It seems over the last decade that CF has become more focused on revenue rather than the administration of the code for the enjoyment of all. If you are not fortunate enough to have an official on the Board, have you noticed the somewhat double standard that has become a regular occurance, relating to favouratism of certain clubs regarding such things like ground allocation, lesser penalties, etc.
GinaVaa2011-06-28 13:47:10
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Looks like your losing this one...
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For now maybe, however I might still get the 3 points back when they find out we played on the wrong field.
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Landslide.
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It seems over the last decade that CF has become more focused on revenue rather than the administration of the code for the enjoyment of all. If you are not fortunate enough to have an official on the Board, have you noticed the somewhat double standard that has become a regular occurance, relating to favouratism of certain clubs regarding such things like ground allocation, lesser penalties, etc.
Would you like to provide some examples?
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Disgusting double standards from capital football regarding banning players
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That's not an example Dr Horse.
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I thought this was going to be another Olympic thread.
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It seems over the last decade that CF has become more focused on revenue rather than the administration of the code for the enjoyment of all. If you are not fortunate enough to have an official on the Board, have you noticed the somewhat double standard that has become a regular occurance, relating to favouratism of certain clubs regarding such things like ground allocation, lesser penalties, etc.
Would you like to provide some examples?
Example 1
Western Suburbs Juniors play in the same leagues as other clubs. They have a different age criteria range from half way through the year to the other half of next year. So a child turning 11 later this year is still ok to play in the 10th grade.
Why allow WS this and not others?
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It seems over the last decade that CF has become more focused on revenue rather than the administration of the code for the enjoyment of all. If you are not fortunate enough to have an official on the Board, have you noticed the somewhat double standard that has become a regular occurance, relating to favouratism of certain clubs regarding such things like ground allocation, lesser penalties, etc.
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Would you like to provide some examples?
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Example 1
Western Suburbs Juniors play in the same leagues as other clubs. They have a different age criteria range from half way through the year to the other half of next year. So a child turning 11�later this year is still ok to play in the 10th grade.
Why allow WS this and not others?��
This sounds like a yarn to me, but I will follow it up with CF and let you know what their response is.
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Example 2
$75,000 collected in fines last year and just a couple of weeks ago have informed all that a fee will be charged to a club wishing to appeal a disciplinary decision, to cover the costs of getting officials to the hearing. Didn't they get enough from fines to cover it?
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Example 3
Are we not an amatuer sport, whereby we don't get paid.
Then why are they getting fines? Surely amatuer players can receive cards and suspensions without incurring financial penalties. Even worse that some are school children with no income.
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Example 4
Why have ammendments been made to the junior regulations requiring JPL/PROMO teams to have a level 2 coach and level 1 ref from 2012? This is the same as speed cameras. Revenue.
Who do they think will wear the cost? The clubs? Most probably the parents as usual I fear.
As a hard working soccermom who wants the best for her footballing kids, I give up my time to help out because no one else is volunteering. I and others should not be penalised for getting involved, especially when we produce results. Don't get me started on the fines our juniors can get according to the same regs.
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Word.
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It seems over the last decade that CF has become more focused on revenue rather than the administration of the code for the enjoyment of all. If you are not fortunate enough to have an official on the Board, have you noticed the somewhat double standard that has become a regular occurance, relating to favouratism of certain clubs regarding such things like ground allocation, lesser penalties, etc.
Would you like to provide some examples?
Example 1
Western Suburbs Juniors play in the same leagues as other clubs. They have a different age criteria range from half way through the year to the other half of next year. So a child turning 11 later this year is still ok to play in the 10th grade.
Why allow WS this and not others?
This sounds like a yarn to me, but I will follow it up with CF and let you know what their response is.
You should start by asking Wests that you have a child you would like to enrol and what age grade they are eligable for. I did.
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Okay, I'll ask Wests as well.
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Example 4
Why have ammendments been made to the junior regulations requiring JPL/PROMO teams to have a level 2 coach and level 1 ref from 2012? This is the same as speed cameras. Revenue.
Who do they think will wear the cost? The clubs? Most probably the parents as usual I fear.
As a hard working soccermom who wants the best for her footballing kids, I give up my time to help out because no one else is volunteering. I and others should not be penalised for getting involved, especially when we produce results. Don't get me started on the fines our juniors can get according to the same regs.
No this is because the standard of coaching and refereeing in junior football is woeful and they want to try to improve it.
This isn't a punishment, it's an opportunity to learn and do a better job as a volunteer.
The courses aren't particularly expensive, and compared to the other costs a club faces, are negligible. I'm also fairly sure if you approached CF with a story of genuine hardship they would help you out.
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Example 3
Are we not an amatuer sport, whereby we don't get paid.
Then why are�they getting fines? Surely amatuer players can receive cards and suspensions without incurring financial penalties. Even worse that some are school children with no income.
If you don't want to get fined, don't foul. Fines have always attached to cards in senior football. And so they should. The fact that the sport is not professional is not relevant?
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Example 2
$75,000 collected in fines last year and just�a couple of weeks ago�have informed all that a fee will be charged to a club wishing to appeal a disciplinary decision, to cover the costs of getting officials to the hearing. Didn't they get enough from fines to cover it?
I'm sort of with you on this one, if what you say is true.
The costs of the disciplinary processes (such as they are) should surely come out of fines revenue (of which there is plenty).
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Word.
Example 5
12. Fines
1) The following fines shall be applicable: a) For non-compliance with requirements to provide nets and flag poles; $20.00 per infringement,
b) For non compliance with requirements to telephone results (Home Team) and post team cards;$10.00 per infringement,
c) For a team defaulting without previously obtaining the consent of the Manager; $100.00 per infringement together with the possible expulsion from Junior Premier and Promotion Leagues for subsequent defaults.
Really? For kids? Did I mention the technical area has to be provided?I can see it now, I'll load all the kids into the car Saturday morning and the poles/nets as well. Maybe I'll just go and purchase a van especially for Saturday, that's if I can afford to after getting my level 2 certificate and level 1 ref badge.
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Errr, what's so unreasonable about that?
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Look my point is the sport is supposed to be fun for most, especially kids. Instead it seems to be somewhat of a gentlemens club catering for the gentleman with draconian measures being applied to all factions of the code rather than just to the elite where it should apply. For goodness sake there is not even a right of appeal process that is fair and allows witnesses. The referee is always right even when he/she is lying.
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Errr, what's so unreasonable about that?
They're 10-14 year old kids
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Look my point is the sport is supposed to be fun for most, especially kids. Instead it seems to be somewhat of a gentlemens club catering for the gentleman with draconian measures being applied to all factions of the code rather than just to the elite where it should apply. For goodness sake there is not even a right of appeal process that is fair and allows witnesses. The referee is always right even when he/she is lying.
I agree that the processes are quite sh*te. But it's not like CF go hard enforcing them.
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Another example of revenue gathering by forced compliance. It should be recommended not forced. What makes someone with the qualifications more worthy anyway?
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Looks like your losing this one...
I might win this one when the special votes come in 
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Another example of revenue gathering by forced compliance. It should be recommended not forced. What makes someone with the qualifications more worthy anyway?
we had that debate at the senior meetingFounder
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Another example of revenue gathering by forced compliance. It should be recommended not forced. What makes someone with the qualifications more worthy anyway?
we had that debate at the senior meeting
Just because you have no qualifications Greenie...
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Another example of revenue gathering by forced compliance. It should be recommended not forced. What makes someone with the qualifications more worthy anyway?
we had that debate at the senior meeting
Just because you have no qualifications Greenie...
Founder
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Only for your money is making a late charge...GinaVaa must have rung around the neighbours...
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Example 3
Are we not an amatuer sport, whereby we don't get paid.
Then why are they getting fines? Surely amatuer players can receive cards and suspensions without incurring financial penalties. Even worse that some are school children with no income.
Maybe if they only had fines for say Cap 2 and above because players and refs rate themselfs at those levels but for under its a social game played by social uncoordinated players and refs that will and do make silly mistakes on a much more bizzar scale.
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Rules applying for some players/grades and not others? Seems a little unfair.
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Only for your money is making a late charge...GinaVaa must have rung around the neighbours...
Or voted 50 times.Allegedly
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55-55-55-55-55 what an even poll!
(I was bored)
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Jesus wept...
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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Rules applying for some players/grades and not others? Seems a little unfair.
not rule smart fella just the monetry fines
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