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12 Aug 02:58
Luke Supyk holding on to cap1 league golden boot scoring 13 of LH’s 0 goals 

Founder

12 Aug 03:41
so LHC lost 11 points? how work, I read that all games the player was part off cost LHC a 3-0 loss. 11 points =  3 losses and 2 draws.

Queenslander 3x a year.

12 Aug 03:49
theprof
so LHC lost 11 points? how work, I read that all games the player was part off cost LHC a 3-0 loss. 11 points =  3 losses and 2 draws.

Say what?

Founder

12 Aug 05:08
Feverish
theprof
so LHC lost 11 points? how work, I read that all games the player was part off cost LHC a 3-0 loss. 11 points =  3 losses and 2 draws.

Say what?

ignore me, misread the tables. 

Queenslander 3x a year.

13 Aug 22:06 · edited 14 Aug 04:44 · History
Comprehensive win for IBU v SO keeps things interesting at the top of the table.

Q: If SO/IBU do not get promoted, is it 3 go down ?
15 Aug 07:40
Only if a UTD, Wests or NW gets relegated also 
24 Aug 19:33
Island Bag facey post says that Lower Hutt still has an appeal in play to NZF?

Founder

27 Aug 04:40
All tied up in the cap prem on points, stop out go through to play off.
27 Aug 07:07 · edited 27 Aug 07:08 · History
The sort of glitch, now sorted, that can cause heart failure.
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Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

27 Aug 07:28
Stop Out go through having scored more goals 😢
27 Aug 09:30 · edited 27 Aug 09:34 · History
Tyler
Stop Out go through having scored more goals 😢
So Stop Out win on goals “for” based on the 3 goals they were given for the overturned result against Lower Hutt. In-other-words they won on 3 goals “for” they never scored?

27 Aug 10:22
The LH appeal is still active innit 

Founder

27 Aug 22:53
Feverish
The LH appeal is still active innit 
I believe so.
28 Aug 00:44

The appeal should have been sorted out before Saturday. 
29 Aug 01:39
whatever

The appeal should have been sorted out before Saturday. 
Presumably the appeal has to have been sorted before the playoff matches will be played v Whanganui Athletic?
29 Aug 11:06 · edited 29 Aug 11:07 · History
Surely be pretty bad look for NZF to go against the initial judgement of the competition manager for capital football (and then the upheld initial appeal)...
29 Aug 11:31
Talk around the traps is that LHC believe they were told by CF that dispensation were either granted or not needed. So perhaps there was some miscommunication or misunderstanding.
29 Aug 18:11
2ndBest
Talk around the traps is that LHC believe they were told by CF that dispensation were either granted or not needed. So perhaps there was some miscommunication or misunderstanding.

Sounds hard to believe. If they had evidence of this I doubt we would be in this situation. 
Some talk that the nix thought they had cart blanche permission from NZF to play whatever ages they like (despite this being LH)

Founder

29 Aug 20:38 · edited 29 Aug 20:38 · History
Feverish
2ndBest
Talk around the traps is that LHC believe they were told by CF that dispensation were either granted or not needed. So perhaps there was some miscommunication or misunderstanding.

Sounds hard to believe. If they had evidence of this I doubt we would be in this situation. 
Some talk that the nix thought they had cart blanche permission from NZF to play whatever ages they like (despite this being LH)

I think a broad dispensation for the Nix/LH would be a reasonable accommodation, but unless the regulations are updated & the rest of the league is made aware of it then it shouldn't have happened. If the appeal stands it'll be a farce (so based on my experiences with Capital Football I fully expect the appeal to succeed).

Valley FC til I die?

29 Aug 22:38
Not sure I agree on this. Dispensation rules exist as a check and balance to protect young people and parents from a range of physical and mental wellbeing risks. I don't think (any) club should have carte blanche to ignore a safeguarding control.
30 Aug 00:45
Which is fine on the face of it, but I'd love to know what checks CF actually do (if any).
30 Aug 02:05
2ndBest
Which is fine on the face of it, but I'd love to know what checks CF actually do (if any).
They have the process and checks detailed on their website 

https://thejourneyfan.blogspot.co.nz/

New Zealand Football Media Association Website of the year 2015 & 2016

30 Aug 03:46
Not sure what exactly happens these days, but have spoken to CF football development peeps observing at trainings/CDL games in the past.
30 Aug 08:55 · edited 30 Aug 08:59 · History
The JourneyFan
2ndBest
Which is fine on the face of it, but I'd love to know what checks CF actually do (if any).
They have the process and checks detailed on their website 
Except that doesn't say anything about ongoing monitoring of players with dispensation. It says why it's important and how to get it but after that, what are the check and balances to make sure clubs and schools are continuing the management of the player?
I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
30 Aug 21:43
There is precedence however for CF telling a club one thing and then NZF overturning it.

Many years ago when I was at Naenae we lost a CP/Cap 1 play-off against Olympic, who fielded a Central League player after being told by CF that it was ok to play him. We appealed to NZF and CFs decision was overturned by NZF. 

If Lower Hutt have been given permission by CF to play these players, but didn't bother to cross check this with NZF then it's on them I guess?
31 Aug 20:32
Where this decision at??

Founder

31 Aug 20:55
First central league playoff is this Saturday up on Whanganui
31 Aug 21:03
Feverish
Where this decision at??

lost in the post? or maybe Capital football has the same fax issues as NZF?

Queenslander 3x a year.

31 Aug 22:31
ChopperNZ
There is precedence however for CF telling a club one thing and then NZF overturning it.

Many years ago when I was at Naenae we lost a CP/Cap 1 play-off against Olympic, who fielded a Central League player after being told by CF that it was ok to play him. We appealed to NZF and CFs decision was overturned by NZF. 

If Lower Hutt have been given permission by CF to play these players, but didn't bother to cross check this with NZF then it's on them I guess?

The issue here is NZF telling the Phoenix they could do something without telling CF, or CF deciding they didn't like it and using their power as the administrator of the competition. 
01 Sep 00:19
This is just crazy - Stop Out are preparing for the play offs, NZF then decide in Lower Hutt's favour, Stop Out lose the two points they gained through this decision, Island Bay win the league - Stop Out will then appeal the decision and the merry go round continues. Since LHC got themselves out of relegation trouble, will they then withdrawal their appeal, leaving Island Bay upset as Stop Out picked up points not earnt on the field. The whole lot needed to be sorted long before now!
01 Sep 02:52
SO have no right of appeal. This is between LHC and CF. And once NZF made their ruling (seems like they have) I doubt CF have any appeal option. 
01 Sep 04:47 · edited 01 Sep 04:48 · History
So 2ndBest - by you saying CF have no right of appeal, are you saying NZF have ruled in LHC favour and Island Bay have now won the league? Play Offs, delayed?
01 Sep 05:26
Play off postponed. NZ Football have over turned the ruling. Capital Football have the right to appeal… Unreal
01 Sep 05:45
Dear Clubs,

Please see the below message sent to participating clubs in the Capital Football Men’s Capital Premier and Capital 1 competitions.

Capital Football would like to provide an update to those clubs participating in the Capital Football Men’s Capital Premier and Capital 1 competitions regarding the dispensation regulation breach by Lower Hutt City AFC.

The New Zealand Football Disciplinary Committee (NZF DC) have reviewed the appeal made by LHCAFC and have made the decision to overturn the sanctions imposed by the Competitions Administration before 22 July 2022. See below:
 
 The sanctions imposed on the LHCAFC and the points reduction for the matches before 22 July 2022 are rescinded or overturned and points restored.
 The sanctions imposed on the LHCAFC and the points reduction for the matches after 22 July 2022 still stand.
 
Please note, it is stated in the NZ Football Disciplinary Code, this decision can be further appealed to the New Zealand Football Appeals Committee.

Capital Football Management and Board are currently working through the next steps and will send out further communications to Clubs no later than 5pm Friday 2 September.

Capital Football can confirm that the decision has been made to postpone the scheduled Central League playoff game this weekend (Saturday 3 September).

Again, we appreciate your patience while we work through this. Should you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.

Kind Regards,

Blair Duncan
01 Sep 06:34
Farce, but not surprised.
01 Sep 07:08
Lower Hutt have applied for dispensations every year ... why would this year be any different? The rules around applying for dispensations have not changed. Even if they were told something like 'you won't have any issues' they surely still need to apply and go through the process like everyone else.
01 Sep 07:36
VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE ????? SURELY
01 Sep 09:20
But there is a right of appeal….. can Stop Out appeal or do CF have to?