Both Woodcock and Maddaford have written mid-season Phoenix
reviews.
Some very interesting differences in emphasis and
perspective.
Check them out:
What does everyone reckon?
Marius Lacatus2007-11-02 10:42:42
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I think that both were fair in their representations of the
Phoenix's performance thus far. Whilst Terry focussed on the
comparision is wasn't unfair at all.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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In the Dom Sports supplement, alongside the comparision review
Woodcock did (as posted above), he has done a statistical/factual
Knights vs Phoenix comparison. Unfortunately, its not online.
While im not a fan of making comparisons, if people are going
to make them, they should be done properly and looking at all the
facts - which Woodcock has done really well. It is pretty
compelling.
That is not to say Maddaford's comparison was unreasonable,
but when you see the stats and facts Woodcock has provided, you can
see that there is a lot more to making comparisons than where the
two sides sit/sat on the league table.
Marius Lacatus2007-11-02 11:10:01
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I thought Fred's piece was excellent - the Dom coverage of the
Phoenix has been the business.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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Maddaford wrote -
Too many under-performing, over-paid
footballers who, by all accounts, were signed on as being more than
capable, are again dragging the game down to a level where sometime
soon A-League bosses might say "enough is enough".
which IMHO is COMPLETE BOLLIX!!!
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
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If comparisons are going to be made shouldn't they be made on
the first seasons performance by the Knights which was truly
abysmal?
By the way Terry who are these "under-performing, over-paid footballers"?
By the way Terry who are these "under-performing, over-paid footballers"?
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I thought this was a pretty
accurate summation in a few sentences in the Woodcock
article.
�It
has been a rollercoaster ride already - and there has certainly
been a lot of rubbish said about the Wellington Phoenix over the
past 10 weeks.
�After the round six 4-1 win against Perth at Westpac Stadium they were being touted by many as A-League top four certainties. It was nonsense then and will remain nonsense till the Phoenix can get some stability across the park.
�Now, after four straight losses, some pundits have them down as being no better than the Knights - once again, nonsense.�
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i'm with dairy flat and sanday re the sweeping statements re
'under performance, over payment etc."
Maddaford also used the term "marginally better" (if i remember correctly to describe a situation where we have double the Knightz points) that for me exemplifies the difference in tone between the two articles
It also interests me the assumption made that crowds will automatically fall if there are further losses in the near future - yes such results wouldn't help - but there is a culture of football fandom growing in wellington that might surprise some commentators with its loyalty.
edit 10pm ish, just opened hard copy of Dom sports, (as ML said) much more than impressive than online- impressive double page of Phoenix analysis - well done fred woodcock!
tigers2007-11-02 22:26:41
Maddaford also used the term "marginally better" (if i remember correctly to describe a situation where we have double the Knightz points) that for me exemplifies the difference in tone between the two articles
It also interests me the assumption made that crowds will automatically fall if there are further losses in the near future - yes such results wouldn't help - but there is a culture of football fandom growing in wellington that might surprise some commentators with its loyalty.
edit 10pm ish, just opened hard copy of Dom sports, (as ML said) much more than impressive than online- impressive double page of Phoenix analysis - well done fred woodcock!
tigers2007-11-02 22:26:41
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