Chatham Cup 2014

3:30 draw...... Suspense is killing me

First out

Dunedin Tech vs. Cashmere Technical

Next 1/4 Melville Utd vs Onehunga Sports

Next Island Bays Utd vs. Napier City Rovers

A National draw with all the games still regional. I bet noone saw that coming...

central v Bay o

So random draw........

Dunedin Tech vs Cashmere

IBU vs NCR

hrmmmmmmm

And finally Central Utd vs. Bays Olympic or Hamilton Wanderderss

Was this one suppose to be National, wasn't sure when I saw the match ups come out. If it was suppose to be National, very funny they stayed regional.

Calling Chris Cairns....

In theory it was a fully National draw

Bear in mind ...its NZF ...if they tried to fix it , itd be very apparent ....

Open draw?

Hahaha, crazy. Anyone want to work out the odds of that happening then, i'm no good at maths.

Wonder what the odds are of this happening as often as it 'randomly' does.

Any statisticians?

is it about 1/560 ? 

No, it's not. Rubbish calculation. 

hmm 3/7 * 1/5 * 1/4 something like that...I think I am going to stop now. Am not good at this.

8 teams ...chances that all would end up local ....hmmm itd be a high-ish number methinks ...

IBU to draw NCR 1/7 (14%)

Dunedin to draw Cashmere 1/5 (20%)

So would that be a 2.8% chance?

Yep, 1 in 35 (or as you say 2.8%). 

Yep, 1 in 35 (or as you say 2.8%). 

Tho the odds would shorten considerably as the draw went on ...

Why dont they just come out and say stay regional until semis? Most clubs struggling for money so probably wouldnt mind!! Of course this draw is the cheapest for NZF as well.......

if they were trying to rig it they'd have got it wrong...more likely they were trying to do a national draw and forgot to put all the names in one pot or something...oops.

...and last year the central sides played the Southern sides at this stage.

The problem you have is that if you have 2 teams that come out first and those two teams are the only local teams they could play, then 4 of the next 6 (that is left over in the pot) have high odds of coming out local.

I'm not defending this here because this has happened every year for the last 10 to be 'random' but once those two teams are out early, then the odds of more locals hitting each other becomes higher.

Incidentally can someone tell me why SI has 2 spots, Central has 2 spots but Northern gets 4? Does not exactly seems fairly slanted?

So that its easier to rig the draw....

Sorry ...that was what I meant ....

Population ?

Which ever way you look at it,--- it is a have.

Was told a while back it was due to the quality of Northern region clubs being higher. That's probably not the official explanation but an unofficial slant of it, if you will.

That stands up when 4 of the last 5 winners have come from elsewhere and the Northern win was when Central bought it.

Bought it?  Who did they buy it off?

Not that easy to buy it is it......

Just ask Glenfield Rovers

Don't think you could make an argument that Capital/Central should have 4 spots though. Talent is more concerntrated in a few teams than up north.

4-2-2 seems fine to me.

You can't just use the argument based around previous winners. You wouldn't give Southern any more spots just because Cashmere won it last season for example.

3-3-2 may be a bit fairer, if that could ever be implemented.

No issue with the split which is allocated based on the number of entrants

In this years comp there are 120 teams, 63 teams from the Northern Region (53%), 29 from the Southern Region (24%) and 28 from the Central Region (23%), so the split is about right.

That makes a lot of sense tbh.

and what's wrong with Tottenham ??? 

and a split 3-3-2 would mean a draw like we have just been handed would never be possible.

as the two regions with three would always have a team who would play a team outside there region no matter how you tried to fix the draw to limit costs.

but a thought to ponder is why don't NZF pay/get sponsor to pay for travel between major centres for semis onwards as this would mean clubs would not have the same burdens and some clubs might try a bit harder……

just a thought to ponder.