No doubt I'll get slammed for this by the abundant FIFAphiles out there, but I really do not like the way Fifa attempts to sanitise our wonderful game for its own ends.
BlattersBalls2009-11-19 15:33:42
Re: France v Ireland
The Fifa match report makes no mention of the handball controversy;
''France had an appeal for a penalty correctly turned down after striker Nicolas Anelka tumbled to the turf under pressure in the eighth minute.
Five minutes later, William Gallas bunled the ball home to win the match for Les Bleus. ''
Mention one controversial moment because the officials got it right, but simply ignore another because it might refelect badly on Fifa and its officials.This approcah sickens me.
Even more laughable:
''France's late stroke of luck finally proved the visitors' downfall.''
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They don't want to undermine themselves so fair enough.
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Agree.
edit - for sake of clarity - I agree with blattersballs...it's stupid.
Smithy2009-11-19 15:38:03Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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thats dreadful, and they are idiots because the whole world saw it and nobody gets their football news from the fifa website!
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They don't want to undermine themselves so fair enough.
How is that undermining? They are the facts, the game is not perfect, people are not perfect, its okay to make mistakes, but dont sanitise it, ignore it, pretend it didn't happen and treat the footballing public like 5 year olds. They do the same thing when screening the replays within stadia.
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thats dreadful, and they are idiots because the whole world saw it and nobody gets their football news from the fifa website!
Stop watching it on youtube Buckle you're getting wound up...
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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They train and appoint officials so in a way it would be undermining themselves to come out strait away and point out the (significant) flaws in the match officials.
I agree that the game isn't perfect and it's OK to make mistakes (within reason).
I agree that the game isn't perfect and it's OK to make mistakes (within reason).
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They train and appoint officials so in a way it would be undermining themselves to come out strait away and point out the (significant) flaws in the match officials.
I agree that the game isn't perfect and it's OK to make mistakes (within reason).
I agree that the game isn't perfect and it's OK to make mistakes (within reason).
It is not pointing out anything, it is simply encorporating a vital match incident into the match report.
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Yeah. Embarassing. But what do you expect? The way that Ireland and France even had to play was stupid. The Irish saw it coming too.
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They don't want to undermine themselves so fair enough.
How is that undermining? They are the facts, the game is not perfect, people are not perfect, its okay to make mistakes, but dont sanitise it, ignore it, pretend it didn't happen and treat the footballing public like 5 year olds. They do the same thing when screening the replays within stadia.
I reckon that replays at stadiums ruling is fine. You don't want to incite riots with replays or a bad call at an old firm game or boca v.s river plate.
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I reckon that replays at stadiums ruling is fine. You don't want to incite riots with replays or a bad call at an old firm game or boca v.s river plate.
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That is the rational that they use to justify their policy. However, I would like to see the statistical evidence of how many riots have been sparked by such replays in the past, I am betting fook all.
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if a riot is meant to happen it will....
PAO vs OSFP almost always will regardless
or ARIS vs PAOK
or ARIS VS IRAKLIS --- this match was insane this year....a fan slapped the aris keeper, straight slapped him...
i have to see this i heard there was controversy
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ok i have lost all repect for henry i used to think he was a good player and a fair one.
he never over celebrated goals he never showed off but that was just silly. THAT and his ludacris claims on Gate 13....france will choke
im part irish here and my club has the shamrock....Ireland were robbed. that is horible i feel for my irish cousins....
WARZYCHA2009-11-19 17:26:01
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Blatter, Platini. Old Boys Network, Corruption. I'll let you join the dots. Not the first time questionable things have taken place. Germany 2004 and SA 2010 spring to mind
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LG, you are going to have to join the dots. Are you seriously trying to suggest that Henry's hand ball was a FIFA perpetration and an example of old boys network corruption?
And Germany 2004? What did the Germans do at the Euros? I don't think their first round exit has any conspiracy potential?
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if a riot is meant to happen it will....
PAO vs OSFP almost always will regardless
or ARIS vs PAOK
or ARIS VS IRAKLIS --- this match was insane this year....a fan slapped the aris keeper, straight slapped him...
i have to see this i heard there was controversy
Huh, in what sense is a riot ever meant to happen?
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Actually I was thinking more about the voting as to which country got the 2006.
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What, the Charlie Dempsey abstension? I still don't get what you're driving at? You've hinted that the Henry's handball was a result of corruption and now thrown in the delegate voting for 2006 and the use of continental rotations for hosting that lead to 2010.... what? I really can't join the dots you're charting.
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What, the Charlie Dempsey abstension? I still don't get what you're driving at? You've hinted that the Henry's handball was a result of corruption and now thrown in the delegate voting for 2006 and the use of continental rotations for hosting that lead to 2010.... what? I really can't join the dots you're charting.
Reasonably clear to me that LG is pointing out that their is corruption in FIFA and not at all saying that they put Henry up to the handball. Appears to me that you're looking for an argument. Trying to make someone else sound stupid so as to attempt to establish some intellectual superiority.
With regards to not showing controversial incidents on the big screen, well that's a no brainer really
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No, I was trying to find the link the statements with the topic thread. And then I got lost on Germany 2004, which turned out to be a non-sequitor about the 2006 hosting. All this because FIFA have an annoying habit of "sanitising" match reports they publish on their own site.
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What, the Charlie Dempsey abstension? I still don't get what you're driving at? You've hinted that the Henry's handball was a result of corruption and now thrown in the delegate voting for 2006 and the use of continental rotations for hosting that lead to 2010.... what? I really can't join the dots you're charting.
Reasonably clear to me that LG is pointing out that their is corruption in FIFA and not at all saying that they put Henry up to the handball. Appears to me that you're looking for an argument. Trying to make someone else sound stupid so as to attempt to establish some intellectual superiority.
With regards to not showing controversial incidents on the big screen, well that's a no brainer really
I don't think corruption was involved. I think the ref was unsighted and perhaps the AR on the far side was too. If you don't see it you can't blow it. Though I don't understand why offside wasn't blown in the first place.
This thread was actually about Fifa's attempts to sanitise the game.
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can anyone remember what punishment Fifa dished out to Maradonna with his hand of god? I think he got away with it, despite bringing the game into disrepute.
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can anyone remember what punishment Fifa dished out to Maradonna with his hand of god? I think he got away with it, despite bringing the game into disrepute.
He didn't receive any punishment. As it helped put England out of the WC, I think FIFA made the right call on that occasion! 
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
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can anyone remember what punishment Fifa dished out to Maradonna with his hand of god? I think he got away with it, despite bringing the game into disrepute.
He didn't receive any punishment. As it helped put England out of the WC, I think FIFA made the right call on that occasion!
At least Maradonna came out with some good quotes about the incident. It actually enriched the game I reckon.
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Oh great, Madonna huggers alert!!! Lucky karma (if you believe in Karma) got him back with drugs and other issues. Plus that fact that Pele is still king for the majority of people outside of Argentina.
Bring on the TV replays FIFA and forget about the stupid extra two endline official.
Save some money paying for the officials and get some dignity, while you still can, Sepp Blatter.
Bring on the TV replays FIFA and forget about the stupid extra two endline official.
Save some money paying for the officials and get some dignity, while you still can, Sepp Blatter.
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Ye i was gonna say GOD punished him enough
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I love Maradona! Absolute flawed genius.
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Great player. Mad as a hatter.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Oh great, Madonna huggers alert!!! Lucky karma (if you believe in Karma) got him back with drugs and other issues. Plus that fact that Pele is still king for the majority of people outside of Argentina.
Bring on the TV replays FIFA and forget about the stupid extra two endline official.
Save some money paying for the officials and get some dignity, while you still can, Sepp Blatter.
Bring on the TV replays FIFA and forget about the stupid extra two endline official.
Save some money paying for the officials and get some dignity, while you still can, Sepp Blatter.
Well I liked some of her earlier stuff, but I wouldn't really call myself a fan
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Was thinking the same thing! Wouldn't want to hug that disgusting whore these days anyway...
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Great player. Mad as a hatter.
Exactly. Something about him strangely magnetises me though. For all his drama, drugs and "me against the world" attitude, I findly myself strangely drawn towards his madness...
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Oh great, Maradonna huggers alert!!! Lucky karma (if you believe in Karma) got him back with drugs and other issues. Plus that fact that Pele is still king for the majority of people outside of Argentina.
Bring on the TV replays FIFA and forget about the stupid extra two endline official.
Save some money paying for the officials and get some dignity, while you still can, Sepp Blatter.
Bring on the TV replays FIFA and forget about the stupid extra two endline official.
Save some money paying for the officials and get some dignity, while you still can, Sepp Blatter.
Fixed me post.
They are both sicko anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if they did the "freaky" thing together . . .
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Now come on... Diego has more taste than that.
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Great player. Mad as a hatter.
Exactly. Something about him strangely magnetises me though. For all his drama, drugs and "me against the world" attitude, I findly myself strangely drawn towards his madness...
him.You know we belong together...
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Great player. Mad as a hatter.
Exactly. Something about him strangely magnetises me though. For all his drama, drugs and "me against the world" attitude, I findly myself strangely drawn towards his madness...
him.
Think he's a twat , personally. Should have been the best-ever advert for the game- but he turned out to be a joke.
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Great player. Mad as a hatter.
Exactly. Something about him strangely magnetises me though. For all his drama, drugs and "me against the world" attitude, I findly myself strangely drawn towards his madness...
him.
Think he's a twat , personally. Should have been the best-ever advert for the game- but he turned out to be a joke.
Just as a matter of interest, BB. What's your opinion of Paul Gascoigne?
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Great player. Mad as a hatter.
Exactly. Something about him strangely magnetises me though. For all his drama, drugs and "me against the world" attitude, I findly myself strangely drawn towards his madness...
him.
Think he's a twat , personally. Should have been the best-ever advert for the game- but he turned out to be a joke.
Just as a matter of interest, BB. What's your opinion of Paul Gascoigne?
I think he wasted his talent. Unilke Maradona I thinkhis true potential was never brought to bear. Could he have been an English Maradona ? Probably not. I think the very characteristics that allowed him to be so expressive and occasionally sublime on the field, were the same ones that distracted him from the game and tormented him in his prersonal life. Maradona's genius was, to some extent, a product of those intrinsic personality traits too, but I think he had more natural ability, at least with respect to pace, balance and athleticism. You could argue that both players have brought the game into disrepute at various times, though I think Maradona, on balance, has done more harm than good. I don't think the same can be said for Gazza.
BlattersBalls2009-11-30 11:42:05
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Hmm. Drug addicted, foul mouthed egomaniac madman versus alcoholic, wife beating madman. Not a lot of difference, off the park, in my opinion.
Always amused at the English tendency to laugh off anything that Gazza did and blame it on the fact that he was a 'character' while having all that festering rage and hatred at Maradona because of the 'Hand of God' carry-on. Hmm.
Jag2009-11-30 12:43:48Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Hmm. Drug addicted, foul mouthed egomaniac madman versus alcoholic, wife beating madman. Not a lot of difference, off the park, in my opinion.
Always amused at the English tendency to laugh off anything that Gazza did and blame it on the fact that he was a 'character' while having all that festering rage and hatred at Maradona because of the 'Hand of God' carry-on. Hmm.
That's a bit of a generalisation that you would find hard to substantiate. Do the English harbour a dislike of Maradona? Once again that would be a generalisation, but I think it is fair to say that no true English fan would look upon the first goal of the '86 game with any fondness. It is not just the action, but the taunting and lack of remorse that I find to be worthy of reproach. Maradona has expressed open enmity towards England and the English, it would be somewhat naive not expect at least some to respond in kind. However, ask the English about the 2nd goal and you might get a different answer. Truly one of the,best ( if not the best) goals ever scored at a World Cup.
I think the difference is that most of Maradona's indiscretions have occured on the field of play or in an official capacity. The hand of God debacle,1994 World Cup expulsion, the recent obscence gesturing as coach of the national team.
Many of Gascoigne's failings were not directly realted to the game, but were personal failings brought to light due to the media fascination with him and the gutter press' insatiable appetite to put sportsmans' actions on both the front and back pages. I'm not condoning wife-beating, I'm just suggesting that in other countries these matters are not dealt with in the press. I'm not sure if he ever took to the field under the influence of alcohol, either.
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