Marist v UHC was played at Te Whaea.
Should it have been?
Other teams have had to beat both Marist and their great Kilbirnie pitch to get points. So why were UHC given a the break that they were? Surely they were handed an advantage?
What say others?
Should it have been?
Other teams have had to beat both Marist and their great Kilbirnie pitch to get points. So why were UHC given a the break that they were? Surely they were handed an advantage?
What say others?
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No different to some teams playing Marist in April on Kilbirnie Park (when it's OK) and some in July (when it's a bog). Swings, roundabouts, vagaries of the draw and all that.
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Wharfies played Island Bay at the turf aswell.. No Wakefield?
Plus from what i have seen this year Upper Hutt Play better in the Mud
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Saturday's game wasn't being played in April. Considering the it could theoretically have decided the championship I'd have to say it was a bad call....
Hardly a level playing field.... geddit?
Hardly a level playing field.... geddit?
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I hadn't thought about what was suggested in the OP but I was asked... "What happens to your club's bar takings? Regular games up at Te Whaea could make a dent in takings.... " I had no answer.
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Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
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Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
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bar takings virtually go to nil. Big issue
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Ummm, surely bar takings going down from postponed or cancelled games are an even bigger issue? Artificials have to be the way ahead.
Te Whaea is an exception to the norm because it doesn't really belong to any club but it's true that decisions about where and when exisiting grass grounds get converted to artificial could have a big impact on individual clubs' fortunes.
Still, I'm sure that most clubs are capable of seeing the big picture and putting the good of the game ahead of their own selfish needs. After all, we have a great track record of that here in Wellington 
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We all bitch and moan that games get cancelled. we have a great artificial turf to use now and we bitch and moan that its not fair when a game isnt played in the mud.
So for every team in all grades that have played at the turf have had an unfair advantage have they.
So for every team in all grades that have played at the turf have had an unfair advantage have they.
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Marist v UHC was played at Te Whaea.
Should it have been?
Other teams have had to beat both Marist and their great Kilbirnie pitch to get points. So why were UHC given a the break that they were? Surely they were handed an advantage?
What say others?
well did Marist ask for it to be changed? If not what are you on about?Should it have been?
Other teams have had to beat both Marist and their great Kilbirnie pitch to get points. So why were UHC given a the break that they were? Surely they were handed an advantage?
What say others?
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I see your point turkieye - but we have only played one game at Kilbernie when it's been a bog this year (against Stop Out, when we lost), more recently our games have been moved to Adventure park, for a game against Kapiti - you could half argue we were put out and Kapiti, gained an almost homefield advantage over it. But we didn't and we won, so no biggy.
I think every Marist lad was stoked to be playing at the artificial turf, and we gave Upper Hutt a good scare till I had my obligatory mare moment
And as for bar - we went back to our club, but it was more the fact other games got cancelled, like others have said, then a game at Te Whaea, affecting our takings.
I think every Marist lad was stoked to be playing at the artificial turf, and we gave Upper Hutt a good scare till I had my obligatory mare moment
And as for bar - we went back to our club, but it was more the fact other games got cancelled, like others have said, then a game at Te Whaea, affecting our takings.
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oh thought you were talking about wimmins here.
Sometimes you have to roll with the punches with grounds when they are trying to get through games.
So you saying you gifted UH the league then Nomad?
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oh thought you were talking about wimmins here.
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Sometimes you have to roll with the punches with grounds when they are trying to get through games.
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So you saying you gifted UH the league then Nomad?
No I thought you guys did that by losing to Island Bay?
And I only gifted them a draw, my midfielder gifted them the penalty to win
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We all bitch and moan that games get cancelled. we have a great artificial turf to use now and we bitch and moan that its not fair when a game isnt played in the mud.
So for every team in all grades that have played at the turf have had an unfair advantage have they.
So for every team in all grades that have played at the turf have had an unfair advantage have they.
Teething problems in a new process that's what it is. It's right that we are asking questions about it.
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
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If you want to know what effect an artificial turf will have on a Football Club you only need to ask any hockey player about their Clubs, Subs and Clubrooms. Hockey have had an artificial for years and now have lots of them.
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Hahaha I think this topic is hilarious, we have all been playing on muddy pitches for the last however many weeks and then get one game on the turf then back to mud. I would say playing on the turf is a disadvantage when the ball actually runs true rather than bobbling....lol
If another team had won the league in a similar fashion would you still be complaining Turkiye? Or is it cos UH won? I think most teams have managed to play on the turf this year in premier league so was that a disadvantage or advantage to teams?
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The match should be replayed at Kilbirnie Pk
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The match should be replayed at Kilbirnie Pk
This.Fuck this stupid game
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The match should be replayed at Kilbirnie Pk
Yeah sure and they will replay the World Cup Final at Ellis Park, or maybe that pitch you played on in Sth Africa Greeny?
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No, I think the WC final was scheduled on the correct ground, unlike the travesty that occurred on the weekend..
Furthermore, I believe the Wharf game should be replayed at KP so their long-ball game can really kick in.
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If another team had won the league in a similar fashion would you still be complaining Turkiye? Or is it cos UH won? I think most teams have managed to play on the turf this year in premier league so was that a disadvantage or advantage to teams?
Nothing to do with UH wnniing. I simply made an argument about the match being played where it was at a this particular point in the season.
For my part - decent pitches are important for decent football.
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Ridiculous thread. I was glad to finally play on a descent surface. We lost because we were rubbish.
A fair point about the loss of revenue. A number of teams already lose this money as the state of Wellingtons pitches is so dire anyway so I prefer this solution.
Does anyone else think that it was ridiculous that (a) the council did not open the carpark gates and (b) only two changing rooms were constructed.
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It looks as though the only way you get to park at the top by the ground is if you drive a capital football vehicle.
I too prefer to play on the better sufaces as you get to see (or should see) a better spectacle of football rather than poorer football in a mudbath. Also the ground at Te Whaea is cushioned and helps my old bones when keeping...lol
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It looks as though the only way you get to park at the top by the ground is if you drive a capital football vehicle.
I'm told you have plenty of cushioning on your body let alone having to rely on the artificial cushioningI too prefer to play on the better sufaces as you get to see (or should see) a better spectacle of football rather than poorer football in a mudbath. Also the ground at Te Whaea is cushioned and helps my old bones when keeping...lol
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This is an outstanding thread.
We have just been having exactly the same conversation with Rugbys Jubilee Cup. Some Clubs felt that because Poneke got to play a Premier game on the Artificial they were more likely to get a bonus point in that game and thus had an unfair advantage.
Like a lot of people have said on here, working with artificials and how we utilise them correctly is a very difficult question and one that it will take time for codes to get their heads around.
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I'm thinking this calls for a blanket decision over all codes that all games to date played on the turf are null and void and need to be replayed.
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I'm thinking this calls for a blanket decision over all codes that all games to date played on the turf are null and void and need to be replayed.
ARF!
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Ridiculous thread. I was glad to finally play on a descent surface. We lost because we were rubbish.
A fair point about the loss of revenue. A number of teams already lose this money as the state of Wellingtons pitches is so dire anyway so I prefer this solution.
Does anyone else think that it was ridiculous that (a) the council did not open the carpark gates and (b) only two changing rooms were constructed.
Well said Langer, LMFAO Turkiye, next you will be saying your team shouldn't play this weekend cos they have 3 injuries and another team got to play the same opposition at full strength 
That's football, we'd all rather play than not rather play its luck of the draw on which pitch with Wellington, you should be used to that by now bahahahahahahahahahahaha,
I certainly enjoyed my game there a few months ago
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I'm thinking this calls for a blanket decision over all codes that all games to date played on the turf are null and void and need to be replayed.
ARF!
Didn't your wimmin topple the title holders there recently greeny, and then not go so well in the mud??? You want that one replayed too??
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Well said Langer, LMFAO Turkiye, next you will be saying your team shouldn't play this weekend cos they have 3 injuries and another team got to play the same opposition at full strength
No I would not. A few posts back I said "I simply made an argument about the match being played where it was at a this particular point in the season".
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Well said Langer, LMFAO Turkiye, next you will be saying your team shouldn't play this weekend cos they have 3 injuries and another team got to play the same opposition at full strength
No I would not. A few posts back I said "I simply made an argument about the match being played where it was at a this particular point in the season".
The game has been played result is in get over it!!!!!
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No one has pointed out the major issue with the turf yet. Cant blame the bobble of the ball when I shin one over the crossbar from 6 yards
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No one has pointed out the major issue with the turf yet. Cant blame the bobble of the ball when I shin one over the crossbar from 6 yards
Why not? Those Jabalani's are crap. Ask any world cup player not sponsored by Adidas.
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