In another thread someone mentioned substituting a keeper in response to the tactics used by an opposition
(e.g. put on somebody who could cope with high balls better if there were a lot of those)
Seems a bit extreme to me though ... anyone heard of this happening?
(e.g. put on somebody who could cope with high balls better if there were a lot of those)
Seems a bit extreme to me though ... anyone heard of this happening?
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If that scenario were to happen, it is because the other 10 f**kwits aren't doing their job properly (Keeper angst).
Very extreme, haven't seen it happen and doubt much it would.
Very extreme, haven't seen it happen and doubt much it would.
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I think they tried substituting Granville at Alex Moore v Wharfies this year but no one wanted to take his place
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Never seen or heard of a tactical switch in keepers during the game.
Don't like the idea one bit.
Don't like the idea one bit.
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seems a waste of a sub. If your doing it to stop goals being conceeded your better to either drop a striker and add a DM or something along those lines.
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I think they tried substituting Granville at Alex Moore v Wharfies this year but no one wanted to take his place
I wonder if that hole I tried digging for myself in the goalbox is still there...
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Yes, it does happens but on very rare moments. You have a better chance of seeing it at knock out tournaments rather than league games when things can go pear shaped.
In substituting, there are plenty of various options available. In the last 15 minutes, the game does tend to go more long ballish as the time pressure mounts.
There are bascially two options available depending on the scoreline and how the teams are playing, either you improve on your strengths or you improve on your weaknesses.
If that weakness is starting to show that your keeper having high cross ball problems due to lack of concentration, then you have a few options like placing an extra midfielder to pressure the accurate crossing or getting a central defender whose heading is major strength or replace the keeper if you think that everyone else doing their job and you don't want to change the dynamics of the formation much. It is surprising, the number of goals that happens in the last 15 minutes due to the long ball game being implemented.
With many crosses causing problems in the box. And If you have only one sub left, and problems are with a couple of teammates not doing their job properly in closing the crossers down (after screaming for 10 minutes to do so), since you are unable to sub those players off with only one sub left, then instead of tactically addressing the beginning of the cross, you address the end of the cross and so you change for a keeper with a superior high ball skill. Normally you get a defender with a better heading but you may have used that option already and still have some problems, although it is unlikely.
Changing the keeper is valid but also an extreme option and is used mainly when you are closing up shop. Most cases your starting line-up keeper is reasonable and is trained as such. But sometimes, concentration can get the best of anyone during the game and if there is an indication of that happening in the last 15 minutes with the keeper then closing up shop and changing keepers is not a bad choice when things are not going to improve with your weaknesses or your strengths of the other players and you have a sub yet to do.
A keeper swap with better high ball skills may be only serve to tighten the last line of defence if there is an unwillingness to drop attacking numbers but rather pushing one of the midfielders into front and/or pushing a defender into the midfield to improve the attacking and change for the long ball game in the last part of the game bypassing the midfield but weaks the defence whilst looking for a goal and hence the tightening up with the keeper as both teams are going long ball in the last part of the game. Especially if the other subs on the bench are not going to be effective as those on the field already, then considerations to the last line of defence may then be a thought.
It is adventurous and can be effective ploy even though it looks nasty and crude and gives a good crowd scare but then it's results that you are looking for, then what the heck . . .
mind you I'm not part of the The Yellow Fever Goalkeepers Union but I was a shotstop goalkeeper at junior rep until I found to even better in the outfield. As most of you may know from my post I do the coaching analysis nowdays.
AllWhitebelievr2008-10-08 15:38:44
In substituting, there are plenty of various options available. In the last 15 minutes, the game does tend to go more long ballish as the time pressure mounts.
There are bascially two options available depending on the scoreline and how the teams are playing, either you improve on your strengths or you improve on your weaknesses.
If that weakness is starting to show that your keeper having high cross ball problems due to lack of concentration, then you have a few options like placing an extra midfielder to pressure the accurate crossing or getting a central defender whose heading is major strength or replace the keeper if you think that everyone else doing their job and you don't want to change the dynamics of the formation much. It is surprising, the number of goals that happens in the last 15 minutes due to the long ball game being implemented.
With many crosses causing problems in the box. And If you have only one sub left, and problems are with a couple of teammates not doing their job properly in closing the crossers down (after screaming for 10 minutes to do so), since you are unable to sub those players off with only one sub left, then instead of tactically addressing the beginning of the cross, you address the end of the cross and so you change for a keeper with a superior high ball skill. Normally you get a defender with a better heading but you may have used that option already and still have some problems, although it is unlikely.
Changing the keeper is valid but also an extreme option and is used mainly when you are closing up shop. Most cases your starting line-up keeper is reasonable and is trained as such. But sometimes, concentration can get the best of anyone during the game and if there is an indication of that happening in the last 15 minutes with the keeper then closing up shop and changing keepers is not a bad choice when things are not going to improve with your weaknesses or your strengths of the other players and you have a sub yet to do.
A keeper swap with better high ball skills may be only serve to tighten the last line of defence if there is an unwillingness to drop attacking numbers but rather pushing one of the midfielders into front and/or pushing a defender into the midfield to improve the attacking and change for the long ball game in the last part of the game bypassing the midfield but weaks the defence whilst looking for a goal and hence the tightening up with the keeper as both teams are going long ball in the last part of the game. Especially if the other subs on the bench are not going to be effective as those on the field already, then considerations to the last line of defence may then be a thought.
It is adventurous and can be effective ploy even though it looks nasty and crude and gives a good crowd scare but then it's results that you are looking for, then what the heck . . .
mind you I'm not part of the The Yellow Fever Goalkeepers Union but I was a shotstop goalkeeper at junior rep until I found to even better in the outfield. As most of you may know from my post I do the coaching analysis nowdays.
AllWhitebelievr2008-10-08 15:38:44
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