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ANZC Final

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Lonegunmen wrote:
Being a good loser is as important as being a good winner.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lonegunmen]I was sitting in the fever zone, no one can figure out how Lawerence allowed the try when the cantab actually dropped the ball. But I was told he gave Hawkes bay the same treatment last week that he dished out to Wellington tonight. The second question to be asked was, Did Canterbury actually have a moment when they were not offside? No one runs that fast and they were up on the Wellington guys before they even received the ball.
 
I dont mind Wellington losing to a better team, but when they lose to a bunch of cheating pricks, I do. there were so many professional fouls, killing the ball by Ritchie Mccheating prick, yet the refs appear as if they are scared to penalise him in case they dont get a test match to ref.
 
Steve Walsh is bad enough so too is Kelvin Deaker, but now Bryce Lawerence has shown he too can ruin a good game with a substandard peice of biased reffing. I gather that the commentators were saying as much as well.
 
Canterbury, if you had won fair and square I would have accepted it. But you cheated with the referees full endorsement & encouragement, what a hollow victory. Mind you, WHO holds the Ranfurly Shield??

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Hahah well put Linds

I was at the game, very disappointing, Cantebury defence was amazing. Looked like a legit try to me but I was side on.

As far as them cheating goes, i wouldn't say they cheat but they use the rules very well to their advantage. Rolling away so as to slow the ball, getting out of the way buy getting in the way. Just little things that the Crusaders and Cantebury both do very well and kudos to them for it. Was talking to the sideline referee manager at the pub after the game and he echoed similar sentiments.

In saying all of that though we had chances to win the game (Mathewson throwing the worst pass of his life when he had CJ steaming up on his outside comes to mind) and didn't take them.

My other observation would be that Wellington Rugby as a whole still has a problem with a lack of intelligence, things were done last night that I just sat there scratching my head and on turning around to look in the coaches box so were Jamie and Andre. We will never compete with any Cantebury team until we learn how to play smart.
In saying all that though i think the Canes will give the Crusaders a real go next year
Over and out

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linds in contention for post of the year!

Well done Cantabs, the better team one. The hall-marks of Wellington rugby seem to be poor psychology for me, always choking when it actually counts. Canterbury played like the team that deserved to Cup, and got it.

Glad to see a decent amount of Cantab fans there - of course tonnes of Canterbury fans live here already, but I'm going to assume for the better. Good to bump into Wumbo on the way out too.

Not entirely sure if I'll renew my season pass next year. If Welly Rugby hire a sports psychologist, consider it renewed
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
And I just went to support the Phoenix
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I'm super stoked good hard fought win, Must admit though Wellington played some stupid rugby. How may times could they have taken a drop kick and won the match?

Still was a good night. Gotta love the sledging from some Wellingtonians and I'm not above giving it back
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Heard a lot of people round me talking about the phoenix. On that theme well kind of the more I think about the game the more one thing gets to me. The Crowd. Put it this way if that was the Nix with 15 to go tied or a goal down exerting that kind of pressure 6 or 7 thousand would have riden the boys home. 19,000 last night and we couldn't do it, well we managed a wellington clap clap clap.
Shared a joke behind me with a guy who had been talking nix about if he starte a chant id join in, now on recollection its just strange because normally i would have no issue starting a chant.
So my point is this maybe, though im not to sure the thought is still forming in my mind. The crowd could have bought us home last night, i really do think that. Maybe next year the few of us on here who are rugby fans could try and get together to try and do something about it. But anyway those are my musings

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bopman wrote:
Maybe next year the few of us on here who are rugby fans could try and get together to try and do something about it.


I think one of the things the fever could do is support ALL Wellington Sports teams, weather it be the firebirds, Hurricanes, Saints, Lions, TW and of course The Phoenix.

Get some atmosphere in NZ Sports.
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No the fever powers have made it clear the fever does football and football only but there is nothing to stop a few of us getting together outside the fever banner

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Ah ok was unaware of that.
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Did Jamie Joseph go to the Ricki Herbert School of substitutions? brings two players on with 4 minutes to go.
 
I thought Joseph made some tactical errors. Last week he had a bright idea of having two props didn't work you would think in his mind that you could just drop the idea of having both but he continued with it and the two props he brought on weakened our scrum.
Everybody knew our breakdown was our weakness and he did little to change this, Lilo had a very good game but there trio was always going to be stronger so the idea of getting all of the forwards working at the breakdown might have been a good idea instead of Thrush, Filipo and the front row standing in the backline to much trying to get there hands on the ball too much.
With only 2 backs on the bench we lacked any spark from the bench while Tuipolotu is fairly decent Kirkpatrik was unproven due to the lack of faith in him all of a sudden when he became fit.
Would have liked Weepu into halfback late in the game when Matheson was starting to loop his passes out to first five.
 
Canterbury made alot of surprising mistakes early on and didn't look like a great team but they grinded out a win. Bryce Lawrence wasn't very good either he didn't even consider giving them a warning after all those full arm penalty infringement in the first half.
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I think your point in regards to the bench is interesting, the 5-2 split suits the pattern they have been trying to play all year, wear teams down and kick away in the last 10. Last night Canterbury were to professional to let that happen. With regards to the backs I think it was a case of not having much to work with, outside Kirkpatrick and Tuipolotu you could go to Hobbs, Popualii or Umaga-Marshall who are all equally unproven. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but maybe putting Ma'a on the bench and starting Tane would have been a better option, giving Ma'a 25 minutes to run at tiring defenders when he has a full tank

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robbwatson wrote:
linds in contention for post of the year!

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