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Sonny Bill to Rugby Union

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Sonny Bill to Rugby Union
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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/nrl/story/0,21985,24081888-14823,00.html
Interesting because he said after all that speculation earlier in the year that he would definitly see out out his 5 year deal. Already left and the commentaters on the game tonight said that it was $3million (3.91million NZD) for two years. Does that mean he would be eligible to play for France if he stayed for at two years or more? And what position would he be best in???
 
simon_hampton2008-07-26 20:59:01
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He will have to refine his tackling technique

shame we won�t be seeing this at the world cup

 

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Yea, if he doesn't then he might be spending quite a lot of time on the sidelines.

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Walking out on the Bulldogs like that? What an idiot. If this doesn't go to court it'll be because someone buys out his contract.
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He's gone about this the wrong way, moving to Toulons? Sure a great way to earn some moeny but he can't play for the AB's unitl he's playing in NZ. Sad really.

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Muppet.


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He's f**ked up his career anywhere whether it be League or Union.
 
1] The NRL have said if he plays one Union game in France he'll be banned from the NRL for the rest of his playing days.
 
2] The NRL are going to be contacting the IRB about his breach of contract and telling them if they allow him to play rugby then they will be seen to be allowing a breach of contract which could also affect Union players jumping to League.
 
3] $400k per year for the Doggies (5 years) or $1.5 per year for Rugby (2 years)? Assuming the Bulldogs don't sue SBW for his breach of contract themselves - And that could cost him up to 2 Million alone (if not more), then is SBW really better off? Tax etc in France.
 
All he has really done is shown that you cannot trust his word whether written or oral. He could walk out of Rugby in 12 months and I can't see the French letting him get away with that either.
Lonegunmen2008-07-29 20:06:10
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David Gallop was just on the radio and said if he plays in Europe!! he'll be de-regsitered. Bam!
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Disgusted at this rubbish,I dont think he has even managed to play a compete season of NRL.Thats what you get when that nutter Mundine gets involved.

A great shame as he had the potential to be  a really great player .He was still a work in progress,guess he hasnt heard they dont select overseas players for the Blacks.Such a waste.

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Lonegunmen wrote:

3] $400k per year for the Doggies (5 years) or $1.5 per year for Rugby 92 years)? Assuming the Bulldogs don't sue SBW for his breach of contract themselves - And that could cost him up to 2 Million alone (if not more), then is SBW really better off? Tax etc in France.



The French club probably agreed to pay the fine as well.
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Lonegunmen wrote:
$400k per year for the Doggies (5 years) or $1.5 per year for Rugby 92 years)? Assuming the Bulldogs don't sue SBW for his breach of contract themselves - And that could cost him up to 2 Million alone (if not more), then is SBW really better off? Tax etc in France.
 
 
 
92 years in rugby! at $1.5m a year that's $138m. He'll be a bit slow though
Royal2008-07-29 13:46:15
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Very interesting to see where he decides to turn after his contract in France is up. If he's rubbish at rugby then it will have to be Super League, but if he's any good maybe he'll return to New Zealand in time for the World Cup?
 
I have no respect for the bloke, he was such a talent at league, with the possiblity to become one of the greatest, but he's thrown it away for some more money. And breaking his contract by running away is hardly the best way to leave the game with dignity.
 
He can piss right off
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I see he's been summonsed by the Aus version of the  High Court to appear next week. He could end up arrested yet! Mind you, Anthony "The Boy" Mundain, is backing "His Bro"!!
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I wonder what position he'll play. Probably in the Jerry Collins mould at flanker. Though I don't actually care that much. I just hope he has a really unsuccessful stint in France. I think at the start of the year when he stated that he wanted to be an All Black that he'd achieved all he could with Rugby League. If that is true, then he can't achieve much. He's only 22 and thinks he has achieved all he could. The guy, with his money hungry agents, seems to think he is bigger than the game, public, media and everyone involved with RL. Just because he has had a some amazing moments and has got big hype does not mean he can do what he likes.
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Could that be Mundain's (delibrate miss spelling) influence? He thought he too was too good and above the NRL.
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He will be a centre, im not sure he will be that good. Not as much space on a rugby field to run one on one with a guy like in League and he will have to use his arms to tackle.
But alas if i am wrong would be more than happy to see him down here in 2011 in a black jersey

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Lonegunmen wrote:
I see he's been summonsed by the Aus version of the  High Court to appear next week. He could end up arrested yet! Mind you, Anthony "The Boy" Mundain, is backing "His Bro"!!
With that nutter in his corner anything is likely to happen.A shame he had the potential to be a great player.But then again great players dont walk out on team mates and they can actually string together a number of seasons playing their chosen game.Something he has not been able to do.

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So much talent, so little clue on how best to apply it. I am also wondering just what his Agent (The curse of any sport) is/was up to.
 
You're quite right Steve, He had to perform consistantly and for several seasons. Neither of which has he achieved.
 
Hang on, I'll just get my Samoan passport ready so I can play in France. This really is turning into a serious farce!!
Lonegunmen2008-07-30 20:51:46
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Sonny Bill Williams has officially signed a contract with French rugby.

Ten days after fleeing the NRL, Williams has signed a one-year deal with Toulon.

The Bulldogs and the NRL have begun legal proceedings against Williams in the New South Wales Supreme Court. They are trying to stop him from playing any other code and for any team other than the Bulldogs.

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THE New South Wales supreme court has granted the NRL and the Bulldogs an injunction to prevent Sonny Bill Williams from playing for French rugby club Toulon tonight.

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He played last night and got yellow carded for a shoulder charge. Hardly surprising!
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So he is now in contempt of an Australian court. Will the French take any notice of it?
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SONNY Bill Williams has been served documents detailing an injunction that bans him from playing another rugby union match in France.

The runaway rugby league star evaded process servers in the lead-up to his debut with the Toulon club on Friday night but was confronted after the game.

NRL lawyer Tony O'Reilly said he had received initial information that Williams was intercepted but refused the documents when they were extended to him.

O'Reilly said the NSW Supreme Court would be informed of the circumstances and he expects the court to accept that Williams was properly served.

"We would expect him to abide by it once he's properly served and he was, we believe, after the game,'' O'Reilly said.

"He didn't accept the documents that were tried to be handed to him so we may have to approach the court to confirm that they're happy with it.

"Otherwise, if someone didn't want to be served, you'd never be able to serve them.''

O'Reilly said the NRL will receive a full report on Monday of Williams being served.

The 23-year-old left Australia without warning two weeks ago, just one year into his five-year deal with the Bulldogs to accept a more lucrative deal with Toulon.

O'Reilly assumed Williams and the club knew the injunction had been granted and attempts would be made to serve Williams the court documents.

Williams did not travel on the team bus, he did not warm up on the field with the team and when he eventually did step on to the playing field he did so from the dressing room, Mr O'Reilly noted.

"The way they conducted themselves was consistent with him and the club having knowledge of the order,'' O'Reilly said.

"If he plays again then we will obviously be informing the court and then it's a matter for the court to decide what it does in those circumstances.''

AAP

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nice shoulder charge 
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From what I saw on the news, he looks the goods. Apart from his tackling technique. Toulon are saying that he is eligible for them and will not have to go to court. Quite an interesting story shaping up.
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A compensation deal is set to end the Sonny Bill Williams stand-off saga between his former Canterbury rugby league club in Sydney and his new French rugby union club, Toulon.

Williams, who fled to France, despite having four years to run on his NRL contract with Canterbury, had been due to play in a Toulon trial this morning (NZ time) but did not take the field.

"A financial settlement is going to be found at the beginning of next week," Toulon president
Mourad Boudjellal told news agency AFP this morning while at the Toulon versus Toulouse match at the Mayol stadium.

Williams did not play so as not to "inflame the situation," Boudjellal added in reference to a New South Wales Supreme Court ruling which forbade Williams to play for his club.

In Sydney yesterday, Williams' former Canterbury Bulldogs teammate Hazem El Masri has admitted he felt the club may have been cursed in recent times.

With Williams's shock departure the latest in a string of dramas at the Bulldogs as they edge closer to the wooden spoon, El Masri conceded the club was at its lowest point in his 13-year career.

"The whole year's been tough," El Masri said. "You go through ups and downs, but it probably doesn't get any lower than this.

"It's amazing what things keep popping up. This is just another one. I think someone has just cursed the club over the last five years. I don't think it could get any worse.

"But every club goes through some tough times. You rebuild."

But El Masri refused to be critical of Williams for walking out on the club just one year into a five-year contract, saying: "The bottom line is it's up to him. He said he had his reasons. That's the way things go. He went about it his way � although I would have never done it that way."

El Masri made the comments on a day in which lawyers representing the Bulldogs and the NRL foreshadowed in court that they would begin contempt proceedings against Williams that could result in him facing jail or having his assets seized.

Toulon officials yesterday rejected the claims made in court that legal papers had been served on Williams after his debut last week in a continuation of the hardline stance adapted by the club's owner Mourad Boudjellal.

"That's absolute rubbish," a Toulon source told AAP.

"They haven't handed any papers to him, definitely not. I don't know where they stand legally, but they [the NRL] seem to be making a lot of noise because they can't do much more than that."

Boudjellal went further by suggesting that Williams's shock walk-out and code switch was related to wider problems at the Bulldogs, a club he didn't even know existed six months ago.

"When something like this happens, it's not just the the fault of the club or just the fault of the player - it's normally a bit of both. It's more complicated than that," he said on the club's website.

"If I was the president of the Bulldogs [George Peponis], the first question I would ask myself is why has a player left the club in these conditions?

"If Sonny Bill left us after being disgusted at what's been going on, why? If he's disgusted about what's been going on, perhaps other players are as well.

"Perhaps he [Peponis] should try and sort out his problems.

"Obviously, the easiest thing for everyone to say is that it's [about] money but that means you can avoid asking yourself the hard questions. But it doesn't mean it's as easy as that. There's a lot more to it than money."

Asked about the possibility of Williams being arrested, Boudjellal said: "Obviously the French don't have the same culture as Australia because, I'd suggest, getting arrested for that � there are a lot of far more shocking things in the world which go on that you would get arrested for before that".

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I heard he was going to manchester utd or chelski with all the other mercenary foreign players!
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Balls to the NRL.
 
I didn't see them complaining when Matthew Ridge gave up being an All Black to join them back in 89.
 
Or 90 or whenever.
 
Stupid bloody game anyway.
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I'm no lawyer so don't know the legal ins and outs of all this but how can the Bulldogs stop him playing a completely different sport.
Would they have kicked up as much of a stink if he had quit league to play cricket or to work at his local McDonalds.
I understand he was under contract to play for the Bulldogs so I can see how he couldn't just up and go to another NRL club but in effect, he has retired from League to persue other interests.
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Jamie Lyon anybody?

And yes - I know it was (slightly) different... in that he told the club the day he walked, thus giving them an opportunity to reach an 'agreement' etc...


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