Hurricanes want their own Yellow Fever
Hurricanes want their own Yellow Fever
Saw this on the back of the Dom Post but not on the front page of the site here, guess cos it was classified as a 'rugby story' ?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/3366344/Hurricanes-duo-call-for-fans-to-get-more-vocal
Hurricanes duo call for fans to get more vocal
Jason Eaton and Cory Jane have appealed to rugby fans to match the passion of their football counterparts after the pair helped chant the Wellington Phoenix to victory at Westpac Stadium.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/3366344/Hurricanes-duo-call-for-fans-to-get-more-vocal
Hurricanes duo call for fans to get more vocal
Jason Eaton and Cory Jane have appealed to rugby fans to match the passion of their football counterparts after the pair helped chant the Wellington Phoenix to victory at Westpac Stadium.
The Hurricanes duo were among the 24,000-strong crowd that helped urge the Phoenix to victory against Perth Glory in their A-league playoff match last Sunday.
And though Eaton admitted he had struggled in his attempts to sing along with Yellow Fever he would love to see Hurricanes fans give it a try during this season's Super 14.
"It was wonderful. In a way it was kind of disappointing to see such [passionate] support for a soccer game," he said. "I was proud to be a part of it and experience it, but it would be great to see that for our games.
"The atmosphere was just amazing to be a part of for that game."
Asked what could be done to bring the same atmosphere to rugby, Eaton said: "I'm not too sure how you change that. It'd be great if the guys that come along to the rugby got more vocal and hopefully the football will encourage that. I suppose the [rugby] crowd gets into it when something happens, whereas soccer fans make it happen with the atmosphere by singing along.
"In a rugby game they are waiting for something to happen, something controversial, a try to be scored for the win, but in between they are sort of just watching. I guess it's just the way both codes have evolved over the years.
"I joined in [the chanting] but I didn't really know the words or the tunes, so I sort of made it up. It was pretty entertaining."
Jane had similar sentiments and suggested a zone similar to the Yellow Fever's could spark off equally passionate chanting at the rugby.
"Hopefully people get along and get pumped like they did for the Phoenix game. That really pumped ... we can't have the same chant obviously because it would make no sense, Ri-cki Her-bert ... [but] something similar to that."
Jane said the two codes were different in terms of how the crowd watched the action.
"Obviously they are different games, football's a bit of a game of chess and the crowd has a lot of time to get pumped up [between goals], but it would be good to see Hurricanes fans get along and get into the rugby side of things."
The Hurricanes traditionally had great support and he believed the crowds would build as the season progressed. "The rugby starts early and people have other things to do at this time of the year, but we'd love the crowd to get involved," he said.
"I don't know if the players need to start doing touch down celebrations like David [Smith]. I don't know what it is, but hopefully the crowd comes along this weekend pumped up for the game."
Didn't they try it already in the 2008 season. There was a YF'esque supporters zone setup up - died a miserable death I think. I'm sure Robb W was a member - he'll know
I posed a question a while back about how the fever culture might spread to the Hurricanes and then on to the rest of the NZ S14 franchises.
I'm not sure it will actually happen but.
I'm not sure it will actually happen but.
Wonder how it is in England, I mean surely there are football fans that attend rugby matches over there.
On the one hand I just think the nature of each game is quite different, in rugby you're always expecting your team to score a try or three, and often the buildup to a try is slow and concerted. In football things can come out of nowhere and each goal is such an achievement.
On the other hand there's no reason rugby fans can't sing and chant all game long, make up chants for individual players or to taunt the opposition.
On the one hand I just think the nature of each game is quite different, in rugby you're always expecting your team to score a try or three, and often the buildup to a try is slow and concerted. In football things can come out of nowhere and each goal is such an achievement.
On the other hand there's no reason rugby fans can't sing and chant all game long, make up chants for individual players or to taunt the opposition.
Some points.
1. You can't manufacture it, that has a long history of being embarassing here.
2. You can't just change the culture.
3. You need a group willing to make a start on their own accord.
...but the fundamental problem is that it needs a major mindshift from the rest of the supporters so the people aren't left feeling like social lepers. I just don't see it happening, the existing culture is too ingrained.
1. You can't manufacture it, that has a long history of being embarassing here.
2. You can't just change the culture.
3. You need a group willing to make a start on their own accord.
...but the fundamental problem is that it needs a major mindshift from the rest of the supporters so the people aren't left feeling like social lepers. I just don't see it happening, the existing culture is too ingrained.
ask the beige brigade what they thought of the contrived crowd (labelled something like "the fanatics") that NZ Cricket tried to manufacture a few years back. Woeful.
Some points.1.� You can't manufacture it, that has a long history of being embarassing here.2. You can't just change the culture.3. You need a group willing to make a start on their own accord....but the fundamental problem is that it needs a major mindshift from the rest of the supporters so the people aren't left feeling like social lepers.� I just don't see it happening, the existing culture is too ingrained.
The one S14 game I went to last year with 16k crowd - a handful of people tried to start up a few chants.
Their efforts died very quickly and everyone just continued to talk amongst themselves and look up at the rugby every now and then.
The Beige Brigade, great concept and started with honourable intentions but where are they now? Making money in Europe, a smaller OE based Fanatics but for Kiwis.
I agree with News on this topic though, you can't just manufacture it. My other thought through today as I have spoken about this with people is for Rugby it doesn't have to be singing or chanting or anything like that it just needs to be a buzz. Still one of the best atmospheres I have ever been in at the ROF was the Canes - Tahs semi on 06, the place was electric and the atmosphere was great.
Rugby crowds just need to get the buzz back, I remember watching the Canes on TV in 97 and Athletic Park used to rock, I would go to Blues games at Eden Park during their heyday and it was amazing, similarly Waikato in the early 90s.
It just needs something, dont ask me what it is or where it will come from though.
bopman2010-02-24 21:30:19
Fair enough, still I'm kind of amused that some 'canes are fans of us.
The Beige Brigade, great concept and started with honourable intentions but where are they now? Making money in Europe, a smaller OE based Fanatics but for Kiwis.
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I agree with News on this topic though, you can't just manufacture it. My other thought through today as I have spoken about this with people is for Rugby it doesn't have to be singing or chanting or anything like that it just needs to be a buzz. Still one of the best atmospheres I have ever been in at the�ROF was the Canes - Tahs semi on 06, the place was electric and the atmosphere was great.
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Rugby crowds just need to get the buzz back, I remember watching the Canes on TV in 97 and Athletic Park used to rock, I would go to Blues games at Eden Park during their heyday and it was amazing, similarly Waikato in the early 90s.
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It just needs something, dont ask me what it is or where it will come from though.
In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe, and, uh ... No, that's it. It's the vibe.
It's because soccer's for poofs mate. I'd rather be f**king staunch than jumping around and singing like a bunch of poofs.
Excuse me. I'm no poof. I'm a wog I am.
Excuse me. I'm no poof. I'm a wog I am.
An I'm a shiela
Oops getting carried away there
Do you wear a kilt?
Plus, does anyone actually stand up for the entire game at the Rugby?
I remember the Warriors tried to do this with Bloc 5. The Butch was in on it and everything.
The Beige Brigade, great concept and started with honourable intentions but where are they now? Making money in Europe, a smaller OE based Fanatics but for Kiwis.
I agree with News on this topic though, you can't just manufacture it. My other thought through today as I have spoken about this with people is for Rugby it doesn't have to be singing or chanting or anything like that it just needs to be a buzz. Still one of the best atmospheres I have ever been in at the ROF was the Canes - Tahs semi on 06, the place was electric and the atmosphere was great.
Rugby crowds just need to get the buzz back, I remember watching the Canes on TV in 97 and Athletic Park used to rock, I would go to Blues games at Eden Park during their heyday and it was amazing, similarly Waikato in the early 90s.
It just needs something, dont ask me what it is or where it will come from though.
a round ball, eleven aside, not stoppages for fives minutes every five minutes, and not supporters who are either boring old farts or young dickheads.
In a way it was kind of
disappointing to see such [passionate] support for a soccer game
whats disappointing about it? why not be stoked that we're building another sporting culture in wellington which is further increasing the profile of wellington sport. dont try and make rugby like football, go do your own thing. or is that not working for you at the moment?
i know his intentions are probably good but he shouldve said something along the lines of "in a way its disappointing to see a lack of this kind of support at rugby games", instead of basically blaming us for doing more than any hurricanes fans ever have.
but he didnt, so my dig stands.
My reply got too long, so I posted it elsewhere:
comments? ;)
[QUOTE=Jason Eaton]In a way it was kind of disappointing to see such [passionate] support for a soccer game[/QUOTE]
whats disappointing about it? why not be stoked that we're building another sporting culture in wellington which is further increasing the profile of wellington sport. dont try and make rugby like football, go do your own thing. or is that not working for you at the moment?
i know his intentions are probably good but he shouldve said something along the lines of "in a way its disappointing to see a lack of this kind of support at rugby games", instead of basically blaming us for doing more than any hurricanes fans ever have.
but he didnt, so my dig stands.
whats disappointing about it? why not be stoked that we're building another sporting culture in wellington which is further increasing the profile of wellington sport. dont try and make rugby like football, go do your own thing. or is that not working for you at the moment?
i know his intentions are probably good but he shouldve said something along the lines of "in a way its disappointing to see a lack of this kind of support at rugby games", instead of basically blaming us for doing more than any hurricanes fans ever have.
but he didnt, so my dig stands.
I think his original quote exposes the myth that we are all Wellingtonian's who only want the best for Wellington sport (admittedly we do get behind our sport far more than the auks)
He is biased towards rugby we are focussed on football. I imagine that we are competing for a proportion of each other's fan base.
And being a football supporter is a far superior experience - the rugby hierarchy will be worried I expect
Football culture will never be rugby culture ever.
Many of the terrace chants are not always aimed at the players..
It is amazing sight to see 15000 fans stand up and sing about players, teams, refs, etc.
Here 10000 yellow fever fans reminding the aussies of their countries origins is intimidating and I look forward to the day we meet either the cove or the eppling line..
Rugby will never have the passion, emotion, generational , inter city rilvary that football has.
Each particular code has their own ways of producing eustress..
For me being part of the 657 firm was better than any rugby match ever..
Yeah I saw Conrad Smith there vs Glory.
My two reasons this will never happen in rugby;
1. Too high scoring.
2. Boring players. Rugby players score and they give each other a hug. How do they expect the crowd to react?
My two reasons this will never happen in rugby;
1. Too high scoring.
2. Boring players. Rugby players score and they give each other a hug. How do they expect the crowd to react?
Hope nobody gets too carried away and spill their thermos of soup all over the wooly blanket covering their knees!
Rugby crowds....spare me.
Excuse me. I'm no poof. I'm a wog I am.
Some wogs are poofs, or did Greece get the reputation it has undeservedly?
Oh, that will explain why wogball = poofball
The part I found, funny / sad / annoying /up themselves / bias / one eyed / was the statement """""It was wonderful. In a way it was kind of disappointing to see such [passionate] support for a soccer game," he said"""
Why are these pricks disappointed in football folk having fun and being passionate about their teams...
In Sydney the RL have sent people down to watch the Cove and try and copy what they do ... in Melbourne the AFL are coping the Tards supporters...
What is so sad about Football folk having fun... I say FOOK EM ... grow up
Why are these pricks disappointed in football folk having fun and being passionate about their teams...
In Sydney the RL have sent people down to watch the Cove and try and copy what they do ... in Melbourne the AFL are coping the Tards supporters...
What is so sad about Football folk having fun... I say FOOK EM ... grow up
Football culture will never be rugby culture ever.
Actually British rugby fans sing a bit, at least at internationals.
Many of the terrace chants are not always aimed at the players..
It is amazing sight to see 15000 fans stand up and sing about players, teams, refs, etc.
There's " Swing Low Sweet Chariot" often ringing around Twickenham, & I've been at Murrayfield when the crowd broke into " Flower of Scotland" to spur their team on. I remember going to the British Lions test at Athletic Park in '93, and their fans sang a lot.
There's perhaps more of a "song sheet" feel to it rather than situation-relevant outbursts of chanting that seem more prevalent in football.
Perhaps the quietness is more related to NZ rugby culture than a general rugby culture
Football culture will never be rugby culture ever.
Many of the terrace chants are not always aimed at the players..
It is amazing sight to see 15000� fans stand up and�sing about players, teams, refs, etc.
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Actually British rugby fans sing a bit, at least at internationals.
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There's " Swing Low Sweet Chariot" often ringing around Twickenham, & I've been at Murrayfield when the crowd broke into " Flower of Scotland" to spur their team on. I remember going to the British Lions test at Athletic Park in '93, and their fans sang a lot.
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There's perhaps more of a "song sheet" feel to it rather than situation-relevant outbursts of chanting that seem more prevalent in football.
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Perhaps the quietness is more�related to�NZ rugby culture than�a general rugby culture
You beat me to it. There is no reason to have this at the Rugby Games. It is only the silly Kiwi Rugby Bloke attitudes from the Old Boys network that butches the crowd mentality.
The "abide with me" song is alway popular at any football games.
In Sydney the RL have sent people down to watch the Cove and try and copy what they do ... in Melbourne the AFL are coping the Tards supporters...
No, it's just that some MVFC supporters also support an AFL team, and try to support them in the same way., with limited success it has to be said.
The Beige Brigade, great concept and started with honourable intentions but where are they now? Making money in Europe, a smaller OE based Fanatics but for Kiwis.
I agree with News on this topic though, you can't just manufacture it. My other thought through today as I have spoken about this with people is for Rugby it doesn't have to be singing or chanting or anything like that it just needs to be a buzz. Still one of the best atmospheres I have ever been in at the ROF was the Canes - Tahs semi on 06, the place was electric and the atmosphere was great.
Rugby crowds just need to get the buzz back, I remember watching the Canes on TV in 97 and Athletic Park used to rock, I would go to Blues games at Eden Park during their heyday and it was amazing, similarly Waikato in the early 90s.
It just needs something, dont ask me what it is or where it will come from though.
a round ball, eleven aside, not stoppages for fives minutes every five minutes, and not supporters who are either boring old farts or young dickheads.
Yeah - don't blame us boring old farts.
I've been at Lansdowne Road for 5 Nations games numerous times, and two B&I Lions tours, and there is plenty of singing in northern hemisphere rugby.
(Most impressive experience of a rugby match was the Lions fans drowing out the Haka, even though it was miked up and played over the PA system at the Wellington test)
I'm gobsmacked by the dullness of the crowd at rugby games in NZ, I really do think this is something about the culture of rugby not just in NZ but Oz as well, where anything other than a polite clap, and an encouraging 'C'mon' is frowned upon.
(Most impressive experience of a rugby match was the Lions fans drowing out the Haka, even though it was miked up and played over the PA system at the Wellington test)
I'm gobsmacked by the dullness of the crowd at rugby games in NZ, I really do think this is something about the culture of rugby not just in NZ but Oz as well, where anything other than a polite clap, and an encouraging 'C'mon' is frowned upon.
I think we should let them all continue to die of boredom and not give them any hope with examples of fan life in o'seas rugby
singing from a song sheet which is normal at rugby..abide by me is great to hear (when sung once)
sweet chariot is good to hear (when sung once),
trouble with rugby is the chants is not terraced originated..
it is not and nor has it been steeped in class, location, schooling, county and city (inner and inter) rivalry.
Rugby has its origins and roots in public schools.
So don't even begin to say the rugby atmosphere will even equal football.
I could make a cell phone call at ABs v Springbok test and be heard ..There was no way I could do that at NZ-Bahrain match, or the Phoenix-Perth (elimination final).
You've got to also take into account that the makeup of spectators is very different between rugby and football in NZ. Phoenix gets way more family groups and females than rugby ever has. And the atmosphere even just walking along the concourse pre-game is vastly different. soccer fans are happier and more chatty and excited.
I'd never been to a soccer game prior to 3 months ago and won tickets and dragged another female friend along and we loved it. if we'd won tickets to rugby we prob wd have given them away and yet now we are converts and come partly for the atmosphere
You've got to also take into account that the makeup of spectators is very different between rugby and football in NZ. Phoenix gets way more family groups and females than rugby ever has. And the atmosphere even just walking along the concourse pre-game is vastly different. Football fans are happier and more chatty and excited.
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I'd never been to a Football game prior to 3 months ago and won tickets and dragged another female friend along and we loved it. if we'd won tickets to rugby we prob wd have given them away and yet now we are converts and come partly for the atmosphere
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Awww can't a girl be green and show her newness lol
Meh. Don't let 'em drag you down SK. As long as you are talking up the game, call it whatever you want.