Billy Harris: a thread of mediocrity

While i dont agree with most of his article.Some of you are way to bloody defensive.To pretend that this season we have been anything other than mostly disappointing really does show how one eyed some of you are.
On the ODD occasion we may have played some good football but if many of you were being honest you would have to admit that much of what has been dished up isnt what we expected for this season.[/QUOTE]
you seem as vacant as old willy boy here.

1. history says to us, and says to us fairly loudly, that you cannot go into the A-League expecting the world of your team. Look at where Adelaide, Roar, Sydney all finished last season, and look at where they are now. Same with CCM and Jets in previous seasons.

2. We racked up a total of 40 points last season, and right now we're on 38 with two games to go, so thats not too bad in my opinion, definitely not backwards like Willy pointed out.

3. We have clubs this year who are pulling out way in front of everyone else, which didnt happen to the same extent last season. And this has NOTHING to do with us as a club. Sydney I think lost 8 games last season, Roar have lost just the 1 this season. So how is it our fault that these teams have been thrashing everyone?

[QUOTE=ballane]Yes we may have clawed our way into the semi finals,i bet most of you would have expected those to be at home again this season.Yep its great that we will play semi final football,no matter how happy i am with that it dosnt hide the disappointment  that we wernt able to give the fans the home games many of us thought we were capable of achieving.
 

Well last year we were actually incredibly lucky to get what we got at home. It was PURE LUCK that the Jets beat GCU, and thus finishing lower than us we got the home game. There is absolutely nothing that the Nix could have done to dictate where that final game was to be played. So stop whinging

Sorry AJ but what you wrote has more holes in it than what Ballane said. The truth is hard to take.
Doesnt mean I'm unhappy about the current situation though, and I cant wait to see us fully qualified for the finals.  I love that knockout aspect of it, where regardless of the postion you finished in, 1st or 6th, once the whistle blows for kickoff, its on

Not sure AJ13just why you feel the need to be abusive .Im as entitled to my opinion as the next fan.I couldnt  give a sh*t what you think for me the season is a disappointment.I never used the words mediocre or unprofessional.The second is wrong but the first is so true.

Did it stop me attending every home game at the stadium or stop me from attending my first away game in Oz NO.Will it stop me from renewing my membership for a 5th season NO.
Certainly cant see how you find some of those performances at home "HUGELY impressive" Guess some of have higher expectations,and given some of his comments during the season im guessing Ricki did as well.

'Anything short of making the grand final will be seen as a disappointment' - Billy Harris. Dont tell me you agree with this as well?

Thats not what he said though.

And besides hes eating his own hat by saying that as even if we did make the grand final and finally having a 'successful season', it still doesnt excuse our away form, which he spent 3/4 of that write up bitching about...

So whats he really saying... that we're sh*t if we cant win away, but if we fluke it to the final we're a success?

Always thought he was a w*nker even before I read that.� We need someone to come up with a clever anti - Billy Harris chant.

4 seasons, 2 seasons in the finals equals success to me. First season I think we all wrote off as we had 3 months to establish a team.....unlike two years like the heart and Fury....the fact we are stikll competing and have a reputation of being able to beat anyone on our day is a good thing....provided we manage to finish the same or better in the finals this year we as dans should be happy.....

Its kinda funny all of this.

Im not sure what you mean by 'they should be performing better'. Bum teams and crap performances are always going to exist. Its football. Someone has to finish last...

And the 'length of time in the league' doesnt mean much when theres no relegation...

If you did your homework you would find that Billy has done quite a bit in football in NZ. Being an ex all white is not his only claim to fame.The biggest thing in my opinion Billy does is coach kids, he has his own coaching clinics and having watched him work he is very good with the kids, they all want to come back and play. I would bet he has spent more time coaching kids over the years than the vast majority of people on here.

I disagree with his column but it wasnt in any way vitriolic and there will be people out there who agree to a certain extent. Billy is definately pro Phoenix as he was with the Kingz. He has an eclectic view at times and his columns are often a bit off to left field at times.

Disagree with what he has said, counter his points but the sort of childish slagging off of the guy based on heresay or god knows what is pretty pathetic.

Bleeding clubs dry? seriously?. All the coaches in the Northern Premier division pay their coaches at some level and if you wanted you would find it easy to find some disgruntled soul to come up with claims their particular coach is bleeding their particular club dry.

Ive coached at Northern premier Division and there are some serious hours put in running a side. Personally I think any wages for coaches and players should be simply expenses but thats a whole other discussion.

He gets paid for the hours he puts in. He works full time as a football coach, either coaching kids, schools or clubs. Its his job and he is pretty good at it but you wouldnt know that as you have clearly never seen any of his sessions.

He has put some serious hours in over the years, some as a volunteer and some paid. You really should do some proper research because ill informed comments like yours are embarrasing to read.

I think he got it wrong in his column, I think the Phoenix have been superbly successful, maybe not as much on the field as we would like but absolutely a massive positive impact on the NZ football scene. He probably should have taken that into account but his column seriously doesnt deserve the spiteful vitriol being dished out here.

If you did your homework you would find that Billy has done quite a bit in football in NZ. Being an ex all white is not his only claim to fame.The biggest thing in my opinion Billy does is coach kids, he has his own coaching clinics and having watched him work he is very good with the kids, they all want to come back and play. I would bet he has spent more time coaching kids over the years than the vast majority of people on here. [/QUOTE]