Whats with the hate...
Whats with the hate...
Let me say.. the game yesterday was FANTASTIC and i will be going
to every home match the phoenix have this year 
However whats with all the hate vs <insert every other sport here>
Its all over these forums.. and there was a guy on the news the other nite crapping on bout how boring rugby is...
Its not helpful for the phoenix's cause..
You have to remember that the vast majority of New Zealander's love Rugby .. and Rugby league has a far larger Fanbase than football/soccer in New Zealand (Especially given the fact the warriors are on game at the moment)
Just seems that bashing rugby is the last thing that should be done... we want the New Zealand public to embrace the phoenix.. not alienate them by going on bout how crap our national game is.
You are allowed to love both codes of rugby and football/soccer at the same time
Moxstar2007-08-27 15:14:24
However whats with all the hate vs <insert every other sport here>
Its all over these forums.. and there was a guy on the news the other nite crapping on bout how boring rugby is...
Its not helpful for the phoenix's cause..
You have to remember that the vast majority of New Zealander's love Rugby .. and Rugby league has a far larger Fanbase than football/soccer in New Zealand (Especially given the fact the warriors are on game at the moment)
Just seems that bashing rugby is the last thing that should be done... we want the New Zealand public to embrace the phoenix.. not alienate them by going on bout how crap our national game is.
You are allowed to love both codes of rugby and football/soccer at the same time
Moxstar2007-08-27 15:14:24
Well said, we can pick that up and run with it ...
Because Rugby foprums aren't full of people calling this game
Poofball ?
People are allowed to love both games, but by the same token after the crap that football people in this country have taken for years they also have every right to have a go a the Oval ball codes. I don't advocate a 'well they started it' attitude but that's a bit rich.
I'd also suggest that the fanbases for league and football are not that different in size. I see a lot more football strips day to day on the streets of New Zealand than I see league strips.
People are allowed to love both games, but by the same token after the crap that football people in this country have taken for years they also have every right to have a go a the Oval ball codes. I don't advocate a 'well they started it' attitude but that's a bit rich.
I'd also suggest that the fanbases for league and football are not that different in size. I see a lot more football strips day to day on the streets of New Zealand than I see league strips.
I would like to know where you get the stats that league has a
larger fan base in NZ than football. I think the hate has been
dished upon football fans for many years from the Rugby majority in
NZ. We still deal with comments like"that poofter sport". etc. If
anyone is to blame its the rugby fans for putting us down for so
long. now that we have something to be proud about, there noses are
just getting a little out of joint.
I see you have made two posts. Perhaps read these forums and
get a handle on the passion that the people here have for their
sport before you feel fit to comment. We love football,
that's how it is.
so ??
Your acting like every single rugby fan is a jerk..
And when people on this forum and on the news say that rugby is boring it makes them look like a jerk aswell..
Just seems anti productive to try and alienate the rugby public in new zealand when it is the vast majority of new zealand.
Moxstar2007-08-27 15:21:34
Your acting like every single rugby fan is a jerk..
And when people on this forum and on the news say that rugby is boring it makes them look like a jerk aswell..
Just seems anti productive to try and alienate the rugby public in new zealand when it is the vast majority of new zealand.
Moxstar2007-08-27 15:21:34
i think the point is that this site isn't for the "rugby public"
its for yellow fever and for most of us Football always has and
always will come first.
what's with all these people who've just signed up on this site
today mr and mrs 1 or 2 posts could you not get through to
brendan telfer on radio sport ?? nothing but moaning and
groaning telling us how we should be doing things because mr and
mrs johnny come lately don't like it
i'm the only football fan at my work everyone else is a ardent rugby fan and i get nothing but sh!t from them for supporting football so now i'm throwing it back get over it
i'm the only football fan at my work everyone else is a ardent rugby fan and i get nothing but sh!t from them for supporting football so now i'm throwing it back get over it
Sorry Moxstar,
They are not the vast majority, just have a louder
voice.
Time for a little celebration and gloating.
so ??
Your acting like every single rugby fan is a jerk..
And when people on this forum and on the news say that rugby is boring it makes them look like a jerk aswell..
Just seems anti productive to try and alienate the rugby public in new zealand when it is the vast majority of new zealand.
Your acting like every single rugby fan is a jerk..
And when people on this forum and on the news say that rugby is boring it makes them look like a jerk aswell..
Just seems anti productive to try and alienate the rugby public in new zealand when it is the vast majority of new zealand.
Many people would claim it is only the media in this country that have created that. As someone else here said though, it's a few people, they are entitled to that view just as much as if a Football person goes on a Rugby forum has to endure the archaic Poofball rubbish.
It's not necessarily the majority view. There were certainly plenty of Fever shirts watching the Warriors at the BB pre-game on Sunday.
I see you have made two posts. Perhaps read these forums and
get a handle on the passion that the people here have for their
sport before you feel fit to comment. We love football,
that's how it is.
I have actually been reading these forums since they were put up.. however only just registered..
Its nice being able to love both :P
As a football player in New Zealand you could never love both, too
many Redneck comments from Rugby Players.
so ??
Your acting like every single rugby fan is a jerk..
And when people on this forum and on the news say that rugby is boring it makes them look like a jerk aswell..
Just seems anti productive to try and alienate the rugby public in new zealand when it is the vast majority of new zealand.
Your acting like every single rugby fan is a jerk..
And when people on this forum and on the news say that rugby is boring it makes them look like a jerk aswell..
Just seems anti productive to try and alienate the rugby public in new zealand when it is the vast majority of new zealand.
Many people would claim it is only the media in this country that have created that. As someone else here said though, it's a few people, they are entitled to that view just as much as if a Football person goes on a Rugby forum has to endure the archaic Poofball rubbish.
It's not necessarily the majority view. There were certainly plenty of Fever shirts watching the Warriors at the BB pre-game on Sunday.
Hey i agree people are entitled to the view that "rugby is boring" .. which means i should be entitled to my opinion that "we" (Phoenix Supporters) should try and expand the fanbase and aim for 30,000+ at the games.. which involves getting lots of rugby supporters along
Inclusion usually works better than exclusion
Rugby league has a far larger Fanbase than football/soccer in New
Zealand
That is a blatent lie sir
Dave572007-08-27 15:52:41
rugby and rugby league are only major sports in about 5 countries
in the rest of the world they are the minority
Rugby league has a far larger Fanbase than football/soccer in New
Zealand
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That is a blatent lie sir
Thats true. More people play football in kids but there are more people who watch league than soccer.
Rugby Union is as exciting as Chess. Its sh*t.
Rugby League however, is good, to watch the warriors
Footy is first by a mile!
Rugby League however, is good, to watch the warriors
Footy is first by a mile!
Moxster, the key to get Rugby fans along to the matches is to get
them to like football, not for us to pander to them and tell them
how much we like Rugby (we don't), that it isn't boring (it is) and
pretend that we enjoy it equally as much as football (we
don't). They have to like our game, not us theirs.
Perhaps they should be the one's doing the reaching out seeing how
rubbish their crowds are
Moxster, the key to get Rugby fans along to the matches is to get
them to like football, not for us to pander to them and tell them
how much we like Rugby (we don't), that it isn't boring (it is) and
pretend that we enjoy it equally as much as football (we
don't). They have to like our game, not us theirs.
Perhaps they should be the one's doing the reaching out seeing how
rubbish their crowds are
I second that. Never been to a rugby game. Can`t see that changing anytime soon.
We had five Fulton Hogan (Rugby/ league) boys infront of me
yesterday..... Within five minutes they had the fever.....They
couldnt believe the crowd .. and from one there mouth came....This
is the best game Ive been too.........
Have the same issue here in Australia. In Victoria we can't stand
Rugby League, that's what New South Welshman and Queenslanders
enjoy, but we love AFL and Football down here (look i know how you
guys feel about AFL please don't hurl the abuse :) ) but yeah,
we get a heap of people to Victory games n we love it. We'll watch
any sport over here in Victoria (besides Rugby League,
International Union Games we'll watch). But I don't see the point
in hatred of other sports.melbournite2007-08-27 19:29:48
yeah i agree they were with me and all they did was talk about it
at work, my job is done i'm open to convert anyone alse who doubts
football or the phoenix!!!
Good on ya mate, Keep up the support!!!
you can love rugby too but ffs this is a football forum...how many rugby forums talk about football??? why is that so weird??? me no understand
I must admit I am a huge Rugby Union fan maybe even classed as a
fanatic....but I honestly can say there is room for both games in
NZ......
they are completly different games & shouldn't be involved
in a grudge match against each other which is primarly media
based.
Spot on mate lets just enjoy the beautiful game or games for that
matter.
I must admit I am a huge Rugby Union fan maybe even classed as a
fanatic....but I honestly can say there is room for both games in
NZ......
they are completly different games & shouldn't be involved
in a grudge match against each other which is primarly media
based.
yes fine but i reiterate: how many rugby forums talk about football? and why should they?
moxstar grow some balls. a football website means there will be
diehard football fans. i remember there was another thread where
some other guy complained about the term "thugbyheads" .. he got
shot down also.
this forum is one of the few places in NZ to not have to be saturated with rugby and that is good. I don't have a problem with the game, it's fine, but just not here is all
if you wanna talk about the rugby, either a) go on a rugby forum or b) talk to pretty much anyone on the street
I hate rugby. Cant stand the game and what pisses me off is that in
NZ its being branded as the biggest game in the world. Lets face
it, the game is played by NZ, the pacific islands and who
else???
Some people from an unpopulated part of France, private school children from England, hillbillies from Wales, the whites in Saffa and people from NSW and Queensland.
A sports popularity doesn't have anything to do with how many people that plays it, but I am fed up with hearing about rugby, a marginal sport everywhere except NZ and Samoa being branded as the biggest game on earth.
Fact more people play handball than rugby, fact more people play Icehockey than rugby.
Then when I talk about the biggest and most popular game in the world, football, people look at me like its a small game from the outer Hebrides. They call it poofball despite the fact that the only sport filled with gays in England are rugby. Bumlicking was the name we used for the sport when I grew up and it wasn't without reason...
Besides the talk of football being less popular in this country than league is just ridiculous. Have those people that says that thought about where all the immigrants that has arrived come from?
Footballmad nations like Thailand, Malaysia, China and South Korea.
When Man Utd played Millwall in the FA cup final the other year Man Utd NZ/chinese Supporterclub booked 9 venues in Auckland alone for their members.
We local Millwallfans met in one pub and there we had one part of the venue. Quite a big difference...
Some people from an unpopulated part of France, private school children from England, hillbillies from Wales, the whites in Saffa and people from NSW and Queensland.
A sports popularity doesn't have anything to do with how many people that plays it, but I am fed up with hearing about rugby, a marginal sport everywhere except NZ and Samoa being branded as the biggest game on earth.
Fact more people play handball than rugby, fact more people play Icehockey than rugby.
Then when I talk about the biggest and most popular game in the world, football, people look at me like its a small game from the outer Hebrides. They call it poofball despite the fact that the only sport filled with gays in England are rugby. Bumlicking was the name we used for the sport when I grew up and it wasn't without reason...
Besides the talk of football being less popular in this country than league is just ridiculous. Have those people that says that thought about where all the immigrants that has arrived come from?
Footballmad nations like Thailand, Malaysia, China and South Korea.
When Man Utd played Millwall in the FA cup final the other year Man Utd NZ/chinese Supporterclub booked 9 venues in Auckland alone for their members.
We local Millwallfans met in one pub and there we had one part of the venue. Quite a big difference...
I hate rugby. Cant stand the game and what pisses me off is that in
NZ its being branded as the biggest game in the world. Lets face
it, the game is played by NZ, the pacific islands and who
else???
Some people from an unpopulated part of France, private school children from England, hillbillies from Wales, the whites in Saffa and people from NSW and Queensland.
A sports popularity doesn't have anything to do with how many people that plays it, but I am fed up with hearing about rugby, a marginal sport everywhere except NZ and Samoa being branded as the biggest game on earth.
Fact more people play handball than rugby, fact more people play Icehockey than rugby.
Then when I talk about the biggest and most popular game in the world, football, people look at me like its a small game from the outer Hebrides. They call it poofball despite the fact that the only sport filled with gays in England are rugby. Bumlicking was the name we used for the sport when I grew up and it wasn't without reason...
Besides the talk of football being less popular in this country than league is just ridiculous. Have those people that says that thought about where all the immigrants that has arrived come from?
Footballmad nations like Thailand, Malaysia, China and South Korea.
When Man Utd played Millwall in the FA cup final the other year Man Utd NZ/chinese Supporterclub booked 9 venues in Auckland alone for their members.
We local Millwallfans met in one pub and there we had one part of the venue. Quite a big difference...
Some people from an unpopulated part of France, private school children from England, hillbillies from Wales, the whites in Saffa and people from NSW and Queensland.
A sports popularity doesn't have anything to do with how many people that plays it, but I am fed up with hearing about rugby, a marginal sport everywhere except NZ and Samoa being branded as the biggest game on earth.
Fact more people play handball than rugby, fact more people play Icehockey than rugby.
Then when I talk about the biggest and most popular game in the world, football, people look at me like its a small game from the outer Hebrides. They call it poofball despite the fact that the only sport filled with gays in England are rugby. Bumlicking was the name we used for the sport when I grew up and it wasn't without reason...
Besides the talk of football being less popular in this country than league is just ridiculous. Have those people that says that thought about where all the immigrants that has arrived come from?
Footballmad nations like Thailand, Malaysia, China and South Korea.
When Man Utd played Millwall in the FA cup final the other year Man Utd NZ/chinese Supporterclub booked 9 venues in Auckland alone for their members.
We local Millwallfans met in one pub and there we had one part of the venue. Quite a big difference...
why can't rugby & football fans live in harmony......my
theory is you can like one or the other or even both.....I can't
see a point in sl*gging either off....
I love football (and have always played it) and also love rugby
league (and never played it) - don't see the problem.
Rugby is a bit dull but could improve if they change the rules
to keep the action going. I'll still watch the knock out phase of
the World Cup but Rugby League is the better of the odd shaped ball
games.
Born and raised in Glasgow, I love football more than anything else
in the World (apart from my wife & kids) but when I lived in
Wellington I was a season ticket holder at the Stadium from Day 1
for the 'Canes and the Lions. Now that I've moved up here I'm a
Warriors season ticket holder.
In my experience, for what it's worth, I've met an awful lot more football fans who like league and rugby than the other way round. The mere mention of football seems to drive most rugby supporters into insane rants, which usually include the word poof several times. One of the biggest let-downs I've ever experienced was going to a Bledisloe Cup game in Wellington. I expected the atmosphere to be amazing. It was s**t, I've seen more life in a tramp's vest. One thing that football will always have over rugby is the atmosphere at the games and if we keep going the way we've started, I can see a lot more egg chasers converting to the 'Nix.
Auckland Jag2007-08-27 21:08:16
In my experience, for what it's worth, I've met an awful lot more football fans who like league and rugby than the other way round. The mere mention of football seems to drive most rugby supporters into insane rants, which usually include the word poof several times. One of the biggest let-downs I've ever experienced was going to a Bledisloe Cup game in Wellington. I expected the atmosphere to be amazing. It was s**t, I've seen more life in a tramp's vest. One thing that football will always have over rugby is the atmosphere at the games and if we keep going the way we've started, I can see a lot more egg chasers converting to the 'Nix.
Auckland Jag2007-08-27 21:08:16
You're right Archie Jaq. A bad rugby game is very flat indeed. As for the Stadium, it's a great venue for football or rugby. But who wants to take their young kids to a live game of rugby at the Stadium at night in the middle of winter. In my opinion rugby has sold out the fanbase by having nearly all the winter games at night, for the benefit of television. Loads of opportunity there to pick up nerw fans. And they're welcome!