Seb
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Don't really see why TFC are so keen on Brockie. 1 goal in over 10 appearances for a striker doesn't really scream 'lets buy him'. To be fair though Toronto isn't a great team and maybe they think he would perform better with good players around him. It is a team that is rebuilding after all..

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They just signed another striker too - Urruti, who they've been chasing all season from Argentina

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Seb wrote:

Don't really see why TFC are so keen on Brockie. 1 goal in over 10 appearances for a striker doesn't really scream 'lets buy him'. To be fair though Toronto isn't a great team and maybe they think he would perform better with good players around him. It is a team that is rebuilding after all..

14 games, 9 starts. Only one goal and 3 assists but he has done a lot of work that those stats don't show. He probably should had more goals also, just hasn't finished as well as he normally does.

In this stint I've seen a few more things in his game we hadn't seen before. Work rate is massively improved and some very deft touches to put people into space.

[Edit: TFC play the Crew at 11:30am Sunday]
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Seb wrote:

Don't really see why TFC are so keen on Brockie. 1 goal in over 10 appearances for a striker doesn't really scream 'lets buy him'. To be fair though Toronto isn't a great team and maybe they think he would perform better with good players around him. It is a team that is rebuilding after all..

One striker can't be relied upon to score to goals, its a team effort. If he'd stuffed up a buffet of chances perhaps, but his goal scoring rate has to be viewed in the light of the teams performance which has been poor. Hard to expect a million goals from a striker in a poorly performing team. That said he scored a bucket for us while we sucked all last season...
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The hope is Ryan that Brockie brings that back to us. If he turns into a lazy cunt again, there will be more than a few who call for his head. I actually doubt Ernie would tolerate a slack ass attitude or work ethic anyway.

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totally this ^, if Brockie has used this loan to develop a new work ethic on the field then all good, if however he goes back to the not bothered attitude then he can go back to Toronto and let us by someone who wants to be here.

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Ok that's fine but he scored 16 goals ,"as a not bothered/lazy cunt", - who else got close to that?

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think what he could have scored if he put in a bit of effort.

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If he's a striker he can be as lazy as he likes if he still scores 16 goals.

Problem with letting him go is who to replace him with? He's a Kiwi and I don't see a Kiwi or Aussie around who might do much better [unless we got McDonald, Killen or someone], we'd have to use an import spot and we need that spot for elsewhere. Only advantage I see in letting him go is $$$$

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If he's a striker he can be as lazy as he likes if he still scores 16 goals.

Problem with letting him go is who to replace him with? He's a Kiwi and I don't see a Kiwi or Aussie around who might do much better [unless we got McDonald, Killen or someone], we'd have to use an import spot and we need that spot for elsewhere. Only advantage I see in letting him go is $$$$

Another year on Boyd and Rufer if Brockie leaves after this season, hopefully we will have some natural replacements.
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hamezilla wrote:

Ok that's fine but he scored 16 goals ,"as a not bothered/lazy cunt", - who else got close to that?

I know what you are saying but despite scoring 16 goals last year, he got razzed a lot across various threads (and still does) about lack of work ethic. If scoring 16 goals is all that matters, why does his work ethic get consistently mentioned?

I think perhaps, people wonder what more he could achieve with some graft and application.
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getting a lot of ads on the stream and can't seem to delete them...

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Pretty poor half by TFC. Lucky to go into the break only 1-0 down.

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Not a lot happening up front for Toronto, Brockie been marked quite well and receiving a lot of the ball either on the wing or with his back to goal. Toronto still in it though.

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2-0 Crew, that was a very audacious chip of the keeper.

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Down 2-nil after an audacious chip. Brockie still on.

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Couple good goals for the Crew in an otherwise forgettable game. Brockie seemed to be out wide with Earnshaw in the middle. More I see of Earnshaw, I'm glad we didn't get him.

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Horrific game for TFC last night. Brockie had a bad night, but so did the rest of the team. Hopefully next week's game, Brockie's last with TFC, will be a lot better.

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My husband and I were the ones who told Brockie about Hemmingways. We'd watched the World Cup there when NZ played, and figured Brockie would enjoy it there. :)
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Brockie's heading back to NZ next Monday, after playing his last game with TFC (an away game) on Sat, Aug 24 vs DC United.

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Losing 1-0 at HT to DC United in Brockie's final game on the loan stint.

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Convey makes it 1-1

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Jeremy starting and 1- 1 so far as game progresses mid-way through second half against DC United, Ryan's old team he won MLS with as captain a decade ago.

http://m.mlssoccer.com/mobile-matchcenter/2013-08-24-dc-v-tor/scorebox

Brocks should be very fit and raring to go for the new A-League season...

I see Bobby Convey just scored for Toronto - remember seeing him play in Christchurch at QE II Stadium for the USA u-17's in a "mini World Cup" in 1998 the year before the 1999 FIFA u-17 World Cup in NZ. That team also included future luminaries Landon Donovan and DaMarcus Beasley, mainstays of the US national team for years, and careers at the top level in Europe. Convey had a few seasons with Reading in the EPL.

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Ends 1-1. Brockie set up a great chance for Earnshaw on a plate but he is in a massive drought, so fluffed it up.

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So ends Brockie's loan and I find that I rather like Brockie's game. It's too bad that his finishing sucked, because while he didn't get as many chances as he'd like, he did get some, and in the end he only scored 1 goal. Though glimpse of his finishing ability was there, because no matter how old he may be, if you can make Nesta look like a chump on a 1v1 play, you have some skill. 

What I like the most about Brockie was what he did was mostly instinctive, a lot of one touch passes and link up play. With his back to the goal, he seems to be aware of his teammates making a run, and has the skill to find them with short passes. Actually, I think if he was trained at a better youth academy, he might be playing in Europe because he's got that killer instinct to be at the right place at the right time that it's hard to teach. Was surprised about his poor work rate with Wellington, because he played his balls off while with TFC. Maybe the motivation to play at a higher level and potentially leading into possible European gig was the reason. (Hell, even Brockie said MLS is at a higher level than A league)

On final note, a little birdy told me that Nelsen has no plans to buy Brockie from Wellington, and may again be interested in him once his contract is over few years down the road. And Nelsen hopes to do a loan with Wellington for some TFC reserve players. One player is Kyle Bekker, young Canadian international CM who plays more of a deep playmaker role. Very technical player who can make a pass, and has decent set piece ability, but doesn't dribble very well and at the moment can't keep up with the pace of MLS. 

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This has to be one of the best photos in Phoenix history...

Caption competition anyone?

From the Phoenix Instagram btw: http://instagram.com/wellingtonphoenix#

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"Guys you're not meant to go down like you have been actually shot by a sniper"

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"Brockie's form on the slide"

"OK kids, let's all practice the Siggy Stomp"



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Lol he has clearly just given that poor girl a piece of his right forearm and she's about to fall over and crush the kid in the red. 

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Yohan wrote:

So ends Brockie's loan and I find that I rather like Brockie's game. It's too bad that his finishing sucked, because while he didn't get as many chances as he'd like, he did get some, and in the end he only scored 1 goal. Though glimpse of his finishing ability was there, because no matter how old he may be, if you can make Nesta look like a chump on a 1v1 play, you have some skill. 

What I like the most about Brockie was what he did was mostly instinctive, a lot of one touch passes and link up play. With his back to the goal, he seems to be aware of his teammates making a run, and has the skill to find them with short passes. Actually, I think if he was trained at a better youth academy, he might be playing in Europe because he's got that killer instinct to be at the right place at the right time that it's hard to teach. Was surprised about his poor work rate with Wellington, because he played his balls off while with TFC. Maybe the motivation to play at a higher level and potentially leading into possible European gig was the reason. (Hell, even Brockie said MLS is at a higher level than A league)

On final note, a little birdy told me that Nelsen has no plans to buy Brockie from Wellington, and may again be interested in him once his contract is over few years down the road. And Nelsen hopes to do a loan with Wellington for some TFC reserve players. One player is Kyle Bekker, young Canadian international CM who plays more of a deep playmaker role. Very technical player who can make a pass, and has decent set piece ability, but doesn't dribble very well and at the moment can't keep up with the pace of MLS. 


Are we talking about the same Brockie?
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Yeahh..bad finishing, good work-rate - it's like his skillset swapped over when he passed into the northern hemisphere.

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valeo wrote:

Yeahh..bad finishing, good work-rate - it's like his skillset swapped over when he passed into the northern hemisphere.



I've watched him for years and never seen his skillset.
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with the current squad brockie is going to have to improve in both areas if he wants to be starting.

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theprof wrote:

with the current squad brockie is going to have to improve in both areas if he wants to be starting.



Wonder would Jermey Brockie would had a try in the Championship in England in the future?
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If he's injury prone and over 33 then QPR would be interested in him.

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Lonegunmen wrote:

If he's injury prone and over 33 then QPR would be interested in him.

Hang on, his contract isn't nearly expensive enough for QPR to have a look at him

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