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You guys should come to Christchurch and get more bang for your buck.  If you watch Cashmere Technical play, you can see the Premier League, Chatham Cup winners and Canterbury United all in one game!

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Island Bay match confirmed for a 6pm kick off

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VimFuego wrote:

You guys should come to Christchurch and get more bang for your buck.  If you watch Cashmere Technical play, you can see the Premier League, Chatham Cup winners and Canterbury United all in one game!

Ditto for the ladies down here as well.

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VimFuego wrote:

You guys should come to Christchurch and get more bang for your buck.  If you watch Cashmere Technical play, you can see the Premier League, Chatham Cup winners and Canterbury United all in one game!

That's the problem. ASBP just seems like a random team in each city playing each other in what are almost friendlies since nobody outside of Auckland wins it anyway. It should be more along the lines of a super team from each region where the best players from all clubs represent the whole region (rather than one club). 
I love the idea of ASBP, but it just isn't as gripping as central league or Chatham cup. As Smithy said, the emotion just isn't there. 
Anyway, getting off topic. 
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Tegal wrote:

I love the idea of ASBP, but it just isn't as gripping as central league or Chatham cup. As Smithy said, the emotion just isn't there. 

10000% this. 

Winter football >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Summer football. Ask a few players who play/have played both and they will tell you the same thing.

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Buffon II wrote:
Tegal wrote:

I love the idea of ASBP, but it just isn't as gripping as central league or Chatham cup. As Smithy said, the emotion just isn't there. 

10000% this. 

Winter football >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Summer football. Ask a few players who play/have played both and they will tell you the same thing.

Sounds like you want the old National League. But this is The Chatham Cup Thread. Talk cup of go to ASBP thread
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"I love the idea of ASBP, but it just isn't as gripping as central league or Chatham cup. As Smithy said, the emotion just isn't there."

Quite simply, Central League and Chatham Cup are CLUB teams, not a conglomerate of player brought together for a short period of time.

Our game is about Clubs, not "franchises"

and 2 others
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Blew.2 wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Tegal wrote:

I love the idea of ASBP, but it just isn't as gripping as central league or Chatham cup. As Smithy said, the emotion just isn't there. 

10000% this. 

Winter football >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Summer football. Ask a few players who play/have played both and they will tell you the same thing.

Sounds like you want the old National League. But this is The Chatham Cup Thread. Talk cup of go to ASBP thread

Nope. The old national league is exactly what I described above. The ASBP has the potential to move away from and be better than that (as I described above) but it hasn't. Like I said, I love the idea of the ASBP. 

But yep, off topic, sorry. Was just meant as a passing comment.

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ol'sole wrote:

"I love the idea of ASBP, but it just isn't as gripping as central league or Chatham cup. As Smithy said, the emotion just isn't there."

Quite simply, Central League and Chatham Cup are CLUB teams, not a conglomerate of player brought together for a short period of time.

Our game is about Clubs, not "franchises"


I agree a hundred percent.

In saying that, ASBP was a decent idea at the time. So we shouldn't resent it. It is, however, time to move on I reckon.

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Smithy wrote:
ol'sole wrote:

"I love the idea of ASBP, but it just isn't as gripping as central league or Chatham cup. As Smithy said, the emotion just isn't there."

Quite simply, Central League and Chatham Cup are CLUB teams, not a conglomerate of player brought together for a short period of time.

Our game is about Clubs, not "franchises"


I agree a hundred percent.


In saying that, ASBP was a decent idea at the time. So we shouldn't resent it. It is, however, time to move on I reckon.


It is all about the O League these days though
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Smithy wrote:
ol'sole wrote:

"I love the idea of ASBP, but it just isn't as gripping as central league or Chatham cup. As Smithy said, the emotion just isn't there."

Quite simply, Central League and Chatham Cup are CLUB teams, not a conglomerate of player brought together for a short period of time.

Our game is about Clubs, not "franchises"


I agree a hundred percent.


In saying that, ASBP was a decent idea at the time. So we shouldn't resent it. It is, however, time to move on I reckon.


i have never really liked the ASBP but over the last couple of years i have appreciated what it has achieved in the standard of football being played but it has no real connection with clubs and this is what makes football strong in wellington at least.
so maybe if the team was more visual at the club level and played at local grounds (rotate 4 or 5) and trained at some different local grounds so that the kids and upcoming players could see there possible future football options?
just a suggestion to think about...
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Tegal wrote:
Blew.2 wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Tegal wrote:

I love the idea of ASBP, but it just isn't as gripping as central league or Chatham cup. As Smithy said, the emotion just isn't there. 

10000% this. 

Winter football >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Summer football. Ask a few players who play/have played both and they will tell you the same thing.

Sounds like you want the old National League. But this is The Chatham Cup Thread. Talk cup of go to ASBP thread

Nope. The old national league is exactly what I described above. The ASBP has the potential to move away from and be better than that (as I described above) but it hasn't. Like I said, I love the idea of the ASBP. 

But yep, off topic, sorry. Was just meant as a passing comment.

  SEE ASBP thread
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Smithy wrote:
Blew.2 wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Blew.2 wrote:
Feverish wrote:

Sounds like Declan might get a smack on the bum from CF for his outbursts

 Rumour is he cornered ref as he tried to go the the ref's room after game as well.
 


I got a 4 match ban and a $250 fine for giving a ref a serve last season, so you'd expect Deckers to get something similar or worse. Mine was pretty horrific...but I didn't go after the guy post-match...or follow up in the paper :)

I think this will have to set a standard - Is verbal abuse relevant to Physical abuse. Our racial under tones. 

Can't be sorted on the quite - as press will follow this one after their choice of photo 


Declan gets 10 games: http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4205-0-0-0&sID=271078 


Boom. That's him done for the season.

 

Interesting that today's paper says he is banned for rest of season.  I know that with Wests having 10 games in the league left and out of the cup that effectivley is the same thing, but slightly more emotive putting it that way and not mentioning a number.

Disapointed though that it was added as a footnote to a Paul Ifill story.  Would have liked it to have been a headline in its own right.

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Read (and heard) the fine is quite substantial. Indicates they've thrown the book at him. The fact that he carried on afterwards and in the paper may justify it alone but it does make me wonder what he said to the refs exactly.

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ol'sole wrote:

"I love the idea of ASBP, but it just isn't as gripping as central league or Chatham cup. As Smithy said, the emotion just isn't there."

Quite simply, Central League and Chatham Cup are CLUB teams, not a conglomerate of player brought together for a short period of time.

Our game is about Clubs, not "franchises"


Unless your team is Wairarapa.
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TopLeft07 wrote:

Read (and heard) the fine is quite substantial. Indicates they've thrown the book at him. The fact that he carried on afterwards and in the paper may justify it alone but it does make me wonder what he said to the refs exactly.

Suspect we will never know.  Could not hear from the other side of the pitch but there was a fair bit of jumping around and arm waving at the time that looked bad enough.

With stuff reportedly happening after at the dressing rooms, makes me wonder what the other non playing staff or even the players were doing in not dragging him into their room and shutting him up.  Or were they prepared to let him fire their bullets?

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Has anyone noticed that in the ASB Knockout Cup and Chatham Cup, Wharf have had all

five matches  this season drawn at home? Has Feverish arranged for Lew Vincent or Salim

Malik to do the draws?

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I remember a few years ago (2006?) West had all their games at home. It was the year they made the final. so would have been 6 games up until the semi final

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Loftus Road wrote:

Has anyone noticed that in the ASB Knockout Cup and Chatham Cup, Wharf have had all

five matches  this season drawn at home? Has Feverish arranged for Lew Vincent or Salim

Malik to do the draws?

I threatened CF that I would tell the club members to stop behaving badly if we weren't drawn at home and thus they will lose out on the small fortune we pay in fines.
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For those coming to Wakefield for Chatham Cup match on Saturday night, the ABs game will be on live straight after in the clubrooms so grab yourself a Tuatara and settle in. Might as well stay all night for WC games in the morning too!

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Wouldn't be an exciting Chatham Cup without some New Zealand Football drama.

Mangere United fielding ineligible Player against Hamilton Wanderers

http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=11&tx_ttn...

Mangere United have the right to appeal the decision to New Zealand Football.

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Not sure how they can. Its quite clear what rule they have broken.

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Well they have a right to appeal. Whether they will be successful is another question.

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Mangere without their administration in order, well I'll be.....

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Jeff Vader wrote:

Not sure how they can. Its quite clear what rule they have broken.

I agree, but be interested to see if they do. Anyone know if player involved played whole game or was a sub out of interest?

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I think they should just add both teams into the next round and then one gets a bye.  Similar to the 11 team league.

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So the player had to be registered 15 days in advance, but looks like he was registered only 14 days in advance. Ouch. Given that clubs track record though, no sympathy from me.
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And when you throw in Cocaine Mickey on home detention (I heard?) And people want them to run and ASBP team in South Auckland?!?! Get the fuck out....

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to be fair there are only a few people involved with both Mangere and Auckland United - yes there is a connection but it's not as profound as say ACFC and Central. Also Mickey has been relieved of his duties I heard and a player from OMU was appointed coach (this was the week following them beating us) - and i heard the money tree has died so no Ernesto Lopez playing either.
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Interesting to know if NZF/AFF discovered this by themselves or did Hamilton Wanderers do a Papakura City/Bay Olympic and start crying because they lost??

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Mangere do this every year. They should be expelled from future Chatham Cups.

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Third round ASB cup tie postponed

Friday 13 June, 2014

For immediate release


New Zealand Football has postponed the third round ASB Chatham Cup tie between North Shore United AFC and Hamilton Wanderers set for Sunday 15 June.

Hamilton Wanderers were set to play in the third round after an investigation into player eligibility found Mangere United had fielded an ineligible player in their round two penalty shootout victory over the Waikato Bay of Plenty side. The result of the match was overturned and Hamilton given the victory and a place in the third round.

Competitions Manager for New Zealand Football, Chris Kemp says the postponement of the third round fixture was the best course of action given the circumstances.

“With the process still open regarding a possible appeal by Mangere United, we feel that postponing the third round match is in the best interest of all parties involved.”

“Once the process around the protest has officially closed we will proceed appropriately as soon as possible.”

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No surprises, they kind of had to as they would have hated to play the game then have the ruling overturned and forced North Shore to have to play again.

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i would of thought common sense would prevail here and the offending team would either appeal straight away if innocent or state they decline the opportunity to appeal so that no delay would be needed in games.

this just causes other teams in this part of the draw to get squeezed latter in the season to make up the games lost to Chatham cup games played out of sequence to the rest of the draw.

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Rules state they have 7 days to appeal. So they are more than able to use the full 7 days to work out whether they want to appeal.

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is that a rule we have aligned with FIFA? The head of the taxpayers union won't be happy. 

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2ndBest wrote:

Rules state they have 7 days to appeal. So they are more than able to use the full 7 days to work out whether they want to appeal.

the club knows if it was pushing the rules to the limit or not.

if not appeal as you are innocent but if you know you pushed the boundary and got a slap on the hand just take it and move on.

7 days is a long time in football.

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2ndBest wrote:

Rules state they have 7 days to appeal. So they are more than able to use the full 7 days to work out whether they want to appeal.

the club knows if it was pushing the rules to the limit or not.

if not appeal as you are innocent but if you know you pushed the boundary and got a slap on the hand just take it and move on.

7 days is a long time in football.

Know a lot about the alleged rule breach do you? 

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Lower Hutt 1 Miramar 2 (final score)

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