Trialist
5
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96
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over 16 years

3:30 draw...... Suspense is killing me

Marquee
540
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6.9K
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about 15 years

First out

Dunedin Tech vs. Cashmere Technical

Marquee
540
·
6.9K
·
about 15 years

Next 1/4 Melville Utd vs Onehunga Sports

Marquee
540
·
6.9K
·
about 15 years

Next Island Bays Utd vs. Napier City Rovers

First Team Squad
69
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1K
·
about 17 years

A National draw with all the games still regional. I bet noone saw that coming...

and 2 others
Must try harder
96
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1.5K
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over 17 years

central v Bay o

Trialist
5
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96
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over 16 years

So random draw........

Dunedin Tech vs Cashmere

IBU vs NCR

hrmmmmmmm

Marquee
540
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6.9K
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about 15 years

And finally Central Utd vs. Bays Olympic or Hamilton Wanderderss

Marquee
3.3K
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5.1K
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over 13 years

otagofan wrote:

A National draw with all the games still regional. I bet noone saw that coming...

Was this one suppose to be National, wasn't sure when I saw the match ups come out. If it was suppose to be National, very funny they stayed regional.

Phoenix Academy
66
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390
·
almost 12 years

Calling Chris Cairns....

First Team Squad
69
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1K
·
about 17 years

Yakcall wrote:

otagofan wrote:

A National draw with all the games still regional. I bet noone saw that coming...

Was this one suppose to be National, wasn't sure when I saw the match ups come out. If it was suppose to be National, very funny they stayed regional.

In theory it was a fully National draw

Must try harder
96
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1.5K
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over 17 years

Yakcall wrote:

otagofan wrote:

A National draw with all the games still regional. I bet noone saw that coming...

Was this one suppose to be National, wasn't sure when I saw the match ups come out. If it was suppose to be National, very funny they stayed regional.

Bear in mind ...its NZF ...if they tried to fix it , itd be very apparent ....

Legend
2.6K
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17K
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over 17 years
Marquee
3.3K
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5.1K
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over 13 years

otagofan wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

otagofan wrote:

A National draw with all the games still regional. I bet noone saw that coming...

Was this one suppose to be National, wasn't sure when I saw the match ups come out. If it was suppose to be National, very funny they stayed regional.

In theory it was a fully National draw

Hahaha, crazy. Anyone want to work out the odds of that happening then, i'm no good at maths.

Early retirement
3.1K
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34K
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over 17 years

Wonder what the odds are of this happening as often as it 'randomly' does.

Any statisticians?

Phoenix Academy
26
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180
·
almost 15 years

Hard News wrote:

Wonder what the odds are of this happening as often as it 'randomly' does.

Any statisticians?

is it about 1/560 ? 

Phoenix Academy
26
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180
·
almost 15 years

TheHun wrote:

Hard News wrote:

Wonder what the odds are of this happening as often as it 'randomly' does.

Any statisticians?

is it about 1/560 ? 

No, it's not. Rubbish calculation. 

hmm 3/7 * 1/5 * 1/4 something like that...I think I am going to stop now. Am not good at this.

Must try harder
96
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1.5K
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over 17 years

8 teams ...chances that all would end up local ....hmmm itd be a high-ish number methinks ...

Trialist
5
·
96
·
over 16 years

IBU to draw NCR 1/7 (14%)

Dunedin to draw Cashmere 1/5 (20%)

So would that be a 2.8% chance?

Phoenix Academy
26
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180
·
almost 15 years

D_R_G wrote:

IBU to draw NCR 1/7 (14%)

Dunedin to draw Cashmere 1/5 (20%)

So would that be a 2.8% chance?

Yep, 1 in 35 (or as you say 2.8%). 

Phoenix Academy
26
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180
·
almost 15 years

D_R_G wrote:

IBU to draw NCR 1/7 (14%)

Dunedin to draw Cashmere 1/5 (20%)

So would that be a 2.8% chance?

Yep, 1 in 35 (or as you say 2.8%). 

Must try harder
96
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1.5K
·
over 17 years

Tho the odds would shorten considerably as the draw went on ...

Trialist
23
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90
·
about 10 years

Why dont they just come out and say stay regional until semis? Most clubs struggling for money so probably wouldnt mind!! Of course this draw is the cheapest for NZF as well.......

Stage Punch
2.1K
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11K
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about 17 years

FU BLU wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

otagofan wrote:

A National draw with all the games still regional. I bet noone saw that coming...

Was this one suppose to be National, wasn't sure when I saw the match ups come out. If it was suppose to be National, very funny they stayed regional.

Bear in mind ...its NZF ...if they tried to fix it , itd be very apparent ....

if they were trying to rig it they'd have got it wrong...more likely they were trying to do a national draw and forgot to put all the names in one pot or something...oops.

Early retirement
3.1K
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34K
·
over 17 years

...and last year the central sides played the Southern sides at this stage.

Cock
2.7K
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16K
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about 15 years

The problem you have is that if you have 2 teams that come out first and those two teams are the only local teams they could play, then 4 of the next 6 (that is left over in the pot) have high odds of coming out local.

I'm not defending this here because this has happened every year for the last 10 to be 'random' but once those two teams are out early, then the odds of more locals hitting each other becomes higher.

Cock
2.7K
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16K
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about 15 years

Incidentally can someone tell me why SI has 2 spots, Central has 2 spots but Northern gets 4? Does not exactly seems fairly slanted?

Trialist
23
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90
·
about 10 years

So that its easier to rig the draw....

Must try harder
96
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1.5K
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over 17 years

Smithy wrote:

FU BLU wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

otagofan wrote:

A National draw with all the games still regional. I bet noone saw that coming...

Was this one suppose to be National, wasn't sure when I saw the match ups come out. If it was suppose to be National, very funny they stayed regional.

Bear in mind ...its NZF ...if they tried to fix it , itd be very apparent ....

if they were trying to rig it they'd have got it wrong...more likely they were trying to do a national draw and forgot to put all the names in one pot or something...oops.

Sorry ...that was what I meant ....

Must try harder
96
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1.5K
·
over 17 years

Jeff Vader wrote:

Incidentally can someone tell me why SI has 2 spots, Central has 2 spots but Northern gets 4? Does not exactly seems fairly slanted?

Population ?

tradition and history
1.5K
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9.9K
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about 17 years

Which ever way you look at it,--- it is a have.

Starting XI
70
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3.1K
·
almost 14 years

Jeff Vader wrote:

Incidentally can someone tell me why SI has 2 spots, Central has 2 spots but Northern gets 4? Does not exactly seems fairly slanted?

Was told a while back it was due to the quality of Northern region clubs being higher. That's probably not the official explanation but an unofficial slant of it, if you will.

Early retirement
3.1K
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34K
·
over 17 years

That stands up when 4 of the last 5 winners have come from elsewhere and the Northern win was when Central bought it.

Trialist
23
·
90
·
about 10 years

Bought it?  Who did they buy it off?

Not that easy to buy it is it......

Just ask Glenfield Rovers

Appiah without the pace
6.7K
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19K
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about 17 years

Hard News wrote:

That stands up when 4 of the last 5 winners have come from elsewhere and the Northern win was when Central bought it.

Don't think you could make an argument that Capital/Central should have 4 spots though. Talent is more concerntrated in a few teams than up north.

4-2-2 seems fine to me.

Legend
2.6K
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17K
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over 17 years

Hard News wrote:

That stands up when 4 of the last 5 winners have come from elsewhere and the Northern win was when Central bought it.

You can't just use the argument based around previous winners. You wouldn't give Southern any more spots just because Cashmere won it last season for example.

3-3-2 may be a bit fairer, if that could ever be implemented.

First Team Squad
69
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1K
·
about 17 years

No issue with the split which is allocated based on the number of entrants

In this years comp there are 120 teams, 63 teams from the Northern Region (53%), 29 from the Southern Region (24%) and 28 from the Central Region (23%), so the split is about right.

and 2 others
Legend
2.6K
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17K
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over 17 years

otagofan wrote:

No issue with the split which is allocated based on the number of entrants

In this years comp there are 120 teams, 63 teams from the Northern Region (53%), 29 from the Southern Region (24%) and 28 from the Central Region (23%), so the split is about right.

That makes a lot of sense tbh.

Trialist
0
·
13
·
about 10 years

and what's wrong with Tottenham ??? 

Split Personalities
57
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520
·
almost 11 years

otagofan wrote:

No issue with the split which is allocated based on the number of entrants

In this years comp there are 120 teams, 63 teams from the Northern Region (53%), 29 from the Southern Region (24%) and 28 from the Central Region (23%), so the split is about right.

and a split 3-3-2 would mean a draw like we have just been handed would never be possible.

as the two regions with three would always have a team who would play a team outside there region no matter how you tried to fix the draw to limit costs.

but a thought to ponder is why don't NZF pay/get sponsor to pay for travel between major centres for semis onwards as this would mean clubs would not have the same burdens and some clubs might try a bit harder……

just a thought to ponder.

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