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Phoenix Punks

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think a lot of it probably depends on age...I remember the rise of the Epitaph record label and the Descendents surprisingly being lumped in with those young players due to signing to the same label. I also remember thinking a Blink 182 song off that album with the nurse on the cover sounded like a Descendents song and then heard another of their songs which sounded exactly the same to my ears...and this lasted the entire album. I guess it worked for The Ramones(who also could be argued to be a pop band).

Holding back on even commenting on Nofx. I suspect the appeal maybe in the humour. I always got more from the likes of Sloppy Seconds, The Dead Milkmen and The Angry Samoans but that's probably age playing a part once again.

Product2011-12-02 18:51:03
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Hey chaps, good reading and informative.

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Interestingly, I didn't discover most US punk until quite a bit later, maybe 1983-84. There was almost a snob factor here; aside from The Ramones, Dead Kennedys first album and, to some, Devo, it was UK punk only, umbilical chord syndrome I guess.
Then I bought a compilation called Let Them Eat Jellybeans, which was fantastic and opened my ears to the likes of Geza X, Flipper and, of course, the must haves of Black Flag and Bad Brains. And from this came my devotion to the phenomenal Husker Du.
Later, I got into Rancid (up to and including Life Won't Wait), Offspring (up to and not including Americana) and the Dropkick Murphys. The Hellcat label was quite brilliant for a while, and the ska stuff released on there was fantastic (Slackers, Gadgits, Hepcat etc).
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.

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What are you guys fav local acts and songs in general?

For NZ I would say Sommerset were my favourite band, for Wellington was Brubeck. Special mention to The Offbeats for consistently good times.

http://www.youtube.com/user/shacknasty
Brubeck live at James Cabaret supporting Millencolin in 2000 is uploaded here, along with Sommerset live at Valve in 2003.
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Henry Is back in town:
 
Starts Tue 6 Dec, 9am
Ends Sun 11 Dec, 5pm*
On sale to public Mon 12 Dec, 9am
 
 
Henry Rollins is bringing his provocative and humorous spoken-word show to NZ in April as part of The Long March 2012 world tour; with performances in Hamilton, Wellington & Christchurch.

For three decades Rollins has been in the spotlight, as frontman for US punks Black Flag and the Rollins Band, and touring the world as a spoken-word artist, collecting new fans with his no-holds-barred opinions and observations.
 
 
Caught him the last time he was here. Very Funny but won't sh*t the f*ck up!!!! 3 hours or something so you get your money's worth.

 
ForteanTimes2011-12-06 11:29:07

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I saw Henry the time before last decided against sitting and listening for three hours again. Probably wasted my time watching TV instead.

Bullion wrote:
What are you guys fav local acts and songs in general?


Sticky Filth - Weep Woman Weep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ3VjU_pHFI

The Warners - Satellite Surfing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8I9PcWf-V0

Going further back....most of the stuff on AK79Product2011-12-06 12:16:14
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NZ stuff? I saw Proud Scum a few times so they'd be right up there. Spelling Mistakes too. I always liked the Screaming Mee Mees and The Spaces (more new wave than punk, both of these). Sticky Filth to me were just short-haired metal. I also liked the Wellington band who were around about 15 years ago, Gobsmakt.
I kind of regarded The Johnnys as a kiwi act because of Graham Hood and the fact that they were here a lot in the early 80s. On record they were more country than punk, but live they were a different story.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.

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Suburban Repitiles and The Scavengers....Buck A Head Concert at Albert Park in the late 70`s
 
Now that brings back memories
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Yeah, Sommerset and Brubeck were both good bands.
 
AK79 is essential, a great record full of great bands.
 
Flesh D-Vice!
 
Toy Love!!
 
It will be interesting to see how this book turns out. Anyone know this guy?
 
Lots of good local punk history here: http://mysterex.blogspot.com/search/label/punk
 

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Flesh D-Vice.  Only ever had them on tape.  Probably in the back of the garage somewhere now.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
12" of Hard Flesh - great record.

Jayrem put out a double CD of just about everything they ever recorded a few years ago.

Flesh D-Vice - Flaming Soul

EDIT: Also available on iTunes, so there you go.

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Always wanted to see The Johnnys live. I was just way too young and too much of a farmer's son.

Add T.A.B. - "Fred" to my list and their cover of "Country Roads". Missed out on Brubeck and Sommerset due to not living in NZ when they were around.
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ForteanTimes wrote:


Henry Is back in town:
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Starts Tue 6 Dec, 9amEnds Sun 11 Dec, 5pm*On sale to public Mon 12 Dec, 9am

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Henry Rollins is bringing his provocative and humorous spoken-word show to NZ in April as part of The Long March 2012 world tour; with performances in Hamilton, Wellington & Christchurch.For three decades Rollins has been in the spotlight, as frontman for US punks Black Flag and the Rollins Band, and touring the world as a spoken-word artist, collecting new fans with his no-holds-barred opinions and observations.

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Caught him the last time he was here. Very Funny but won't sh*t the f*ck up!!!! 3 hours or something so you get your money's worth.

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I'm still reeling from the time KiwiJambo and I sat through 3 hours of Biafra. Not sure I've recovered enough to do Rollins as well.

For Termy X, in particular:

The encore (is that punk?) last night was:

Not a day goes by
Hops and Barley
Message in a Bottle

The only blight was that Sprintime was not on the set list.

At the car park, after the gig, my Retro Ricki was recognised by some guys from Birmingham!
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No Springtime? Wtf!
 
Did they play Not Superstitious?
 
Hope you are enjoying your trip.
 

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I`ve been revisting The Fall lately
 
Mark E Smith... Punk... Poet...or just having a laff.   Enjoying the listening immensley
 
I still think "Theme from Sparta FC" could be adapted to a Nix chant
 
           Sparta Version                                                          Nix Version
We have to pay for everything (hey)                   We have to pay for everything (hey)
But some things are for free (hey)                        But some things are for free (hey)
We live on blood we are Sparta FC (hey)             We live on blood we are Phoenix FC (hey)
English Chelsea fan this is your last game            Aussie Glory fan this is your last game
We`re not Galatasary we`re Sparta FC               We`re not Gold Coast we`re Phoenix FC
 
Love the video clip on youtube as well, football crowds are great
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Repo Man on Comedy Central right now.

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terminator_x wrote:

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No Springtime? Wtf!

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Did they play Not Superstitious?

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Hope you are enjoying your trip.

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I see that cover and fondly recall Jailcell Recipes cover of Jealous Again.
Yup, Not Superstitious was played.Of the old classics (other than those already mentioned in the encore) I want the Moon, Peasant in Paradise & USSR/USA stick out.

Opened with My Worlds End which is a damn fine way to start a show, too.HarryHotspur2011-12-09 08:21:52
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The Johnny's were wild live, chaos ruled supreme at their gigs. Unfortunately they seemed to attract way too many bootboys. I remember one gig (Windsor Castle I think) where the atmosphere was downright scary.
I remember the Dead Kennedys at Mainstreet being the most violent concert I attended. Skinhead f**kknuckles out of their heads on cider or whatever and punching anyone who dared stand within 20 feet of their deranged carcasses. Hope they're all worm-food now, scum that they were.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.

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TheJam wrote:
The Johnny's were wild live, chaos ruled supreme at their gigs. Unfortunately they seemed to attract way too many bootboys. I remember one gig (Windsor Castle I think) where the atmosphere was downright scary.
I remember the Dead Kennedys at Mainstreet being the most violent concert I attended. Skinhead f**kknuckles out of their heads on cider or whatever and punching anyone who dared stand within 20 feet of their deranged carcasses. Hope they're all worm-food now, scum that they were.
 
 
Seen similar stuff with the UK Subs and other gigs. I friggin hate Rightwing skinheads.

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Oi! Some Christmas cheer for you punks:

PTTB
The Vandals
The Business



"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Saw the Voodoo Glow Skulls a few nights back - brilliant. Strangely, bloke behind me in queue grew up in Tawa (that's the straight edge suburb of Wellington...)
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Was he dressed in a Santa suit and splashing the cash around?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The Damned, Powerstation, Auck 25th Jan
 
Tickets purchased for an oldy but goody...and it does clash with a nix home game!!
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almost 13 years ago


Biafra and Guantanemo School of Medicine next month :-)

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almost 13 years ago

UK Kiwi wrote:
The Damned, Powerstation, Auck 25th Jan
 
Tickets purchased for an oldy but goody...and it does clash with a nix home game!!


Bugger missed the Damned. Still Jello no???

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almost 13 years ago


Jello ticket purchased today. I'll be the one in the Leatherface T-Shirt :-) 

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almost 13 years ago

Harry Hotspur - is it really you??

Buzzcocks on 27 Apr at Bodega probably gives me a bigger buzz, cock. Saturday night, lovely.

But will probably be at Jello Biafra too. Tuesday night, bluuurgh. Doesn't he know some of us hardcore middle-aged punks have soul-destroying jobs and mortgages to pay?

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almost 13 years ago

Indeed it is, Termy (It's taken me this long to work out how to access the 'new' website).

The Tuesday is a shocker...but I'm keen to see whether this collaboration is as good as the one with DOA (my first ever purchased CD at th etender, and impressionablre, age of 16) or NoMeansNo.

Middle aged or not, the last chance to shake my bones to California Uber Alles is just too good an opportunity to miss ...just hope my calves will have recuperated from Saturday avo footy.

 


 

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Jello - Good gig, jeez but we are all getting old?

I liked the support, very  Discharge, Conflict with some HC stuff thrown in

Nice mosh pit one of the best since I came to NZ. Very old skool.

I got punched in the mouth a couple of times by accident.

I'm feeling it today

Some young bearded bastard kneed me in the leg a couple of times on purpose too.

Mate I'll remember your face and pray you don't cross my path again.

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almost 13 years ago


Yep - a strong outing from the 40-50 years age group....and the 3 DKs classics clearly offered extra impetus to an already kicking night.

I really enjoyed it and just love Biafra's showmanship. My rolled ankle from a couple of weeks ago prevented me from entering the fray...but I can fold my arms and nod my head with the best of them :-)

 

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almost 13 years ago

Yeah, was a great gig. I'm not familiar with the Guantanamo stuff but it was very DK-ish and very good.

Pretty sure I heard at least 4 DK tracks too HH - California Über Alles, Chemical Warfare, Holiday in Cambodia and Kill the Poor. Every one a classic!

Good crowd there. Had half an eye out for a Leatherface t-shirt but didn't spot one.

Did anyone else think the guitarist on the right was the spitting image of Grant Hart from Husker Du?


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almost 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

Yeah, was a great gig. I'm not familiar with the Guantanamo stuff but it was very DK-ish and very good.

Pretty sure I heard at least 4 DK tracks too HH - California Über Alles, Chemical Warfare, Holiday in Cambodia and Kill the Poor. Every one a classic!

Good crowd there. Had half an eye out for a Leatherface t-shirt but didn't spot one.

Did anyone else think the guitarist on the right was the spitting image of Grant Hart from Husker Du?




That's the guy who plays with Nic Turner, ex hawkwind? I'll ask my brother he's a mate of NT. Can't say i noticed it myself.

Christ am I sore today.

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almost 13 years ago

Kill the Poor? They either came on for a second encore (I left after first) or my memory really is failing.

Shame you didn't see the Leatherface T-shirt...I was hoping to meet the elusive Termy X!  

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almost 13 years ago

Yeah 'Kill the Poor' was in the second encore. They almost caught me out too but it's never over until the lights are on and some dude with a broom tells you to fuck off!




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almost 13 years ago


My slippers and hot chocolate were waiting at home!

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over 12 years ago

Well picked sir. You know your NWOBHM!

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