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FIFA U20 World Cup Korea 2017

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almost 9 years ago

Vanuatu came from 2 down to be 2-2 with Mexico, until a 94th minute goal gave the Tricolor the victory!

And England beat Argentina 3-0 #dontmentionthewar

Venezuela beat Germany 2-0!

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almost 9 years ago

Wow, great effort from Vanuatu. Always great to see an Island team being able to compete against international oposition

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almost 9 years ago · edited almost 9 years ago · History

Global Game wrote:

Vanuatu came from 2 down to be 2-2 with Mexico, until a 94th minute goal gave the Tricolor the victory!

And England beat Argentina 3-0 #dontmentionthewar

Venezuela beat Germany 2-0!

England's first win at the u20 world cup since 1997, scorer that day was Michael Owen!

Ronaldo Wilkins who scored for Vanuatu spent a couple seasons at the Nix academy at Scots College, so we can claim him.
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almost 9 years ago

Gooooooooooooooooooooal Zambia! Bit harsh on the Portuguese keeper, did well to get a hand to it but palmed it straight into the path of a Zambian player

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almost 9 years ago

2-0 Zambia!!

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almost 9 years ago

Portugal get one back in added time, probably too little too late tho. 2-1

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almost 9 years ago

South Africa take the early lead against Japan

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almost 9 years ago

Ecuador up 2-0 against the USA in quick time

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almost 9 years ago

USA pull one back, game on

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almost 9 years ago

Absolute shocker from Klinsmann Jr 

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almost 9 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Absolute shocker from Klinsmann Jr 

No left boot obviously.

USA rescue a point in stoppage time, 3-3.

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almost 9 years ago

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almost 9 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

ouch

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almost 9 years ago

Meanwhile England manage to score an own goal from the half way line! ??

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almost 9 years ago

Liam Jordan playing for Sth Africa v Italy at the moment

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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almost 9 years ago

  

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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almost 9 years ago

TAB offering Germany -5.5 goals vs Vanuatu at $1.80, they obviously expecting a bit of a massacre. Guess Germany needs to help their GD to try and get up to second?

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almost 9 years ago

Vanuatu coming back...Germany 3 Vanuatu 2 with 10 mins to go 

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almost 9 years ago

Fantastic effort by the Vanuatu boys, they can hold their heads up proud

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almost 9 years ago

Good to see another ofc side making an impact on the global stage, keep it up boys.

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almost 9 years ago

Saudi's equalise, dammit

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almost 9 years ago

Sounds like the Zambia/Germany game was rather dramatic.

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almost 9 years ago

Venezuela progress after extra time & Uruguay progress after swedish death strikes. Its a really interesting change to the shoot out system, it seem to put pressure on both teams much more equally.

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almost 9 years ago

RR wrote:

Venezuela progress after extra time & Uruguay progress after swedish death strikes. Its a really interesting change to the shoot out system, it seem to put pressure on both teams much more equally.

What is the change?

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almost 9 years ago · edited almost 9 years ago · History

NHpeter wrote:

RR wrote:

Venezuela progress after extra time & Uruguay progress after swedish death strikes. Its a really interesting change to the shoot out system, it seem to put pressure on both teams much more equally.

What is the change?

It was the new ABBA system, Team A takes 1 penalty, then Team B takes 2 penalties, then Team A takes 2 penalties, then Team B takes 2 penalties & repeat until a winner found. It mimics the tie breaker system from tennis.
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almost 9 years ago

is that as exciting from a spectator point of view as the old system was? My initial reaction is no, but I haven't seen an ABBA penalty shootout yet 


Allegedly

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almost 9 years ago

Tegal wrote:

is that as exciting from a spectator point of view as the old system was? My initial reaction is no, but I haven't seen an ABBA penalty shootout yet 

The Portugal vs Uruguay shoot out hasn't been uploaded but there was one in the u17 Euro women's tournament the other day

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almost 9 years ago

Tegal wrote:

is that as exciting from a spectator point of view as the old system was? My initial reaction is no, but I haven't seen an ABBA penalty shootout yet 

The other system favoured the first team too much though, which is why it's been changed

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almost 9 years ago

Tegal wrote:

is that as exciting from a spectator point of view as the old system was? My initial reaction is no, but I haven't seen an ABBA penalty shootout yet 

The other system favoured the first team too much though, which is why it's been changed

Teams that took the first penalty won something like 60% of them, so from a competitive point of view it really needed a change. It is gonna take awhile to get used too but I do think its for the better.
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almost 9 years ago · edited almost 9 years ago · History

Tegal wrote:

is that as exciting from a spectator point of view as the old system was? My initial reaction is no, but I haven't seen an ABBA penalty shootout yet 

The other system favoured the first team too much though, which is why it's been changed

It's a trade off for sure. That slight advantage vs the shootout being more of a spectacle for fans. I'm always on the side of it being more of a spectacle for fans (obviously, being as I am one). 

This is all theoretical from me though, as for all I know the ABBA system is just as (or more) exciting than the old one. In which case, great. 


Allegedly

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almost 9 years ago

What's the rationale behind it being fairer?

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almost 9 years ago

Oska wrote:

What's the rationale behind it being fairer?

Atm its still a trial to see if its fairer. The traditional system puts much more pressure on the team going second, more often than not its them that are in the situation where they must score to keep the shoot out alive.
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almost 9 years ago

Oska wrote:

What's the rationale behind it being fairer?

Team who kicks first wins the shootout 60% of the time. Thats significant enough that it's putting too much emphasis on the result of the coin toss.

ABBA is aiming to bring that back to 50%, so that the system doesn't favour one team over the other. 

The Uruguay/Portugal shootout was as exciting as any that I've seen. ABBA meant that both teams had chances to win the match on their own kick, and the pressure got to kickers on both teams equally as they missed/took poor pens.


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almost 9 years ago

England in the semis. Twenty-four years since they last got even to the quarters.  Doubt many people would have picked that based on history.

I have traditionally got much joy from perpetual English failure at any tournament but I'm glad to see them go well here for some reason.

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almost 9 years ago

Hard News wrote:

England in the semis. Twenty-four years since they last got even to the quarters.  Doubt many people would have picked that based on history.

I have traditionally got much joy from perpetual English failure at any tournament but I'm glad to see them go well here for some reason.

And now in the final.

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almost 9 years ago

This must be a direct reflection of the FA changes to English born (eligible) player numbers in the larger squad of Premier league teams and their academy system.  (If I recall the changes correctly)

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almost 9 years ago

And now won it. Amazing game. Can't believe we've won a football World Cup! Didn't think I'd see it in my lifetime.

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almost 9 years ago

ajc28 wrote:

And now won it. Amazing game. Can't believe we've won a football World Cup! Didn't think I'd see it in my lifetime.

Yeah great stuff! Thought England were good value for their halt time lead, but seemed to run out of puff in the second half; still, they managed to guts it out, which was great to see. A very open free flowing game too.The peroxide haired ball player for Venezuela was very classy, and I liked the look of Onomah, Lookman, & Walker-Peters at left back(despite being a right footer!). Really though, England had several more excellent players in their line up/squad. Amazing what can happen when you send close to a full strength team for a change eh?  Now the trick is for the clubs to actually pick some of these guys, rather than buying overseas players. Problem is of course, that many clubs are foreign owned & managed, and they don't give two hoots about England's national team, whatever they say...

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almost 9 years ago

Ray Hicks wrote:

ajc28 wrote:

And now won it. Amazing game. Can't believe we've won a football World Cup! Didn't think I'd see it in my lifetime.

Yeah great stuff! Thought England were good value for their halt time lead, but seemed to run out of puff in the second half; still, they managed to guts it out, which was great to see. A very open free flowing game too.The peroxide haired ball player for Venezuela was very classy, and I liked the look of Onomah, Lookman, & Walker-Peters at left back(despite being a right footer!). Really though, England had several more excellent players in their line up/squad. Amazing what can happen when you send close to a full strength team for a change eh?  Now the trick is for the clubs to actually pick some of these guys, rather than buying overseas players. Problem is of course, that many clubs are foreign owned & managed, and they don't give two hoots about England's national team, whatever they say...

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