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It's Friday. Lets play 'You are the ref'

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Number 3 would be allow the goal wouldn't it?

Salmon swim upstream

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Depends on the manner in which the attacking player handled the ball I guess.
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

the important part of #3 occurred before the second player handles the ball, a handball on the line deserves a red card and penalty.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
But not if in the immediate aftermath of the deliberate handball on the line a legitimate goal is scored through playing advantage -> no denial of goal = no red card and penalty.
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
IMO:
1) Pass - I guess the goal stands as it is to late to do anything about, yellow card the player for unsporting conduct, send the kitman from the technical area.

2) Yellow card the sub, start with drop ball.

3) Red card the defender for the deliberate hand ball, award the goal
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Like I said for 3 - if you award the goal, you can't red card the player, as he didn't prevent a goal from being scored. So just a yellow.

With 2, agree with yellow card for the sub, and re-start with the drop ball.

For 1, the referee has to approve any change in match balls, so if he hadn't I guess technically he could disallow the goal and re-start from the throw in.
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I agree with you that that is the current interpretation of the law, but I would still like to see players sent off in this situation - my loophole to achieve this would be that he prevented a goal being scored from that play, then subsequent to that a goal was scored.
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
For No 1 it depends if the attacker's hand ball was a)deemed a deliberate hand ball or b) if the ball just happened to strike his hand, therefore not actually deemed as handball.

If a) - Then red card defender and award penalty
    b) - Yellow card defender and award goal



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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
So we are talking about two separate fouls?
If you're asking about my question regarding thie match here, yes.
 


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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We haven't done this in a while, so:


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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
1) Ref does have power to stop immediately if there is a serious injury, so if you feel this is likely to be so, stop, otherwise play continues...

2) Nothing stopping play continuing is there - he is obligated to put the back on as soon as possible, but not to stop play immediately?

3) I can't decide if it was deliberately kicked back or not. Most likely it was, but it could have been a shockingly bad corner being conceded as well.


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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I would give #1 a card for that horrible hair cut.

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
WelshPaul in the Guardian wrote:
1: Award a penalty to Manchester United.
2: Award a penalty to Manchester United.
3: Award a penalty to Manchester United and show Gareth Bale a red card just to be certain.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Twitter eh? Bit of that new-fangled muck.


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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
1) You can red card people in the tunnel/dressing room, so i would guess as this happened at the venue, this also counts?

2) Blow whistle,, the game's already over.

3) Don't have a clue.
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
In terms of #1, I'd imagine social media is the domain of the league rather than the referee. I'd imagine the referee would have to refer it, then continue as normal. Especially given the risk could be from a fake account, which are pretty common. Hell, even I have someone pretending to be me
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
1) as per Robb, refer to league bosses.
2) play on, let the opposition score, give the offending player a warning.
3) have to stop play, even if it is to penalise the defender for appearing to use a foreign object to interere with play.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
theprof wrote:
1) as per Robb, refer to league bosses.
2) play on, let the opposition score, give the offending player a warning.
3) have to stop play, even if it is to penalise the defender for appearing to use a foreign object to interere with play.
 
Agree with 1 & 3 here, but would still give the 2nd yellow then end the game in #2
 
Surely #3 would be stop play, and resume with a drop ball once scissors were removed from pitch?


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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
#3 - depends on if you saw where the scissors came from, did the defender bring them onto the pitch or were they thrown by a fan?

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
With the season starting so to does this!

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
IMHO
1: No goal, game continues. Put it in the match report and let the bureaucrats deal with the club.

2: Goal stands - obviously the ball was on the spot otherwise you wouldn't have allowed the penalty to be taken to start with! If he missed then retake it for keeper advancing off the line early.

3: No goal, indirect free kick to defending side - the penalty taker can't touch the ball again before another player. aitkenmike2011-08-13 17:21:53
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