Kahui Not Guilty
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WTF? just read it on stuff - verdict given after 2-3 hours deliverating after a 6 week trial!
If he didn't then who the f**k did! The mother! Surely those two kids didn't die in vain, someone has to go down for their deaths.
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Yes, someone has to go down, however we can't convict people if there isn't enough proof. I know we want someone convicted ASAP however it would be wrong to convict someone if there was enough doubt they didn't do it because we were "angry" (probably isnt correct word - just can't think of one).
It's almost certain the mother will get charged, lets just hope (if she did do it) thats there is enough evidence to convict her.
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maybe the police case against him wasn't as strong as some members of the publics opinions have been.
he deserved and got a fair trial, now let him get on with his life.which i'm picking he will only be able to do outside of n.z now
he deserved and got a fair trial, now let him get on with his life.which i'm picking he will only be able to do outside of n.z now
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I know we want someone convicted ASAP however it would be wrong to convict someone if there was enough doubt they didn't do it because we were "angry" (probably isnt correct word - just can't think of one).
It's almost certain the mother will get charged, lets just hope (if she did do it) thats there is enough evidence to convict her.
Agreed, if he 's innocent then I have no issues with the decsion, but then my questioning begins to look at the police and why they foccussed solely on Kahui and not the mother in their original investigation - this could have been over and done with if they'd pressed charges against her earlier? It annoys me a bit that the tax payer has had all this money spent chasing a supposedly innocent man, whilst the actual criminal is sitting watching proceedings.
there's a lot wrong with the entire case, especially that none of the family would come forward and pin point who did kill the kids - surely at least one of them know.
theprof2008-05-22 15:19:31Queenslander 3x a year.
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The way this case was handled was screwed from the start. Remember the family forming a cocoon and not helping the investigation?
Every prick involved with obstructing the investigation is just as guilty as the f*ckwit who killed the kids.
String the f*cking lot of 'em up I say... 
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According to one report I read, the jury only took 15 minutes to return a not guilty verdict.
Must have been a very average case from the Crown.
Must have been a very average case from the Crown.
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You can be convicted for obstructing an investigation can't you? If so then I agree that they should take the whole family to court.
loyalgunner2008-05-22 18:04:08
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1] I don't think he did it or if he did, he was not alone. I think he was taking the rap for other party/s
2] All 12-15 family members whom stalled successfully the Police investigation for some time should all be chargd with a) perverting the course of justice, b) accessory to the fact, 3) accessory to murder
3] Despite what the Police said tonight, the case should be re-openned until the real murderer is found.
4] The prosecution case assembler should be looking in "situations Vacant" after preparing a weak case - at best - against Kahui.
5] The police staff whom did not re-interview the mother at the time need to be held accountable.
6] As previously said on here, two innocent infants have been murdered, the case is not solved, the Police should be embarrassed, ashamed and re-openning the case. The family involved should all be ashamed, embarrased and the guilty party/s should have the balls to confess and take their punishment. Not to, just proved what a gutless bunch of chicken sh*ts that whole family are!
Lonegunmen2008-05-23 02:24:48Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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i wouldn't hire him
I like tautologies because I like them.
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The way this case was handled was screwed from the start. Remember the family forming a cocoon and not helping the investigation?
Every prick involved with obstructing the investigation is just as guilty as the f*ckwit who killed the kids.
String the f*cking lot of 'em up I say...
except for your scary f**king avatar video i agree with what you have to say. They should have arrested all of them, they just gave up, what a fantastic message to send to the rest of the community - you don't speak noone gets prosecuted. Go NZ.
smarah2008-05-22 22:26:06
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You can be convicted for obstructing an investigation can't you?� If so then I agree that they should take the whole family to court.
You can, but evidential rules still apply. You can't take people to the court because you think, or have a gut-feeling, that they tried to obstruct the investigation.
I would imagine if the police had evidence to take them to court on such charges, they would have.
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This whole case sends a "great" message to any family who has issues that end up in court, everyone clam up, hide evidence from the cops and they will waste time in a six week trial and eventually you'll get of scott free.
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It's complete BS, the prosecution & police involved screwed the pooch proper from the sounds of things.
The fact that theres a possibility that no-one will ever be made accountable for a double murder staggers me.
Whoever did it will what's coming one way or another though.
Karma's a bitch...
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I'm not surprised by the verdict. I have been following this case closely and I too thought it was going to be not guilty. While it may seem that he was the likely person in terms of opportunity, the quickness of the deliberation suggests that there was plenty of doubt whether he did it or not.
Unfortunately, if people (or families) in this case didn't want to speak then there is not much the police can do. Everyone has the right to remain silent. As is the case overseas as well. I suspect that the remaining family actually had no idea who did it. But yet they are going to have to live with it for the rest of their life.
I can't see how the police could go after the mother now. If there was reasonable doubt regarding Chris then there must be reasonable doubt regarding her. So it seems we will never know the true story.
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I agree with the Karma comment. I just hope Karma looks after the entire group of persons in that family who hindered the entire investigation.
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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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from a legalistic standpoint there is absolutely no way on the facts presented in the media you could find him guilty. theyre saying it took the jury 10 minutes, im suprised it even took them that long. you could never say there wasnt reasonable doubt.
someone does need to go down for this, i think the mother should be very closely looked at. this seems like the latest in a string pf police stuff ups. someone needs to take a very serious look at themselves over this.
in terms of trying the mother there are some legal issues which arise in terms of eveidence that is already prejudiced, there would have to be new evidence to convict the mother aswell.
id lvoe to know what really went on in the early stages of the investigation re the family.
was a tradgedy and someone needs to go down for it
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Bopman: When you say someone needs to go down for this, do you mean someone within the police ranks or someone charged for the murders?
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id lvoe to know what really went on in the early stages of the investigation re the family.
AFAIK, they closed ranks and put up a wall of silence to protect a baby killer.
Human garbage...
Milky Pisswit2008-05-23 12:49:51
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I've been given the impression (both by people I've talked to and from my own observations) that there is a real "arrest first, investigation later" attitude in our police force and they focus on one suspect blindly.
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maybe that's because the public demand someone be brought to justice,especially in cases like this.
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I've been given the impression (both by people I've talked to and from my own observations) that there is a real "arrest first, investigation later" attitude in our police force and they focus on one suspect blindly.
I read a book last summer about the David Bain investigation. It was bloody interesting. THat was definatly arrest first investigate later.
I don't get the feeling that this was the case here. IF there isn't enough evidence to convict someone then there isn't much you can do about it. Obviously the police thought that no new evidence would turn up and that with the evidence they had they charged him.
The problem was that it was circumstancial evidence. And it seems that the jury wasn't complely conifident of his guilt.
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Bopman: When you say someone needs to go�down for this, do you mean someone within the police ranks or someone charged for the murders?
i initially meant someone for the murders but on further thought and ivestigation i think someone in the police should be called to task for this. not because they got it wrong but it seems they got it systemically wrong, there is a worrying trend in our police at the moment as has been discussed, well illustrated by the zimbabwean girl.
as for bain, i read the privy council judgement last year and dear me the police royally f**ked that one up. the whole case rests on timing and the initial police timing was done with a watch that was slow and had no second hand. deary deary me.
its a shame really, the police do some great work (getting a conviction in the edgeware road murders and finding the killer of the girl in chch to name just a few) but it is there stuff ups the media spend more time on
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I've been given the impression (both by people I've talked to and from my own observations) that there is a real "arrest first, investigation later" attitude in our police force and they focus on one suspect blindly.
I read a book last summer about the David Bain investigation. It was bloody interesting. THat was definatly arrest first investigate later.
I don't get the feeling that this was the case here. IF there isn't enough evidence to convict someone then there isn't much you can do about it. Obviously the police thought that no new evidence would turn up and that with the evidence they had they charged him.
The problem was that it was circumstancial evidence. And it seems that the jury wasn't complely conifident of his guilt.
You're pretty much dead if you go into a case with only circumstancial evidence unless it is very very compelling. Even then you've still got slim to no chance of winning, reasonable doubt is a bitch for prosecution lawyers.
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New Zealand is so sh*t. I'm writing an essay on child abuse in NZ and my case study is Nia Glassie, I never thought I could be so emotionally moved by an assignment, have been crying through the whole thing.
Anyone who abuses a child needs some serious help and put on the washing line for people to throw blocks of wood at. It's f**king disgusting.
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People who get convicted for child abuse are always the most hated in prison and for good reason. Put them through the same sh*t they put the child through and see how they like it.
Three for me, and two for them.
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People who get convicted for child abuse are always the most hated in prison and for good reason. Put them through the same sh*t they put the child through and see how they like it.�
Ermm...I'm no psychologist, but I think you'll find many already have.
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