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Wallabies v All Blacks - Sydney

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Buffon II wrote:
Anyone else think Lauaki was beyond hopeless?
our manu vativai,   poor bastard, bet he wished anz stadium could swallow him up.

having said that,  brad thorn being sent to the bin after only 3 minutes, put us way on the back foot, what a farking joke,great fight back by the blacks, shame we fell apart  just after we scored in the second half.

will weepu get the call up now ellis and cowan look crocked


giddyup2008-07-27 08:47:39
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Aussies certainly played better, and should have won. But not by so much, the ref missed a lot of offside play from them and a certain penalty try.

Luaki was sh*t, we now have a serious problem at half back, Ellis will be gone with a rib injury and I can't see the other guy coming back soon wiht knee troubles, lets hope Weepu is available.
theprof2008-07-27 10:38:30

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we were sh*te but if the penalty try had of been given we would have won the game, i think its that simple. momentum changed just there! to the person that said kahui was out of his depth and nonu shouldnt have been taken off.... what were you watching? nonu got shown up for what he is last night, not a real international rugby player. Kahui was quality, DC amazing, thought the props were quite good.
Lauaki was worse than horrendous, i don't think ive ver seen anyone play that bad.
But we didn't deserve to win and didn't so fairs fair i guess

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bopman wrote:
we were sh*te but if the penalty try had of been given we would have won the game, i think its that simple. momentum changed just there!


Yeah, and if we hadn't illegaly brought Ellis back on then we wouldn't of been in the position to score that try. So it swings both ways you see.

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You can't say the pen try that was not awarded was going to change your momentum. The handling errors and missed tackles were always going to screw you over, W/W.O the pen try and as Buffy says it did swing both ways.

Ellis is crap.. something like 9 handling errors? shocking. Sivi played his only decent performance in the next 5 years.
 
Abs were piss poor, and as I don't support the ABS I am well chuffed with the Aussies. You've lost your two trophies.
 
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no scotishboy i disagree, we were playing sh*t but had got on top. the penalty try wasn't given and the momentum swung back towards aussie

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Yeah but the ref didn't drop the ball 30 times or miss 30 tackles did he? I think it's just another convienient excuse for AB fans yet again.

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Buffon II wrote:
Yeah but the ref didn't drop the ball 30 times or miss 30 tackles did he? I think it's just another convienient excuse for AB fans yet again.
No i think most fans will accept we got well and truly beaten,some might say it was very crusaders like in the way they went about their game.
It's now up to the A.B's to regroup and deliver a completely different performance as to the one they gave last night.we got let down in almost every area of the game and that needs to change by next Saturday night.


giddyup2008-07-27 12:46:29
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I think they were all pretty pathetic except for Carter, Mcdonald and Braid. Nonu and Civi were particularly awful, Dropped the ball cold ridiculous amount of times.

Ellis had no protection at the back of the ruck and so was getting smashed and mauled all night, it's no wonder his handling errors are so high. I would blame the forwards for not doing there job for that.Gangsta!2008-07-27 13:00:46
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I'm glad we lost.I hope we lose more often. Let's go into the next WC as outsiders, as underdogs, as the hunter rather than the hunted. Let's stop being the best when it counts the least.
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I can't understand how any person could say it would be a penalty try!!! For starters the player (Sivivatu) would have had to get to the ball first. Now, if he could run 20 metres in 1.2 seconds I'd have said award a try, but he can't so end of story. Lote was about 7 metres ahead in the race for the ball over the line. At best a penalty and 3 points.
Sick of hearing rugby heads (and others) go on about something that was impossible!
 
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I'm not sure how Kahui was amazing as I didn't see him do a lot of attacking, I understand it was quite hard to get him the ball at centre because Ellis' weak passes meant the Aussie defence were up fast enough to stop this, but he didn't really make any breaks all game. I thought Sivi had a good game got into the action a lot didn't just sit on his wing and made a few breaks.
Interesting they will bring in Moa if both halfbacks are out, I personally would have brought in Nutbrown have been very impressed by him since joining BOP and he had a solid Super 14 campaign with the Chiefs as well.
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Im not a rugby fan, didn't watch the game,a nd this question is probably answered already either in this topic or elsewhere but....
 
How can a nation profess to be fanatic about a sport when the national team coach loses the pinnacle of many years preparation, retains his job and then in two of his first real games back in charge loses to the two most intense rivals?
 
imagine Scolari or some other Brazillian footbal coach failing at the world Cup and keeping his job (wouldn't happen) and THEN losing to Italy and being thrashed by Argentina! he'd be lynched!
 
I asked a friend who is a rugby fan what was up and she said somehting about loyalty and fairweather fans- i think either: Henry ahs some dirt on his bosses or NZ fans are more fickle and impassionate about Rugby than the marketing machine makes out.
 
I really don't get it...and to be honest, don't really care, just trying to contextualise it in terms of World Football
 

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Salmon07 wrote:
Im not a rugby fan, didn't watch the game,a nd this question is probably answered already either in this topic or elsewhere but....
 
How can a nation profess to be fanatic about a sport when the national team coach loses the pinnacle of many years preparation, retains his job and then in two of his first real games back in charge loses to the two most intense rivals?
 
imagine Scolari or some other Brazillian footbal coach failing at the world Cup and keeping his job (wouldn't happen) and THEN losing to Italy and being thrashed by Argentina! he'd be lynched!
 
I asked a friend who is a rugby fan what was up and she said somehting about loyalty and fairweather fans- i think either: Henry ahs some dirt on his bosses or NZ fans are more fickle and impassionate about Rugby than the marketing machine makes out.
 
I really don't get it...and to be honest, don't really care, just trying to contextualise it in terms of World Football
 
 
Salmon07 may be a context you could relate it to is when, way back, Alex Ferguson took over at Manure, they had a sh*t run and lots of people involved with them wanted him sacked.  He wasn't and now-a-days some consider him a success.
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Good point- if the AB's had that kind of foresight then good on them
Sir Alex is a legendary manager and a great pantomime character with his bulbuous wine nose- but will Henry be around in ten years or so- i doubt it
 
 

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Yeah see that one is always used but Fergie was 90 minutes away from the sack. He got a lucky break and the rest is history.

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Gangsta! wrote:
Ellis is easily the best half back, way better than the small sh*t.
 
Not, Ellis was terrible, and I hope this was his last appearance ever, Weepu can and wll be a huge difference this week. I thought Nonu was well wacthed and therefore his impact was negated, but Kahui didn't impress me at all. Given that the defence was watching Nonu, Kahui should have had ample space to attack - he didn't. Smith should have been starting and Kahui as a sub. Luaki hopefully will not be back he was terrible, so much for impact.
 
As for the penalty try, I would have been happy with any call - penalty for blocking a player even, that would have changed the face of the game. Had we scored even 3 points from that things may have been different.
 
Still think we deserverd to lose though.

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theprof wrote:
Gangsta! wrote:
Ellis is easily the best half back, way better than the small sh*t.
 
Not, Ellis was terrible, and I hope this was his last appearance ever, Weepu can and wll be a huge difference this week. I thought Nonu was well wacthed and therefore his impact was negated, but Kahui didn't impress me at all. Given that the defence was watching Nonu, Kahui should have had ample space to attack - he didn't. Smith should have been starting and Kahui as a sub. Luaki hopefully will not be back he was terrible, so much for impact.
 
As for the penalty try, I would have been happy with any call - penalty for blocking a player even, that would have changed the face of the game. Had we scored even 3 points from that things may have been different.
 
Still think we deserverd to lose though.
 
Totally agree with you. I think with all the talk going on about a kicking 2nd five backing up Carter, couldn't we just have a kicking halfback, I don't remember Eliis doing it a lot but if Weepu starts he is definately capable of taking some of the kicking away from Caarter and doing so at the ruck base.
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I seemd to recall one kick from the base of the ruck from Ellis, it wasn't great. Weepu has a lot to prove and he's hungry, he's a whole lot more dynamic than Ellis or Cowan will ever be. I think you'll see Nonu and smith back together in the midfield this week, Weepu at half back. Mealamu starting at hooker and hopefully Ritchie back in the fold to save our arses with braid on the bench.

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Leon MacDonald, Mils Muliana, Conrad Smith, Ma'a Nonu, Sitiveni Sivivatu, Daniel Carter, Jimmy Cowan/Andy Ellis/Piri Weepu; Rodney So'oialo, Richie McCaw (c), Jerome Kaino (c), Ali Williams, Brad Thorn, Greg Somerville, Andrew Hore/Keven Mealamu , Tony Woodcock.

Reserves: Hore/Mealamu, John Afoa, Anthony Boric, Adam Thomson/Daniel Braid, Jimmy Cowan,  Stephen Donald, Richard Kahui.

How the team should have read last week!

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