The name's Bond, James Bond.

Listen here Fudgeface
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LeighboNZ wrote:

I feel we need a James Bond thread...

SPECTRE! I didn't know that a simple title could get me so excited.

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patrick478 wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

I feel we need a James Bond thread...

SPECTRE! I didn't know that a simple title could get me so excited.

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There will only ever be one DB10

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I will be in the minority here but I think Daniel Craig is much more like the Bond in the Fleming books. He is to me, the best Bond. I always thought Connery was good but not as good as they think. Craig can go from dry, witty to ruthless killer in a flash.

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[quote=Lonegunmen]

I will be in the minority here but I think Daniel Craig is much more like the Bond in the Fleming books. He is to me, the best Bond. I always thought Connory was good but not as good as they think. Craig can go from dry, witty to ruthless killer in a flash.

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Leggy wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

I will be in the minority here but I think Daniel Craig is much more like the Bond in the Fleming books. He is to me, the best Bond. I always thought Connory was good but not as good as they think. Craig can go from dry, witty to ruthless killer in a flash.

I think you meant Connery. I think he was the best.

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If they ditched humans and got a tiny crustacean to play James Bond what would the film be called?

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Roger Moore was the best Bond.

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1. Craig/Connery (this movie will be the tie breaker) 2. Moore 3. Brosnan 4. Lazenby 5. Dalton (Sellers doesn't count)
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LeighboNZ wrote:
1. Craig/Connery (this movie will be the tie breaker) 2. Moore 3. Brosnan 4. Lazenby 5. Dalton (Sellers doesn't count)

My missus is always right and she reckons Sean was the best,     :)

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Due to the legacy he really created then yes, Daniel Craig has done something Brosnan and Dalton couldn't do which was to give the franchise credibility and style again.
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In the original Casino Royale wasn't it David Niven as James Bond?

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Leggy wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:
1. Craig/Connery (this movie will be the tie breaker) 2. Moore 3. Brosnan 4. Lazenby 5. Dalton (Sellers doesn't count)

My missus is always right and she reckons Sean was the best,     :)

Whipped.

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Leggy wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:
1. Craig/Connery (this movie will be the tie breaker) 2. Moore 3. Brosnan 4. Lazenby 5. Dalton (Sellers doesn't count)

My missus is always right and she reckons Sean was the best,     :)

She cannot always be right - she is married to you so surely that is one thing she got wrong.

#bantz

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Erm yup, Niven played Bond. I always get their names the wrong way around so I will shut up and sit in my corner.
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No, I think Sellers may have played a role or similar (Not Pink Panther) in another film so I think you are/were on to something.

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Both Niven and Sellers were in the Pink Panther. Niven played the jewel thief.

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Frankie Mac wrote:

Leggy wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:
1. Craig/Connery (this movie will be the tie breaker) 2. Moore 3. Brosnan 4. Lazenby 5. Dalton (Sellers doesn't count)

My missus is always right and she reckons Sean was the best,     :)

She cannot always be right - she is married to you so surely that is one thing she got wrong.

#bantz

Well FM, if you want to get personal.

She occasionally reads this forum and  has commented about your foul mouth a few times. Low life, I think she said.  :)

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The only Bond film I have seen is Skyfall.
*waits for attack*

Listen here Fudgeface
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I <3 Nix wrote:

The only Bond film I have seen is Skyfall.
*waits for attack*

Did you enjoy it?

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I recommend the openning sequence for new version Casino Royale with Daniel Craig there Tracey. Some fantastic stunt work and also a world champion free runner or whatever it is called when they bounce off buildings etc. Action packed.

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Start with the classic Bonds if you're new I reckon. Goldfinger, The Spy Who Loved Me & Dr. No
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Favourites? I always loved You Only Live Twice

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I loved "For your eyes only" and the ski chase scene in that was pretty good too.

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Most disliked Bond movie?

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Wow. Lots of love here for Moore. Other than Live and Let Die, View to a Kill, and the Man with the Golden Gun I could not tell you the plot lines of the others. I know Moonraker involved space.... Couldn't tell you about the plot lines of FYEO , OP and TSWLM 

Moore would be 2nd to last on my list of Bonds. Lazenby may have had the ability to become a good Bond but based on one showing, we wont know. Moore to me was more cartoon/pantomimeish. If you look at Connery as the best (for the sake of this particular argument right here) Moore was almost comedy at times and lacked the grit. Brosnan kept some of Moores style but at times had a bit more grit than Moore.

I have Connery and Craig at the top 2 and Brosnan right in behind 3rd. Brosnan would have been better served if there were better scripts. Die Another Day was a pile of shark and other that GoldenEye, he had rubbish to work with (Tomorrow Never Dies? Really?) Then Dalton, Moore and Lazenby. Craig is closer to Dalton on his take of Bond with a pinch more sarcasm.

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Best is probably From Russia With Love and worst.... I'd pick a Moore one of which there are a couple.

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Jeff Vader wrote:

Best is probably From Russia With Love and worst.... I'd pick a Moore one of which there are a couple.

Some of the Moore movies were more Austin Powers than Austin Powers. No such thing as a bad Bond movie, just that some are less equal than others.

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Wow. Lots of love here for Moore. Other than Live and Let Die, View to a Kill, and the Man with the Golden Gun I could not tell you the plot lines of the others. I know Moonraker involved space.... Couldn't tell you about the plot lines of FYEO , OP and TSWLM 

Moore would be 2nd to last on my list of Bonds. Lazenby may have had the ability to become a good Bond but based on one showing, we wont know. Moore to me was more cartoon/pantomimeish. If you look at Connery as the best (for the sake of this particular argument right here) Moore was almost comedy at times and lacked the grit. Brosnan kept some of Moores style but at times had a bit more grit than Moore.

I have Connery and Craig at the top 2 and Brosnan right in behind 3rd. Brosnan would have been better served if there were better scripts. Die Another Day was a pile of shark and other that GoldenEye, he had rubbish to work with (Tomorrow Never Dies? Really?) Then Dalton, Moore and Lazenby. Craig is closer to Dalton on his take of Bond with a pinch more sarcasm.

I quite liked Lazenby. He was told by his agent after his one outing to leave the franchise so as not to get typecast - he's since been typecast as the worst Bond as it is generally thought he wasn't wanted when in fact he turned down the next movie.

Brosnan suffered from poor writing as you say and at a time when Hollywood was obsessed with SFX. Casino Royale was such a brilliant franchise 're-set' it will be interesting to see what happens when Craig has done his dash - he's done a great job of being able to maintain a brilliant movie career outside of Bond while still being Bond.

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Wow. Lots of love here for Moore. Other than Live and Let Die, View to a Kill, and the Man with the Golden Gun I could not tell you the plot lines of the others. I know Moonraker involved space.... Couldn't tell you about the plot lines of FYEO , OP and TSWLM 

Moore would be 2nd to last on my list of Bonds. Lazenby may have had the ability to become a good Bond but based on one showing, we wont know. Moore to me was more cartoon/pantomimeish. If you look at Connery as the best (for the sake of this particular argument right here) Moore was almost comedy at times and lacked the grit. Brosnan kept some of Moores style but at times had a bit more grit than Moore.

I have Connery and Craig at the top 2 and Brosnan right in behind 3rd. Brosnan would have been better served if there were better scripts. Die Another Day was a pile of shark and other that GoldenEye, he had rubbish to work with (Tomorrow Never Dies? Really?) Then Dalton, Moore and Lazenby. Craig is closer to Dalton on his take of Bond with a pinch more sarcasm.

I quite liked Lazenby. He was told by his agent after his one outing to leave the franchise so as not to get typecast - he's since been typecast as the worst Bond as it is generally thought he wasn't wanted when in fact he turned down the next movie.

Brosnan suffered from poor writing as you say and at a time when Hollywood was obsessed with SFX. Casino Royale was such a brilliant franchise 're-set' it will be interesting to see what happens when Craig has done his dash - he's done a great job of being able to maintain a brilliant movie career outside of Bond while still being Bond.

Yeah I had no real issue with Lazenby myself. I think the one image that is ingrained in my head is that twit-like grin he had and 'this never happened to the other fellow' line *headshake*. I think Connery would have done better with OHMSS but not sure how he would have gone with the Tracy storyline because he was a womaniser and that did not fit well with Connerys Bond. If he was given a chance with Diamonds Are Forever (Connery just mailed that performance in) instead or perhaps MWTGG, he may have done well. I just don't think that script was right for him. 

I guess when 4 of the 6 had a more serious edge to them, you then have Moore and Lazenby that kinda standout as being different.

I struggled through Quantum of Solace cause I got lost in figuring out the plot lines but agree that Craig is doing a very good job thus far. Plus he is actually getting decent scripts. I think Broccoli and Wilson really lost their way there at times during the Brosnan era with some outlandish scripts.

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Jeff Vader wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Wow. Lots of love here for Moore. Other than Live and Let Die, View to a Kill, and the Man with the Golden Gun I could not tell you the plot lines of the others. I know Moonraker involved space.... Couldn't tell you about the plot lines of FYEO , OP and TSWLM 

Moore would be 2nd to last on my list of Bonds. Lazenby may have had the ability to become a good Bond but based on one showing, we wont know. Moore to me was more cartoon/pantomimeish. If you look at Connery as the best (for the sake of this particular argument right here) Moore was almost comedy at times and lacked the grit. Brosnan kept some of Moores style but at times had a bit more grit than Moore.

I have Connery and Craig at the top 2 and Brosnan right in behind 3rd. Brosnan would have been better served if there were better scripts. Die Another Day was a pile of shark and other that GoldenEye, he had rubbish to work with (Tomorrow Never Dies? Really?) Then Dalton, Moore and Lazenby. Craig is closer to Dalton on his take of Bond with a pinch more sarcasm.

I quite liked Lazenby. He was told by his agent after his one outing to leave the franchise so as not to get typecast - he's since been typecast as the worst Bond as it is generally thought he wasn't wanted when in fact he turned down the next movie.

Brosnan suffered from poor writing as you say and at a time when Hollywood was obsessed with SFX. Casino Royale was such a brilliant franchise 're-set' it will be interesting to see what happens when Craig has done his dash - he's done a great job of being able to maintain a brilliant movie career outside of Bond while still being Bond.

Yeah I had no real issue with Lazenby myself. I think the one image that is ingrained in my head is that twit-like grin he had and 'this never happened to the other fellow' line *headshake*. I think Connery would have done better with OHMSS but not sure how he would have gone with the Tracy storyline because he was a womaniser and that did not fit well with Connerys Bond. If he was given a chance with Diamonds Are Forever (Connery just mailed that performance in) instead or perhaps MWTGG, he may have done well. I just don't think that script was right for him. 

I guess when 4 of the 6 had a more serious edge to them, you then have Moore and Lazenby that kinda standout as being different.

I struggled through Quantum of Solace cause I got lost in figuring out the plot lines but agree that Craig is doing a very good job thus far. Plus he is actually getting decent scripts. I think Broccoli and Wilson really lost their way there at times during the Brosnan era with some outlandish scripts.

Quantum of Solace needed to happen to tie a few things up. CR got people back into a franchise that struggled for credibility and then QOS set things up for Skyfall which is utterly brilliant.

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Oh I agree. I think Mendes did a fantastic job with  Skyfall. I know it was raved about how Javier Bardem would be a villan no one would forget but I didn't feel it. I think Waltz will do a great/better job. Very very good actor.

Mendes could potentially name his own price to stay in the role and I don't think they would turn him down.

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Javier Bardem was very good, an equal to many of the best villians but Waltz has the opportunity to be a Bond great on the same level as Goldfinger, Jaws or Dr. No.

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i actually thought Dr No was the worst, possibly because it was cheaply done. 

For the absolutely worst special effects, From Russia With Love,  it had to be the boat chase when Robert Shaw was being chased by Bond. A speeded up peice of film, it just looked bad.

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You mean From Russia With Love

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Lonegunmen wrote:

i actually thought Dr No was the worst, possibly because it was cheaply done. 

For the absolutely worst special effects, On Her Magestys Secret Service,  it had to be the boat chase when Robert Shaw was being chased by Bond. A speeded up peice of film, it just looked bad.

I liked Dr. No, but then some people seem to like Dalton who I think was the worst Bond.

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Jeff Vader wrote:

You mean From Russia With Love

yes, thanks. You know what I mean about that boat chase though?

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Absolutely LG

Dalton was a thespian so was more character than action and Bond films are not like that in the main. He was a fill in for Brosnan who got his contract clause drag back into Remington Steele. I had liked Dalton but thought Licence To Kill was not a strong script.

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Dalton was also in Flash Gordon.

The name's Bond, James Bond.

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