News Discussion and Football Blogging

Romanos compares Bahrain to San Marino

29 replies · 1,130 views
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Romanos compares Bahrain to San Marino
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Romanos is an idiot. No-one with an ounce of brain would have even thought about writing that.
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I know its off topic, but cricinfo had a series where 10 New Zealand journalists picked the all time NZ test XI.  Romanos was the only person to not pick Vetorri.  Apparently Bracewell is much better.  I have no time for any opinion of his.
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I can see his point.
Andorra play in red.
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Who plays for FC Timbuktu?

Three for me, and two for them.

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hardnews can you clear your inbox I'm trying to PM you.  Cheers

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Who plays for FC Timbuktu?


Mr Happy, Mr Tickle, Mr Nonsence....
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
Romanos is an idiot. No-one with an ounce of brain would have even thought about writing that.
 
as much as i agree with the sentiment, it wasn't him who made the comparison, according to the article some European journo made the reference, Romanos simply agreed. I think his point was more around the fact that two footballing minnows could make it to the world cup when some of the big teams wont.
theprof2009-10-16 07:12:04

Queenslander 3x a year.

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
theprof wrote:
sa much as i agree with the sentiment, it wasn't him who made the comparison, according to the article some European journo made the reference, Romanos simply agreed. I think his point wsa more around the fact that two footballing minnows could make it to the world cup when some of the big teams wont.


He's an idiot for agreeing with it, it's a ridicuolus comparison.
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Romanos is a jackass.

He has to downplay any team sport that isnt Union or Netball.

He's using a old journalist trick, basically by saying "Im not saying this BUT"


Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hello. To be fair to Joseph, he's NOT a big rugby fan. He once told me his family used to think it was so funny having others accuse him of being a rugby head, they used to keep cuttings and stick them on the kitchen fridge.
 
Joseph has a wide knowledge bank of a host of sports, from athletics, to tennis, to cricket and bowls. He was himself a top squash player back in the early 70s. Today he is chairman of NZ Squash's hall of fame selection panel.
 
He's one of our most prolific commentators authors on sport though I've always felt football was his achilles heel.
 
 
 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/nzsportsprogrammes

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
His treatment of Football and Basketball is poor.

He is always negative when it comes to these two sports, and factually incorrect on many occasions.
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
 
 
uhm..

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Epic Fail!!!
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He just mentioned it in a back-up article this week ("Football Fans Are A Strange Bunch"). He obviously reads what us moaners write. No mention of Andorra or San Marino funnily enough.
We all know how the World Cup works Joseph.

Founder

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

And i see this time he decided not to provide a facility for comments.

He is classic denial. Criticims directed at him were almost entirely the result of his ridiculous comparison of Bahrain and San Marino, which he conveniently ignored in his response. The thing is if he had acknowledged, in hindsight, it was a silly comparison to have made and got on with the rest of his column he probably would have earned some respect.
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
"Here's the thing: Sweden, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Northern Ireland, Poland, Wales, Turkey, Croatia, Belarus, Austria, Bulgaria and Scotland have been eliminated from the World Cup reckoning after European qualifying matches.

Ecuador, Colombia and Venezuela, of the leading South American countries, are also out.

Meanwhile New Zealand needs just one good day to get through.

You can understand why fans in those eliminated countries cock an eyebrow towards a New Zealand-Bahrain qualifier.

If some who rushed to trumpet their football knowledge stopped to think about it, they'd see the point.
"


Here's another point. It's the WORLD cup and there are places set aside for regions of the world.

I think something like that happens in the eggball WC doesn't it? If some who rushed to trumpet their sports knowledge stopped to think about it, they'd see the point.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I loved the Rattue article the other week saying we shoul;dn't go because we would be beaten.  He'll be the first to talk ablout plucky little underdogs only getting humped by 60 at the Rugby equivalent.

How's my driving? - Whine here

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Maybe we shouldn't turn up for our own tournament in 2011. We'll only get beaten in the quarterfinals.

Serves us right for being ubertolerant and misty eyed (whatever that means... probably something a one-eyed Cantab thought up)

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Junior82 wrote:
"Here's the thing: Sweden, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Northern Ireland, Poland, Wales, Turkey, Croatia, Belarus, Austria, Bulgaria and Scotland have been eliminated from the World Cup reckoning after European qualifying matches.

Ecuador, Colombia and Venezuela, of the leading South American countries, are also out.

Meanwhile New Zealand needs just one good day to get through.

You can understand why fans in those eliminated countries cock an eyebrow towards a New Zealand-Bahrain qualifier.

If some who rushed to trumpet their football knowledge stopped to think about it, they'd see the point.
"


Here's another point. It's the WORLD cup and there are places set aside for regions of the world.

I think something like that happens in the eggball WC doesn't it? If some who rushed to trumpet their sports knowledge stopped to think about it, they'd see the point.


Hungary? Northern Ireland? Wales? Poland? Belarus? Austria?

f**k off Romanos. You know nothing about football.
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Junior82 wrote:
"Here's the thing: Sweden, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Northern Ireland, Poland, Wales, Turkey, Croatia, Belarus, Austria, Bulgaria and Scotland have been eliminated from the World Cup reckoning after European qualifying matches.


 
If these countries are so upset on missing out on the World Cup, for nations from all over the world, maybe they should start their own, European-only tournament.
 
Oh wait...
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's bullsh*t - when was the last time Hungary/Northern Ireland/Wales qualified for the World Cup?

I'll tell you - 1986 for Hungary/Northern Ireland, 1958 for Wales. Belarus has never qualified.

Of the other European teams he mentions, Turkey/Bulgaria/Czech Republic/Scotland/Austria have only intermitently qualified for World Cups ove the past 2-3 decades, and none of them would ever assume it's their divine right to be at the World Cup. Sweden and Croatia are the only two teams on that list that have been qualifying regularly, and their failure to do so this time is hardly New Zealand's or Bahrain's fault.

Same goes for South American teams he mentions - Venezuela has never qualified, Colombia haven't since 1998, and Ecuador were there in 2002 and 2006, but that's the only two they've been to so far. Hardly powerhouses that have been mercilessly ripped off by FIFA's dodgy qualifying system.

Stick to squash Romanos.
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
isn' the point that Romanos is making is that the aforementioned countries have world rankings higher than New Zealand, but have found themselves on the qualification outer because they are required to qualify against much tougher opposition.
 
That is one of the joys of football, (but which does not apply in other codes' world cups)
 
The fact has also been pointed out by numerous football commentators.
 
We shouldn't get all foamy mouthed about it. its just a point of discussion.
 
 
 
 
 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/nzsportsprogrammes

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
isn' the point that Romanos is making is that the aforementioned countries have world rankings higher than New Zealand, but have found themselves on the qualification outer because they are required to qualify against much tougher opposition.
 
That is one of the joys of football, (but which does not apply in other codes' world cups)
 
The fact has also been pointed out by numerous football commentators.
 
We shouldn't get all foamy mouthed about it. its just a point of discussion.
 
 
Hang on BH - I thought there were qualifying matches for Rugby WC.
 
For Football there are a huge number of nations so there has to be qualifying rounds even if regional representation wasn't an issue.
 
For other "world cups" in the team sports that are popular here you could almost invite all the playing nations and still struggle to get more than a conventional quarter-final set up.
 
And of course when there are American sports their world cups are usually USA and maybe canada if they're feeling generous.
 
Right.  Off to wipe the foam off my mouth..
Junior822009-10-23 12:38:26

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
isn' the point that Romanos is making is that the aforementioned countries have world rankings higher than New Zealand, but have found themselves on the qualification outer because they are required to qualify against much tougher opposition.
 
That is one of the joys of football, (but which does not apply in other codes' world cups)
 
The fact has also been pointed out by numerous football commentators.
 
We shouldn't get all foamy mouthed about it. its just a point of discussion.
 
 
 
 
 
Bruce, I disagree with you on this one. He originally made the ridiculous comparion between Bahrain and San Marino (and quoted a 'blogger' saying NZ "couldnt beat FC Timbuktu"). That is why people unleashed on him. His riposte conveniently ignores that comparison and addresses the more reasonable (but still rather inane) point that a whole lot of countries miss out on the world cup. As I said before, if he wanted a right of reply, that's fine, but he should have acknowledged it was silly to compare Bahrain with the last equal ranked team in the world.
Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
isn' the point that Romanos is making is that the aforementioned countries have world rankings higher than New Zealand, but have found themselves on the qualification outer because they are required to qualify against much tougher opposition.
 
That is one of the joys of football, (but which does not apply in other codes' world cups)
 
The fact has also been pointed out by numerous football commentators.
 
We shouldn't get all foamy mouthed about it. its just a point of discussion.
 
 
well his point was actually that folk from these countries were up in arms at us having a shot. This is untrue. Football supporters understand the way the WC qualifying has almays worked - and accept it. I have never had anyone from one of the high quality countires that has missed out have a go at NZ (or a country in another federation)

Founder

Permalink Permalink
over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
isn' the point that Romanos is making is that the aforementioned countries have world rankings higher than New Zealand, but have found themselves on the qualification outer because they are required to qualify against much tougher opposition.
�

That is one of the joys of football, (but which does not apply in other codes' world cups)

�

The fact has also been pointed out by numerous football commentators.

�

We shouldn't get all foamy mouthed about it. its just a point of discussion.

�

�

�

�

�


Yes, but their higher ranking stems from the fact they play against tougher opposition, so you can't have it both ways. Pluck Hungary into Oceania, and their ranking will be where we are now.

Like I said, it's an absolutely ridiculously stupid point to make.

Not that I think he's ever made a good point about anything else relating to any other sport. Omitting Vetorri from NZ best test XI? Puhhh-lease. They guy wants to appear informed and analytical, when in reality he comes across as a t**ser.
Permalink Permalink