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FFA's plans foe A-L & WC bid

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FFA's plans foe A-L & WC bid

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Matthew Hall
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FOOTBALL Federation Australia has confirmed it intends to launch a formal bid to host the 2018 FIFA World Cup as part of an "ambitious agenda" for the organisation over the next four years.

FFA boss Ben Buckley, speaking to The Sun-Herald before the Socceroos kick off the 2010 World Cup qualifying campaign against Qatar in Melbourne on Wednesday, unveiled plans for this year that include A-League expansion and a national youth league.

"We have an extremely ambitious agenda over the next three or four years," Buckley said. "We are serious about bidding for 2018 and are currently conducting a major audit of the infrastructure within Australia."

Buckley revealed FFA has commissioned consulting firm PriceWaterhouseCoopers to deliver a report by April outlining to what extent Australian facilities meet FIFA requirements for hosting what is perhaps the world's biggest sporting event.

"We are also looking at everything from the number of training venues to accommodation in each potential host location, to transport issues and the public infrastructure that needs to be in place," Buckley said.

"I think we have as good a chance as anyone who is in the running, and we have made it known to FIFA that we have an ambition to host it. We have certainly had nothing but encouragement to do that."

Buckley also revealed next season's A-League could kick off with two new teams, with FFA waiting on financial reports from consortia in Townsville and Gold Coast before granting admission.

"There are two very strong proposals on the table from Townsville and the Gold Coast," he said. "We are still awaiting more information on their financial models and the capital backing they would have to start up. We expect to get those answers in the next 10 days.

"It is possible there could be two new teams next season, there could be one and there could be none. That's not sitting on the fence, we just need to make sure that we don't have two teams come in to the league that will later be a financial burden on the existing teams.

"If they can tick the right boxes, then it is a real chance to happen. We have done some planning on the fixtures for a nine-team competition and a 10-team competition.

"We need to expand cautiously because we don't want to weaken what is a growing competition. The most important factor is having A-League teams in major population centres so that participants in those regions can connect to a high-profile, professional competition week in, week out."

Buckley denied a recent assertion by Socceroos coach Pim Verbeek - that players training with top clubs in Europe were of more use to the Socceroos than their A-League counterparts - was damaging to the reputation of the developing Australian competition.

"Pim was talking specifically about two high-quality international players playing in a extremely high-level environment and that those players were still ahead of some of the guys in the A-League," Buckley said.

"He has been to many A-League games and has been a great advocate for how it is helping build the game in Australia - the way it is bringing crowds out and turning that big participation base into supporting teams. He has been surprised by the strength of following and depth of passion from the crowds."

Plans are also in place to raise the A-League salary cap by about $100,000 per team next season.

"The salary cap plays an important role in making sure the game operates within its means and we have a level playing field," he said.

"You can see that the way the competition panned out this year. It was anyone's title right down to the last round, which was fantastic for crowds and interest right across the country. If a fan can start any year believing their team has the potential to win the title, that will breed greater interest in the game and a greater following in the competition."

While the Socceroos' 2010 World Cup campaign will take up most space on the public's radar, Australia's under-23 men's team will compete at the Beijing Olympics in August and the Matildas will back up from last year's impressive performance at the Women's World Cup with the Women's Asian Cup in Malaysia in May. Sydney will also host the prestigious FIFA Congress in May, with up to 2000 delegates expected to attend, including the world governing body's executive committee that decides hosting rights for future World Cups.

Importantly for the local game, the A-League's fourth season will kick off later this year in tandem with a long-awaited national youth competition with teams representing all Australian-A-League clubs.

In the seven-team competition - Wellington Phoenix are excluded - youth players, including top-level prospects attached to the Australian Institute of Sport, will be contracted to A-League sides.

The format is to get young players playing 35 to 40 games a year, which their counterparts around the world are doing at a crucial development period, Buckley said. "That will, over time, help build better quality players for our national team � and it helps the A-League clubs build out their playing rosters with the best quality junior players in the country.

"We have overwhelming support from the clubs to introduce it."

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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interesting stuff midfielder

esp - "Plans are also in place to raise the A-League salary cap by about $100,000 per team next season."

not a lot by European standards but none-the-less the a-league need to get it sorted so clubs can budget and recruit

and yep World cup in Aus  -we've discussed it on  here before - we're quite keen really
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Whats with the Nix not being in the youth comp?
Surely only good can come from us being involved, for both club and country.
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We weren't invited.  There are threads on it already.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Smithy wrote:
We weren't invited.  There are threads on it already.
 
Did we try? Piss poor. And lighten up matey
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Sounds like we were excluded from the youth comp.
Can we get conformation from Phoenix management that the FFA stopped us from fielding a team. Or were we invited but could'nt find the $$$. Looks like the Aussies shafted us .
 
Having a Phoenix side in the youth comp is SO important for youth develpment in NZ.
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Well, we definately don't have the dollars for it now anyway. I heard that they would've thought about it if NZF fronted up with the cash but because of the inept morons running our game we now have no chance.
valeo2008-02-03 14:09:56

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Apparently Phoenix asked for $300,000 which NZF said they could not find.
 
I'm still a bit confused though.
 
Did the FFA invite the Phoenix to participate in the youth comp or were we excluded?
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You were excluded because (on a number of previous threads) the youth league is funded by the Commonwealth Government. Essentially it is costing the A-League clubs almost nothing.

 

Without going into the rights & wrongs of it all, given it was the "Australian Commonwealth Government Funding"  the FFA could not give a foreign country money to develop their juniors, simple as. The funding to the FFA was tired to Australian clubs only, by the Australian Commonwealth Government.

 

What this clearly shows is the Australian government has finally realized the potential for football across a number of areas including, tourism, trade, political connections, and generally a sharing of cultures with our Asian neighbours. The new labour government has allocated 32 million dollars for the youth and women�s teams over the next four years on top funding for the AIS (Australian Institute of Sport).

 

Where as the plight of NZ football, is a disgrace, to who ever is running the NZ government, sorry YF if I come on a bit at your government and I am Aussie, but the international matches you guys have played over the last eighteen months or so done many times more good than the advertising your government has paid for to promote NZ.

 

From afar it seems the NZ government spent the crown jewels on the All Blacks and yet I guess would find every reason under the sun not to assist football. So F unfair, for what would amount to petty cash, nay even less than petty cash, the NZ government could assist pay the piddling amount of money it is to a government and try to assist the sport.

 

More players than union especially the young, men�s and women�s.  Promotes a good healthy lifestyle.

 

Get mad at the government, I am not a rat bag socialist either its just the F union gets heaps, spread / share some of the governments good will.

 

Sorry rant over about your government and sorry if I offended anyone.

 

Midfielder2008-02-03 17:18:24

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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dont worry too much about bagging our government midfielder. we all do it and it seems your pretty spot on with your opinions


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I hope Aus get the world cup in 2018. It'd do a heap for their game, but would also be positive for ours seeing as we are their neighbours. And it gives me an excuse to tour Aussie.
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In addition to spending the Crown jewels on rugby, you forgot the Americas Cup Midfielder.  Congratulations on the foresight shown by your government, and best of luck with 2018.

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In addition to spending the Crown jewels on rugby, you forgot the Americas Cup Midfielder.  Congratulations on the foresight shown by your government, and best of luck with 2018.

 
Yeah, the Americas Cup: that's a financial black hole the NZ govt's been chucking cash into for years. Admittedly Oz has a lot more money at its disposal for developing football than NZ but at least it can see the bigger picture, and realised some time ago that football is truly the global game. In economic terms that governments understand (smart ones anyway) football is an investment.
 
This is why the success of the Phoenix is so important, and why the whole venture is so exciting. Because if the club succeeds both on and off the field (coupled perhaps with a decent WC run by the All Whites), bringing support, media hype, marketing tie-ins and, of course MONEY, then eventually the bean counters in the govt will sit up and take notice, slap their balding pointy heads and say, hey!, if we chuck some cash at this poofters game we might actually get it back ten or even twentyfold down the track.
 
Probably being hopelessly optimistic of course, just that sometimes I get gripped with this dizzying post-1982 feeling that anything is possible for NZ football!
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Stop out I hope your dream comes true one day 2010 would be nice.

Axmfc you are right about the Americas Cup, and what I cannot understand is who in their right minds thinks anyone gives a flying F about the AC. Its a mutli billionaires sport, nay play thing and meeting place. 

 

We don't in OZ the only time we ever watched it was when the yatch club in the states made such a big fuss about loosing it. But in the US at the time, their media and people in the US were also cheering us on. It was about the rich not getting their way it not about the race, just beating those rich B��.d�s. The whole world feels the same way.

Midfielder2008-02-04 02:08:15

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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Sorry to rub this in about government  getting behind football, on top of the 32 million + AIS from the commonwealth government.
 
How about this just relased.
 
 
Bligh government sets new sponsorship standards with Roar
Sunday, 3 February 2008

The Queensland Premier kicks off new Government sponsorship deal
qldroar.com.au � qldroar.com.au

QUEENSLAND Roar are winners even before Friday night�s home leg of the minor semi-final after State Premier Anna Bligh today committed her government�s support in the shape of an historic three-year, $1.5 million sponsorship deal with the club.

Premier Bligh said: �My government�s committed to a three-year $1.5 million sponsorship deal with Queensland Roar � but there�s a catch!

�In return the Roar will be ambassadors for multiculturism in Queensland.

�As well, we want them hosting an annual Roar Against Racism International match and to continue delivering their highly successful State-wide junior coaching clinics.

�That match�s appeal is an example of how popular sporting teams can break down the barriers on issues like racism.

�Football is regarded as the �World Game� and not only across the world is it played by more countries than any other sport; in Queensland it has the most ethnically diverse participants.

�The Roar, as part of this agreement, will work with the Government to influence Football Federation Australia to allocate more international matches in Queensland. With the appeal of football on the international stage, particularly in the Asian region, the Roar will play an important role in our trade portfolio, especially with visiting delegations.�

The sponsorship includes a key element for the Roar to enforce its player behaviour standards, said Premier Bligh.

�Tens of thousands of young Queenslanders are influenced by the actions of their sporting heroes.

�From time to time sportspeople make mistakes. This player behaviour standard element is not the government playing a big brother role, rather it�s a reminder � as beneficiaries of public support � about acceptable behaviour.

�This also builds on our $200,000 statewide campaign aimed at lifting the standard of behaviour at Queensland junior sporting events.

�The �True Sport Lives Here� program ensures children have fun by instilling a culture of good sports behaviour both on and off the field.

�A number of Queensland�s sporting heroes, including the Roar�s Matt McKay, are Ambassadors of True Sport representing integrity, respect, fun, responsibility and excellence in sport.

�The Roar, by making the A-League semi-finals (and hopefully the finals) have shown they are the equal of any Hyundai A-League team and we as a Government want them to build on that.

�Beyond the playing field they have shown a lead when it comes to multicultural and junior development.

�Already the State, via Multicultural Affairs Queensland, has teamed up with Queensland Roar for the �Roar Against Racism� showdowns � including an international match against the South African Premier League team, SuperSport United last year.

�We want that to continue and have sought, as part of this arrangement, for the Roar to have a similar game each year in Queensland.

�This sponsorship sits well the Roar�s existing Refugee Program � a partnership between the Roar, Education Queensland and Brisbane City Council involving six schools using football to break down barriers.

�Queensland Roar, in a relatively short time, has shown a real international flavour with players from Korea, Brazil, Germany and Scotland in their present team.�

Midfielder2008-02-04 02:09:25

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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After reading "midfielders" comments about Govt support for football in Australia I feel ill. ....Good on them though!!! It does make you wonder about what goes on in NZ.

NZ govt put $30 million into the America's Cup campaign and are putting $190 million into the Eden Park World Cup upgrade(the new 60,000 capacity will be used for a handful of games and then reduced back to 50,000 permanent seats, which is only 3000 more than current capacity) They cancel our WC qualifier against Fiji and refuse to help out with the loss incured

On a more positive note if Australia got the World Cup it would be huge for NZ as well. The game would get heaps of publicity.Many teams would use NZ for a pre tournament training  base. There would be lots of teams wanting to play warm up games against the All Whites and other NZ teams.
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If the Queensland govt can do all that for the Roar, how about the Wellington City Council doing something on a smaller scale - like investing in a Nix youth team in the A-League?
 
It would be money well spent considering how much the WCC will make from the Nix in the years to come. All those lovely dollars flowing into the Cake Tin at a time of year the stadium would otherwise stand empty. 
 
Could we have a bit of it back?
 
(In case I've done them a disservice, anyone know how much the WCC currently contributes to the cause?)
 
   
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WCC only managed to cough up around a third of the cost of bringing Beckham and the Galaxy here! that seems to be a sizable amount from a council.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Can't see the Aussie government being willing to put $1b into a world cup bid...   That's the absolute minimum investment that would have to be made on stadiums.  Then they'd have to update infrastructure, transport and accomodation, before FIFA would take the bid seriously.
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Hey Midfielder, it's not just the AB's our Government wastes money on, they give the rich pricks of the america's cup 30 million too! Two sports that can support themselves and the government kisses their arses, yet other sports end up resorting to sausage sizzles at Countdown as there's "not enough money to go around".
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Can't see the Aussie government being willing to put $1b into a world cup bid...   That's the absolute minimum investment that would have to be made on stadiums.  Then they'd have to update infrastructure, transport and accomodation, before FIFA would take the bid seriously.
 
Sorry mate they are, last year at an annual event when the PM & State leaders get together, they all said it will be a national bid.
 
They see the pay back, and the billions needed would only be spent if bid was  successful.
 
We also plan to bid for the 2014 Asian games as well.
 
Lonegunmen  it's not just the AB's our Government wastes money on, they give the rich pricks of the america's cup 30 million too! Two sports that can support themselves and the government kisses their arses, yet other sports end up resorting to sausage sizzles at Countdown as there's "not enough money to go around".
 
 Mate I feel sorry for you guys. Maybe someone should start  a political party with the name support other sports.
Midfielder2008-02-05 22:45:24

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...and FIFA will prefer an Aus bid to China or England ?

Market, times, TV audiences, no Europe for 12 years...  watch for FIFA to find a sop for Aus to have them withdraw from the race, probably a promise of 2022 or 2026.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News even if we fail and as youi said there is still 2022 & 2026, it requiries Commonwealth & State government support for football and that as much as anything else is part of the reason for governments change of heart towards football.
 
Thus funding, business connections, influence, even if Australia does not win football does

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...and FIFA will prefer an Aus bid to China or England ?

Market, times, TV audiences, no Europe for 12 years...  watch for FIFA to find a sop for Aus to have them withdraw from the race, probably a promise of 2022 or 2026.


if you're right HN (and it has been known), some of us better start looking after ourselves now to ensure we can spend our pension money on duty free and match tickets
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Midfielder wrote:
Hard News even if we fail and as youi said there is still 2022 & 2026, it requiries Commonwealth & State government support for football and that as much as anything else is part of the reason for governments change of heart towards football.
 
Thus funding, business connections, influence, even if Australia does not win football does


I never thought I'd say this but  -"Advance Australia Fair"!!

good luck for getting it (the earlier the better!!)
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You can delete "fair" Tigers!

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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I very much doubt that Aussie will get the World Cup in 2018 - I think this is just to make FIFA stand up and notice them so they have a very good chance in 2022. 

a.haak

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Midfielder wrote:
The Queensland Premier kicks off new Government sponsorship deal

The sponsorship includes a key element for the Roar to enforce its player behaviour standards, said Premier Bligh.

�Tens of thousands of young Queenslanders are influenced by the actions of their sporting heroes.

�From time to time sportspeople make mistakes. This player behaviour standard element is not the government playing a big brother role, rather it�s a reminder � as beneficiaries of public support � about acceptable behaviour.



So does that mean they're dumping that thug Danny Tiatto next season?
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hope so, if you could describe a toe rag,- Tiatto would be a good model. Midfielder2008-02-06 02:47:06

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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Midfielder wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Can't see the Aussie government being willing to put $1b into a world cup bid...   That's the absolute minimum investment that would have to be made on stadiums.  Then they'd have to update infrastructure, transport and accomodation, before FIFA would take the bid seriously.
 
Sorry mate they are, last year at an annual event when the PM & State leaders get together, they all said it will be a national bid.
 
They see the pay back, and the billions needed would only be spent if bid was  successful.
 
Certainly hope so, but there's an enormous difference between saying, "we'll back a world cup bid", and stumping up for new 40-50k stadiums in Perth, Adelaide and Newcastle, etc.
 
I look forward to the bun-fight between Sydney and Melbourne for the right to host the final.
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You can delete "fair" Tigers!


Yep OOE, it's going to be really hard to pretend to like the FFA until  2026




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Tigers the budget has been done and grounds selected.
 
10 Stadiums of 40, 000 plus, with 2 being over 60, 000.
 
Stadiums already meeting standard,
 
1. Brisbane
2 & 3 Sydney -Homebush (Olympic) Aussie needs minor work to have ready
4 & 5 Melbourne - The Dome & MCG
6 - Perth
 
To Develop
 
7 Newcastle
8 Hindmarsh - but back to its orginal concept
9  undecided but maybe second Brisbane team - Lang Park
10 Extentisions to Parramatta
 
 

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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perhaps we could offer to help out 

Her Majesty Kerry Prenderghast probably has the nous to see the benefits for Wellington (even if our central government are still wet behind the ears)


and no this is not an endorsment for HMKP - her fish museum fetish is only one of her failings  - but she does know how to sniff out a dollar and right now football is the new kid on the marketing block


btw Midfielder - i think it was Benjamin that was querying the feasibility of the bid - i think you'll get it (but prob after 2018)
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Tigers the budget has been done and grounds selected.
 
10 Stadiums of 40, 000 plus, with 2 being over 60, 000.
 
Stadiums already meeting standard,
 
1. Brisbane
2 & 3 Sydney -Homebush (Olympic) Aussie needs minor work to have ready
4 & 5 Melbourne - The Dome & MCG
6 - Perth
 
To Develop
 
7 Newcastle
8 Hindmarsh - but back to its orginal concept
9  undecided but maybe second Brisbane team - Lang Park
10 Extentisions to Parramatta 
 
FIFA rules state that only one city may have two stadia - so either rule out SFS or TelstraDome, and don't even think of adding a second Brisbane venue.
 
FIFA rules also state that the venues must be devoid of all non-World Cup related events for a month prior to the competition, and for the duration of the competition - so rule out any venue required for AFL (unless you believe the FFA could talk the AFL into suspending the season for two months, or switching games to smaller stadia).
 
If Aussie wants to host we have to put something irresistable together for FIFA, something considerably better than meeting the minimum standard - so that would require new 'rectangular' stadia in Canberra, Newcastle and possibly Townsville.  The new Gold Coast stadium is a good bet for extension.
 
As Subiaco is going to be demolished once the new Perth Stadium is up, there would need to be another venue over there as well (because the new Perth venue is for AFL and I can't see Fremantle and West Coast switching games to the WACA).
 
FIFA is also very keen on the game benefitting all parts of the country.  In order to swing votes Germany built a 50k seater stadium for a club that has an average attendance of less than 5k (simply because there were no other major stadia in that region).  So that could lead to the need for something in Tasmania.
 
There's not enough room around Hindmarch to turn it into a 40k venue, so they'd have to build something new - best sight I can think of is to rebuild Santos stadium.
 
One more thing - FIFA doesn't like temporary stands, so construction has to be for 40-50k venues, rather than 30k with temp seating on one side to pump capacity up.
 
Like I said, hope it happens, but everything I've seen indicates a 'minimum standards' bid - which won't cut it when put up against England, China, the Netherlands & Belgium, Mexico and probably the USA.
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Benjamin, maybe but its a bit off track.
 
Every government is helping with the bid, evry government in doing that is trying to help football.
 
To help football means, funding, business connections, influence.
 
Then read Commonwealth giving an extra 32 million over 4 years, Old gov giving Rpar 1.5 mill, Qld, NSW & Vic in a bidding war to get Socceroo matches live into Asia.
 
So even if we loose the bid, football actually still wins in many ways.
 
Also the timing of the bid was made the day the NRL announanced their 100 year thing, well guess what was back page story in Sydney.
 
Also released just prior to tonights match means extra coveraghe and press inches for football.
 
I hope we get it, ..............and remember we beat both China & England for the 2000 olympics. 
 
 

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Can we go back to posting things in the correct part of the Forum please!

This is NOT Wellington Phoenix Discussion...

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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It could be a joint bid with NZ and Australia, as Japan and South Korea did.

With the trans-national A-League it seems a logical step ...

Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch could all host games.

Smithy, move this to another forum if you think it belongs there!
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Sounds extremely unlikely Bevan, but that would be absolutely brilliant if it happened.
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Midfielder wrote:

Benjamin, maybe but its a bit off track. I thought the conversation was about an Aussie world cup bid, that's what I was talking about

 
Every government is helping with the bid, evry government in doing that is trying to help football.
To help football means, funding, business connections, influence.
 
Then read Commonwealth giving an extra 32 million over 4 years, Old gov giving Rpar 1.5 mill, Qld, NSW & Vic in a bidding war to get Socceroo matches live into Asia.
 
So even if we loose the bid, football actually still wins in many ways. All true and all excellent, I just don't want to get carried away with talk of the cup coming down under - so I keep reminding myself (and anyone else in range) of the realities on a simple stadium level.
 
Also the timing of the bid was made the day the NRL announanced their 100 year thing, well guess what was back page story in Sydney.
 
Also released just prior to tonights match means extra coveraghe and press inches for football. all good, anything to keep the real game in the spotlight (I was stunned to see almost two pages of positive football news in the Herald Sun the other day).
 
I hope we get it, ..............and remember we beat both China & England for the 2000 olympics.  Olympics requires ONE city to have facilities up to scratch, World Cup requires at least seven - much taller order.  Be honest, how many Aussie cities really need a 40k stadium?

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Here's hoping they get the bid right and don't make themselves a laughing stock.  Very important to make the right impression on FIFA.  Anyone who's read "Foul" will know how important making friends on the FIFA committee is.

 

[QUOTE=Bevan]It could be a joint bid with NZ and Australia, as Japan and South Korea did.

With the trans-national A-League it seems a logical step ...

Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch could all host games.

Smithy, move this to another forum if you think it belongs there!

Forgive my ignorance of New Zealand, but is there any call for 40k seater stadiums in each of those cities?  Especially as FIFA doesn't like oval/athletic venues (allegedly)
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