The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.
The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.
The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.
that's gimptastic
...after forcing them to watch Dancing with the stars...
(To be serious - Removal of license and crushing their car, plus community service. Jail time for repeat offenders.)
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All boy/girl racers should be stoned and made to watch their cars get crushed, or even better sold to an old granny!!!!
Queenslander 3x a year.
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
By the way that guy in the mask is the same guy who tried to run me over outside Macdonalds in Newtown i recognise his missus at the back with the red hair , shes always on the pokies at the Zoo bar in the afore mentioned strange suburb,mad eh!!
The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.
Ouch!!
Kiwi Jambo2008-03-13 19:03:05
The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
Here is what happens if a boy racer is caught doing wheelies (i.e. 'sustained loss of traction')
1) Placed under arrest
2) Vehicle impounded automatically for 28 days (no questions asked - remember they haven't even been found guilty yet))
3) Pays for a lawyer - $$$$$$
4) Pays about $400 to get car back after the 28 days is up
5) Goes to court - receives approx $500 fine (minimum) and gets disqualified for 6 months (minimum).
6) If caught driving when disqualified then repeat the above.
Laws do exist for the mandatory confiscation of vehicles. This is where a person has been convicted twice within a space of four years of committing certain offences (i.e dangerous driving, drink driving, failing to stop etc) when using a vehicle.
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
Then it will teach the parents to be more responsible with lending their vehicle. It's the same as a parent having a firearm in the house - it is their responsibility to keep it locked away and only lend it (if at all) to people responsible enough to handle it. It is not the fault of the parents, true, but the consequences should be consistent. Especially with it being common for teens to have their car registered as their parents for insurance purposes.
I would hope that the guilt of being responsible for your parents losing their car would be a major deterrent to anyone tempted to commit dangerous conduct in an automobile.
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
the ones that are cocks
Spot on. There�s just as many middle-aged people who drive just as irresponsibly.
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
As for the earlier point of the car value difference - Frankly I'd think that a parent would be MUCH more hesitant to lend Little Timmy their $50k car thank their $500 one. I do agree with you that the rule can seem unfair - especially if the parent doesn't realise what their kids are up to in mom or dad's car - but at what specific price does it become unfair? Do we only crush cars up to the value of, say, $5000? Who decides the value? And how will the value limit adjust to inflation?
The problem with the car being the parents is purely insurance - teens will get their car registered as mom or dad's and their insurance premiums plummet. An all-sweeping rule is needed to avoid loopholes.
The other consideration is WHY the example car costs $50K. Is it because mom and dad invested in a nice model vehicle? Or did Little Timmy buy a second hand car then spent thousands of dollars and hours tricking it out, adding all the crap to make it a racing car instead of a vehicle to get from A to B ie spoilers, nos, rims etc - which is the main reason why car crushing is so effective as a deterrent - "I've spent so much money and effort on my car, I don't want to risk losing it by breaking the law, so I'll save any racing for legal events, on legal premises"
I feel the only way a car SHOULDN'T be crushed is if the offender stole the vehicle, so that the car can be returned to the legal owner while the offender has both the original crime against the state of whatever caused them be arrested in the first place (be it speeding, drunk driving, illegal street racing etc) as well as a grand theft auto charge. The loophole for this is for the legal owner (mom and dad) to say "Our child stole the family car, but we refuse to place charges against our own son" in which case they escape the grand theft auto charge. However they shall still face the charge of whatever crime they committed in the first place, which hopefully will be sufficient
enough to prevent them from re-offending is confiscation of license.
That being said - I have no problems with boy racers who follow the law. They can do whatever they want on race-dedicated areas, be them race tracks, areas set aside for burnouts etc - but I have no time for anyone, regardless of what kind of driver they are - that puts the lives on anyone at unreasonable risk on the road.
So are you calling Cliff Curtis a teenager?
So, you�re against irresponsible driving. So am I, and pretty much most people in New Zealand. So why is it that a certain sub-section of NZ population gets the majority of the negative press when it comes to irresponsible driving...the very title of this thread testifies to that. The real problems with driving in New Zealand are much more deep-seated:
1. Our roads are way too sh*t for the kind of cars which are generally available to anyone with enough money in this country.
2. It�s way to easy to get a driver�s license in this country.
Put these together, and you have a recipe for significant problems. Blaming one (admittedly often irresponsible) section of drivers is simply scape-goating.
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I�m not arguing that that�s not the case, just that NZ�s driving-related problems are much more deep-rooted than that, and that I think it�s a cop-out to simply blame one section of the driving population for the problems.
Glad to hear you�re a responsible driver LG, wish there were more people like you out there.
