Phoenix Punks

Cheers T-X, might go along and check them out.

No Rat Scabies is a shame but at least there's no risk he'll set himself on fire.

I was tentaively booked in for a Uni reunion...so now i am having a moral dilemma. Sadly, none of the guys I kicked around with at Uni would appreciate F. K. Stubbs and co. , so can't combine the two.

They are playing some other gigs around the UK at the same time. Gotta be done, surely!!

• Leatherface + The Cut Ups at The Fighting Cocks, Kingston upon Thames on 10 Dec 2011
  Location: The Fighting Cocks The Legendary Leatherface play The Fighting Cocks...
• Leatherface + The Cut Ups at The Croft, Bristol on 7 Dec 2011
  Location: The Croft
• Leatherface in Manchester on 9 Dec 2011
  Location: Night & Day Caf� FRIDAY 9th DECEMBER 2011 AT NIGHT...
• Leatherface + The Arteries + The Slow Death + more at Exeter Cavern, Exeter on 8 Dec 2011
  Location: Exeter Cavern

 

I think I have two choices:

1. Dip out of Liverpool reunion and do London on 10th
2. Manchester on 9th and reunion on 10th

If Family Hotspur weren't with me I'd be tempted to do all 4 nights!HarryHotspur2011-10-20 17:10:50

I'm jealous!

How long are you in the UK for? There's bound to be some other good stuff on, especially if you're in London at all.

6 weeks.

Voodoo Glow Skulls are in London on Dec 13th, which is highly probable on my list too.

HarryHotspur2011-10-20 21:32:25

Who do voodoo, we do, f**k you!

Mate, I am totally living vicariously through you at the moment. I had a look at what's on, what a great time to be in London!

Stargreen Box Office - December

Dec 1 Superchunk
Dec 2/3 Grant Hart
Dec 3 Agent Orange
Dec 3 Cathedral
Dec 3 King Kurt
Dec 9 Eddie & The Hot Rods + The Members
Dec 9 The Vibrators
Dec 10 Klub Foot - Guana Batz
Dec 10 GBH
Dec 10 Big D and the Kids Table
Dec 11 The Rezillos
Dec 13 Gallows
Dec 13 Hot Snakes (John Reis - Rocket From The Crypt)
Dec 16 The Business
Dec 16 Napalm Death
Dec 17 UK Subs
Dec 17 Voodoo Glow Skulls
Dec 18 Subhumans

Drooooool.

You could also throw in Thurston Moore, Machine Head, De La Soul, Jeru the Damaja and Geno Washington if that's your thing.

F*ck me. That's almost worth flying over for a few weeks!!

Well, I am probably going to have to make Dec 16 & 17 a double header.

I've never seen ND live, and while they have long since dropped the incredible hardcore of their first two LPs, I can go a bit of quality metal every now and again. Now, how the hell do i tell family Hotspur?

terminator_x2011-10-21 13:51:02

THE WIND & RAIN & PHOENIX

Less choices.

Leatherface Tues 6 December booked: Derby.

Kingston Upon Thames is offically the most innaccessible London Suburb, as it requires taking the M25 towards Heathrow before cutting in. I reckon it will take me 30mins less going North from Bedford to Derby, despite it being probably 50km longer.

For Leatherface, I'd do anything.

Now to break the news to the family about Napalam Death and Voodoo Glow Skulls...HarryHotspur2011-10-27 20:04:09

Nicely done.

Considering seeing the Business at Bodega after Friday's game even though I don't really know any of their material.

It will be loud and shouty.

So it'll be just like the game.  Hmmmmm.   Sounds good.

Good to see the Klub Foot back in business and the Guana Batz too. Ok it won't be the same as the old Clarendon but good to see nevertheless.

Shame this aint two weeks later. Wonder if they know Elctro Hippies 'Sheep'?

http://www.theunderworldcamden.co.uk/gigs/eventdetails/20-nov-11-punk-rock-karaoke-feat-underworld/

For some reason my links never work. try browser pasting!HarryHotspur2011-11-14 23:28:22

Not exactly Punk, but The Bats play at the Kings Arms Tavern on Sat

Is that part of the 30th birthday bash?

Yep

Might look at seeing The Clean as much as I like the Bats who I have seen a couple of times, I've never seen The Clean.

Whats your opinion on the new Blink 182 album

and even less punky the new Angels & Airwaves album?

THis should be amusing.

Check out this largely unheralded Kiwi punk band from the early eighties, Nee Bulcraig. Their bastardisation/dubification of Anti Pasti's No Government with its' No David Lange' mantra is either a work of genius or utter tripe. I can't decide which one. TheJam2011-11-25 10:29:40

Tripe  

Well, for starters I have no idea why they would get mentioned in a punk thread.

Yeah, if you are going to start on about Blink 182 in this thread I might bring up Val Doonican. He's as punk as they are, cable-patterned jumpers and all.

Well written review of the new Sticky Filth album here:

http://manualmagazine.com/2011/11/29/music-haze-sticky-filth%E2%80%94fourth-domain/

They were the first band I ever saw play in a bar way back in the late 80's.Product2011-12-01 12:56:08

I like Blink 182, well I liked them ~10 years ago and not as much of there stuff since. I would say they were very much a punk band, and gradually became less so

The line is certainly very blurred nowadays. When I first got into punk (circa 1979) it had started to mutate into punk on one side (Slaughter ATD, 999, Pistols, Clash, SLF etc) and New Wave on the other (Costello, The Vapors, Devo etc). In fact, quite a few of the New Wave bands were punk bands that went off on a different tack, The Jam being probably the most notable example.

I recall seeing green day as spotty 18yr olds and they were punk ass fcuk! Inflammatory...? Certainly weren't pop as I was one of about 50 in attendance! Although it was in hull...HarryHotspur2011-12-02 11:02:36

The original straight-edgers absolutely believed that they were reacting against a doctrine though. That was the whole point - they didn't want to be associated with the typical american middle-class, high-school jock, getting drunk, smoking weed and listening to Van Halen. So they said "we're different, and this is how". Of course, like anything worthwhile it didn't take long for it to become misinterpreted and indoctrinated itself. I would still classify Minor Threat as one of the great punk (hardcore?) bands of all time though and I don't think Ian MacKaye has ever had a non-punk thought in his life. In fact, the whole Fugazi/Dischord thing would be close to representing punk at its best for me - intelligent people doing things on their own terms, with very few concessions to the mainstream or cultural conformity, but without sloganeering.

I agree with what you say about straight edge TermX, and, like anything, it's original meaning gets diluted with the passing of time and misinterpretation of original intent. And by trendy bandwaggon jumpers too, who maybe like the look but don't get the message.

Straight edge I thought didn't come as a back lash to jocks and their drinking, drugs etc., rather the self destructive bent of a lot of punks of that time (and still). The 'X' on the hand was so that at all age shows kids had an x on their hand so they wouldn't be served alcohol, this was adopted by what became the straight edge movement.

And I don't think you can generalise punk too much dependent on lyrical content, you could then just about not include bands like NOFX and Teenage Bottlerocket and again on the polished sound, it is so easy now days to do it yourself and it sounds polished.

I don't know what you know of Blink 182, but I still they were very much a punk band and like a lot of other punk bands, changed their sound to a more mainstream sound once gaining commercial success