It's Friday. Lets play 'You are the ref'
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It's Friday. Lets play 'You are the ref'
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No peaking at The Guardian to see what peeps think there:
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For question number 3, indirect free kick to the opposition.
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In Number 2, don't see how you can do anything but note it in your match report.
Number 3 is an indirect Free Kick- but is supposed to happen where the offense occurs- i.e, where the keeper handles it?
Number 3 is an indirect Free Kick- but is supposed to happen where the offense occurs- i.e, where the keeper handles it?
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For number 3, yes - unless the keeper handles it inside the 6-yard box, in which case the IFK is taken from the 6-yard box line nearest to the incident.
For Number 1, don't think ref can do much because I don't think it's officially part of the uniform, but know there's some discussion about it now so not really sure.
For Number 1, don't think ref can do much because I don't think it's officially part of the uniform, but know there's some discussion about it now so not really sure.
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Agree with you guys:
1) No booking
2) Note it in match report/report it to match supervisor
3)Indirect free kick from where keeper handled or edge of 6 yard box if handled inside.
1) No booking
2) Note it in match report/report it to match supervisor
3)Indirect free kick from where keeper handled or edge of 6 yard box if handled inside.
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1. Nothing. Although not part of a player's equipment, the Laws now say that a player can booked for covering his head or face with a mask or somthing similar, so if he'd put it over his face or head he could well be booked for it I suppose. He's not doing that though..
2. Nothing. Could mention it in match report
3. IFK
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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^^^^ - What he said.
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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If i saw number 2 in a Northern League game i would probably die of laughter. Otherwise report it.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Any booking or even send off for #3? Not a referee, but it seems like a professional foul (even if only an IFK) to deny a certain goal. I have the rules handy-ish but can't be arsed to look up and interpret.
Thanks experts ....
Thanks experts ....
I know, I know, its serious!
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OK, just did my own (quick) check of the laws of the game. In case anyone other than me is interested dismissals for goal prevention incidents relate only to hand balls and fouls against opposition players (paraphrased). No opposition players involved, so I guess OK.
Interesting, nevertheless.
Interesting, nevertheless.
I know, I know, its serious!
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Agree with you guys:
1) No booking
2) Note it in match report/report it to match supervisor
3)Indirect free kick from where keeper handled or edge of 6 yard box if handled inside.
1) No booking
2) Note it in match report/report it to match supervisor
3)Indirect free kick from where keeper handled or edge of 6 yard box if handled inside.
Agree.
I've been thinking about #1 a bit recently. A player in the TPL scored a goal a couple of weeks back, and took off his boot, and pretended it was a phone as part of his post-goal celebration. I'm fairly sure he wasn't booked. According to someone on a forum here, it was a copy of a recent celebration in a European league (Serie A?). Surely taking off a boot and then getting it back on would waste more time than getting a shirt off and on? Shouldn't this be a yellow if removing your shirt is?
wolfman2011-03-08 03:57:28
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Actually, I'd give #1 a second yellow just for wearing a snood.
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Actual answers from Keith Hackett.
1) Providing the player hasn't delayed the restart, and you don't feel the celebration was excessive or provocative, then, based on the current laws of the game, no offence has been committed. This shouldn't be an issue in future, though, because of the new ban on snoods. The International FA Board has judged that they are potentially dangerous. Thanks to Arran Parkinson for the question.
2) You have a responsibility to uphold the integrity of the game, but you're not in a position to pass a full judgment on the players now. So make it clear to both of them that you will be reporting what you saw to the authorities after the match, and call officials from both teams to your dressing room to tell them the same. Thanks to Johannah Carroll.
3) Award an indirect free-kick on the goal area line parallel to the goalline at a point nearest the position of the offence. The keeper has deliberately handled the ball from a direct kick from a team-mate. He's not guilty, though, of the red card offence of denying a goal because keepers are allowed to handle the ball inside their own penalty area: his offence is specific. Derek Rouse wins the shirt.
Good job team.
1) Providing the player hasn't delayed the restart, and you don't feel the celebration was excessive or provocative, then, based on the current laws of the game, no offence has been committed. This shouldn't be an issue in future, though, because of the new ban on snoods. The International FA Board has judged that they are potentially dangerous. Thanks to Arran Parkinson for the question.
2) You have a responsibility to uphold the integrity of the game, but you're not in a position to pass a full judgment on the players now. So make it clear to both of them that you will be reporting what you saw to the authorities after the match, and call officials from both teams to your dressing room to tell them the same. Thanks to Johannah Carroll.
3) Award an indirect free-kick on the goal area line parallel to the goalline at a point nearest the position of the offence. The keeper has deliberately handled the ball from a direct kick from a team-mate. He's not guilty, though, of the red card offence of denying a goal because keepers are allowed to handle the ball inside their own penalty area: his offence is specific. Derek Rouse wins the shirt.
Good job team.
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I would have had to hand my whistle back if I'd got those wrong!
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I would have had to hand my whistle back if I'd got those wrong!
Or resit your NZF Referee Level 1 accreditation! ;)
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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Number one is half the reason why theyre banning snoods, in what I understand will be July this year.
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Did you see the footage of the regional football league in England, where the player was sent off for violent conduct for tackling a streaker.
I wasn't sure if you could ping a player for violent conduct on a spectator - but checking the LOTG, it would appear the ref was correct:
"A player who commits a cautionable or sending-off offence, either on or off
the fi eld of play, whether directed towards an opponent, a team-mate, the
referee, an assistant referee or any other person, is disciplined according to the
nature of the offence committed."
I wasn't sure if you could ping a player for violent conduct on a spectator - but checking the LOTG, it would appear the ref was correct:
"A player who commits a cautionable or sending-off offence, either on or off
the fi eld of play, whether directed towards an opponent, a team-mate, the
referee, an assistant referee or any other person, is disciplined according to the
nature of the offence committed."
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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No peaking at The Guardian to see what peeps think there:
For Q1 clearly you do nothing. The player is from Man U and if your name is H Webb then it's "play on".
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No peaking at The Guardian to see what peeps think there:
For Q1 clearly you do nothing. The player is from Man U and if your name is H Webb then it's "play on".
Do I win $5?
Q 2 could be Bruce Grobbelaar.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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Repost as it's now on the last page - here is this week's:
My answers:
1) Give him one in the nuts as well.
2) As long as any lines are clear, can't see how it's your problem
3) Goal stands, give yourself a red card, then ask the sub to change numbers.
zonknz2011-03-11 13:22:58
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1) Send him off for violent conduct
2) Play match and submit a match incident report to the relevant authorities
3) Goal stands and get player to change shirt before he can resume play
2) Play match and submit a match incident report to the relevant authorities
3) Goal stands and get player to change shirt before he can resume play
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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My answers:
1) Give him one in the nuts as well.
Arsene Wenger's answers:
1), 2), 3) I didn't see anything. My view was obstructed. I will have to look at the replay.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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My answers:
1) Give him one in the nuts as well.
Arsene Wenger's answers:
1), 2), 3) I didn't see anything. My view was obstructed. I will have to look at the replay.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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My answers:1) Give him one in the nuts as well.
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Arsene Wenger's answers:
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1), 2), 3) We waz robbed.
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Fixed.
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My answers:1) Give him one in the nuts as well.
Arsene Wenger's answers:
1), 2), 3) How dare they not play football as pretty as ours and, by the way, UEFA owes me an apology
Fixed.
Fixed again.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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My word you lot are obsessed.
Three for me, and two for them.
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My word you lot are obsessed.
Slow day at work, Buff!p.s. Empty your inbox!
Jag2011-03-11 15:47:31Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Emptied.
Three for me, and two for them.
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1) Maybe not in the laws, but more in the spirit of the game. Apologize for the accidental striking, book him for his reaction, and send him off the pitch to cleaned up.
2) Play the game, report the incident. (oh, and sack the board)
3) Goals stands, player gets sent to change his shirt. 4th Official/lino gets an uppercut.
wolfman2011-03-12 17:38:48
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1. Send him for violent conduct
2. The laws are pretty explicet, can the game
3. The ref should have noticed it when he inspected he card pregame. If he has and the player is in a different number to that on the card, disallow the goal. If its a cock up by an official, allow the goal and get the player to change.
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Wow, these are hard. Complete guesses.
1) Book defender who blew your whistle (ungentlemanly conduct), depending on meaning of 'brutally hacked' red to the defender who took on the striker (dangerous play), restart the game with freekick for the foul that you originally saw - the game stops when you intend to blow the whistle.
2)Accidental = goal
3)Penalty. Conflicted on whether yellow for ungentlemanly conduct or red for DOGSO. I guess probably red.
Edit: Just looked at the picture for 1). Clear red - studs up lunging from behind. No question at all.aitkenmike2011-03-25 20:09:17
1) Book defender who blew your whistle (ungentlemanly conduct), depending on meaning of 'brutally hacked' red to the defender who took on the striker (dangerous play), restart the game with freekick for the foul that you originally saw - the game stops when you intend to blow the whistle.
2)Accidental = goal
3)Penalty. Conflicted on whether yellow for ungentlemanly conduct or red for DOGSO. I guess probably red.
Edit: Just looked at the picture for 1). Clear red - studs up lunging from behind. No question at all.aitkenmike2011-03-25 20:09:17
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1) stand there and cop abuse from all the players and management teams from both sides as it is completely your fault and the game is ruined. Actually, the game was already ruined from 4 minutes in when you gave a throw in to one team on the half way line, when it might have actually been an incorrect decision.
2) shoot yourself in the face as punishment for letting something like this happen.
3) Drown yourself in a puddle.
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I am loving this thread. Very interesting.
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2 Has happened in the A-League. The Mariners did it. Goal stood, although it may have left the quadrant. What they did that was sneaky though is that the first player tapped it then walked off as if letting the second player walking over take the corner. The 2nd player then ran in to the area and crossed from a more favourble angle and I think they scored.
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1) Not really clear if the winger has left the field of play deliberately, but sounds like they have over-run trying to get the ball. The Manager shouldn't be out of his box however, So i'd give them a yellow card, not least for the blue tie.
2) When the corner taker kicks the ball, it is in play, is it not, regardless of distance? Play to the whistle, muppets.
3) If the wind is strong enough to move the ball on the ground, you probably should have abandoned the game already?
zonknz2011-04-01 13:21:22
2) When the corner taker kicks the ball, it is in play, is it not, regardless of distance? Play to the whistle, muppets.
3) If the wind is strong enough to move the ball on the ground, you probably should have abandoned the game already?
zonknz2011-04-01 13:21:22
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