easy to imagine more dislikeable people. Also loads of people take drugs, doesn't make them bad. Also lots of people cheat on their partners, people on here go on about it like it's worse than cancer. Doesn't Terry dodge taxes? Or his brother? Abandoning your child is poor form though, i hope he has done his best to make up for it or i'd be disappointed.

Good day.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Just because Maradona was the greatest footballer ever, doesn't make him "ten times the man" that Leggy is. Now I don't know Leggy from a bar of soap, but I'd be surprised if he had as many personal failings as Maradona. I didn't know the definition of being a man was being a great footballer. If that's the case I should hand in my man badge.

But hey, I like Maradona. He's the sort of colourful character that makes sport more intriging. I hope he continues to be prominent in the game.

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SiNZ wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

StopOut wrote:

I could never lower myself to support a German team but, yes, from their first game they have looked very, very impressive - even in that 10 man loss to Serbia. Hard to see anyone stopping them now.

ï¿½

As for Maradona he's just going to have to suck it and keep on sucking it.

Could'nt happen to a nicer bloke.

Maradona is ten times the man you could ever be.

I have never had a drug problem, or been a cheat. I also don't owe the government any tax. Not millions of euros anyway. He was a great player, but a better man, I don't think so.

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That'sï¿½one hell of aï¿½dodgy outlook Buffy. What you've just said isï¿½if you are one of the top five footballers of all time*, you are allowed to take illegal drugs? Cheat on your wife? Abandon your child - who had to wait until he was 17 to even meet dad? Not pay your taxes? Take performance enhancing drugs? Maradona is guilty of all these.

ï¿½

And you also presumably defend other players who break the law or do despicable stuff on the basis of how good they are at football. Extending beyond football, I trust your consistency also concludes OJ Simpson should never have been put on trial for murder or be in prison currently,ï¿½as one of NFL's best running backs - or does this allowed lawlessness only apply to gifted exponents of one sport?

ï¿½

*He's certainly up there as one of the all-time greats. Pele, Di Stefano, Puskas, Maradona are all in the top five... pointless to think about where he would place. Different eras with different levels of television coverage, which pretty muchï¿½bias the running order in itself. As countless football polls have discovered, the more recent players tend to command a disproportionate level of votes relative.

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So, as a player, yeah one of the best ever. As a human being, a more dislikeable person is hard to imagine.

You forgot that he shot at reporters with a pellet gun.

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Is shooting at reporters a bad thing? A public service I would've thought.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

StopOut wrote:

Is shooting at reporters a bad thing? A public service I would've thought.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

StopOut wrote:

Is shooting at reporters a bad thing? A public service I would've thought.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I could nominate some...

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hey, this isn't the media angst thread!

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

All threads are angst but...

"Phoenix till they lose"

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Young Turks = Rod Stewart

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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