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chopah wrote:

Smithy wrote:

Tegal wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

Tegal wrote:

Club football doesn't mean anything other than "Club Pride" to be fair. 

Much better for player development though...

Isn't that just a matter of who has the best set up? Sounds like some of those Schools in Auckland are quite well resourced. 

 

Partly. 

The biggest issue with school football is that, because there is not freedom of movement between schools like there is clubs, it creates uneven competitions.

Generally, the largest boys' school will dominate because of playing resources. That can be distorted by demographics, scholarships etc.

But if you're at a school that is shark at football but you are quite good, your option to move is quite tough.

If you're at a school that is good at football, but you don't quite make the top squad, again you're a bit f*cked.

The result is that the best players don't play against the best players as often as they do in club comps (where players can move more or less freely).

And that is why school football is mostly recreational. At least to most folks.

it's not quite that simple in Auckland - if like you say your at a crap school then move and play for a good club - vice versa if your at a good school and not getting a look in then play club football instead.

The problems arise when schools (or clubs) try and demand to a player that their patch is greener than everyone else's.

Club and school are almost entirely exclusive here - there would be very few (if any) kids who are playing First Team football and First XI (in the top league) at the same time.

There was another thread that asked what we needed to do to develop better international players, one step would be to make schools play midweek and let them train the boys 3 or 4 times a week on skills and then let them play on the weekends and train a couple of times a week with their club for exposure to high level competition - schools provide the contact time and clubs provide the competition.

Probably will never happen in Auckland but it would make a massive difference.

 

I agree with the midweek thing. But how do you make schools do it? You can't. 

This is the underlying issue. Schools have unbeatable access to players and heavy influence on them. 

NZF and the Federations have practically no leverage to get the schools to do anything at all.

In Wellington at least Capital Football have manoeuvred their competitions to allow players to play for both club and school, and many do.  

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Smithy wrote:

chopah wrote:

Smithy wrote:

Tegal wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

Tegal wrote:

Club football doesn't mean anything other than "Club Pride" to be fair. 

Much better for player development though...

Isn't that just a matter of who has the best set up? Sounds like some of those Schools in Auckland are quite well resourced. 

 

Partly. 

The biggest issue with school football is that, because there is not freedom of movement between schools like there is clubs, it creates uneven competitions.

Generally, the largest boys' school will dominate because of playing resources. That can be distorted by demographics, scholarships etc.

But if you're at a school that is shark at football but you are quite good, your option to move is quite tough.

If you're at a school that is good at football, but you don't quite make the top squad, again you're a bit f*cked.

The result is that the best players don't play against the best players as often as they do in club comps (where players can move more or less freely).

And that is why school football is mostly recreational. At least to most folks.

it's not quite that simple in Auckland - if like you say your at a crap school then move and play for a good club - vice versa if your at a good school and not getting a look in then play club football instead.

The problems arise when schools (or clubs) try and demand to a player that their patch is greener than everyone else's.

Club and school are almost entirely exclusive here - there would be very few (if any) kids who are playing First Team football and First XI (in the top league) at the same time.

There was another thread that asked what we needed to do to develop better international players, one step would be to make schools play midweek and let them train the boys 3 or 4 times a week on skills and then let them play on the weekends and train a couple of times a week with their club for exposure to high level competition - schools provide the contact time and clubs provide the competition.

Probably will never happen in Auckland but it would make a massive difference.

 

I agree with the midweek thing. But how do you make schools do it? You can't. 

This is the underlying issue. Schools have unbeatable access to players and heavy influence on them. 

NZF and the Federations have practically no leverage to get the schools to do anything at all.

In Wellington at least Capital Football have manoeuvred their competitions to allow players to play for both club and school, and many do.  

Thankfully this season in Mainland Federation the Christchurch schools agreed to move their 1st 11 competition from Saturday to Wednesday which has lead to a greater interest in the schools competition with players then free to play for clubs over the weekend. School final at ASB Football Park on Wednesday. First season almost done and the feedback all seems to be positive.

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AllWhites82 wrote:

Smithy wrote:

chopah wrote:

Smithy wrote:

Tegal wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

Tegal wrote:

Club football doesn't mean anything other than "Club Pride" to be fair. 

Much better for player development though...

Isn't that just a matter of who has the best set up? Sounds like some of those Schools in Auckland are quite well resourced. 

 

Partly. 

The biggest issue with school football is that, because there is not freedom of movement between schools like there is clubs, it creates uneven competitions.

Generally, the largest boys' school will dominate because of playing resources. That can be distorted by demographics, scholarships etc.

But if you're at a school that is shark at football but you are quite good, your option to move is quite tough.

If you're at a school that is good at football, but you don't quite make the top squad, again you're a bit f*cked.

The result is that the best players don't play against the best players as often as they do in club comps (where players can move more or less freely).

And that is why school football is mostly recreational. At least to most folks.

it's not quite that simple in Auckland - if like you say your at a crap school then move and play for a good club - vice versa if your at a good school and not getting a look in then play club football instead.

The problems arise when schools (or clubs) try and demand to a player that their patch is greener than everyone else's.

Club and school are almost entirely exclusive here - there would be very few (if any) kids who are playing First Team football and First XI (in the top league) at the same time.

There was another thread that asked what we needed to do to develop better international players, one step would be to make schools play midweek and let them train the boys 3 or 4 times a week on skills and then let them play on the weekends and train a couple of times a week with their club for exposure to high level competition - schools provide the contact time and clubs provide the competition.

Probably will never happen in Auckland but it would make a massive difference.

 

I agree with the midweek thing. But how do you make schools do it? You can't. 

This is the underlying issue. Schools have unbeatable access to players and heavy influence on them. 

NZF and the Federations have practically no leverage to get the schools to do anything at all.

In Wellington at least Capital Football have manoeuvred their competitions to allow players to play for both club and school, and many do.  

Thankfully this season in Mainland Federation the Christchurch schools agreed to move their 1st 11 competition from Saturday to Wednesday which has lead to a greater interest in the schools competition with players then free to play for clubs over the weekend. School final at ASB Football Park on Wednesday. First season almost done and the feedback all seems to be positive.

Would love to see this here in Wellington! Be interesting to see the feedback from Mainland and the schools.

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AllWhites82 wrote:

Smithy wrote:

I agree with the midweek thing. But how do you make schools do it? You can't. 

This is the underlying issue. Schools have unbeatable access to players and heavy influence on them. 

NZF and the Federations have practically no leverage to get the schools to do anything at all.

In Wellington at least Capital Football have manoeuvred their competitions to allow players to play for both club and school, and many do.  

Thankfully this season in Mainland Federation the Christchurch schools agreed to move their 1st 11 competition from Saturday to Wednesday which has lead to a greater interest in the schools competition with players then free to play for clubs over the weekend. School final at ASB Football Park on Wednesday. First season almost done and the feedback all seems to be positive.

Midweek for all school competitions?  Effectively this means that games and pitch requirements could double and that also means there is one less training day for teams. 

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AllWhites82 wrote:

Smithy wrote:

I agree with the midweek thing. But how do you make schools do it? You can't. 

This is the underlying issue. Schools have unbeatable access to players and heavy influence on them. 

NZF and the Federations have practically no leverage to get the schools to do anything at all.

In Wellington at least Capital Football have manoeuvred their competitions to allow players to play for both club and school, and many do.  

Thankfully this season in Mainland Federation the Christchurch schools agreed to move their 1st 11 competition from Saturday to Wednesday which has lead to a greater interest in the schools competition with players then free to play for clubs over the weekend. School final at ASB Football Park on Wednesday. First season almost done and the feedback all seems to be positive.

Midweek for all school competitions?  Effectively this means that games and pitch requirements could double and that also means there is one less training day for teams. 

Maybe midweek games for the top division in each grade, but for all teams I think would be rather naff. 

Fine for those motivated players who could benefit from more games and are able to pay two subs. Don't put more costs on the rest of us thanks.

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No real extra cost for players. The players pay their affiliation fees for clubs so no need to pay twice. The cost for each school was in the region of $1000 I think which split across 20 players in a first XI squad is nothing for 18+ games they get. In the mainland area it has definitely been a success and with the new turfs it has allowed there to be a centre for football with most games being played there throughout the afternoon/evening.
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All positive in Christchurch although we now need to decide whether U18 or possibly PDL is the Saturday priority and make sure it is fixtured and resourced accordingly.

Fantastic result for Nelson College.

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Congratulations to Nelson College. Brilliant win in final. Well done!  

Did feel a bit sorry for HIBS (Wellington Premier Winners and 3rd in Pool) and New Plymouth Boys (Super 8 Winners and 4th in Pool) who unfortunately drew the same Pool (Pool B) as both the Finalists, Nelson College and Sacred Heart. I think they ended up 11th and 10th respectively.

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http://i.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/sport/71797025/Nelson-College-more-than-just-rugby

Interesting read re college football debate.

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Well Done to Nelson College....

Have they benefited from any recent "imports" on Scholarships etc or are they all just local boys ?

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Heard they had their 4 new to school plus a number of refugees, which is a loophole that one can use to bolster sides.

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Sunseeker wrote:

Heard they had their 4 new to school plus a number of refugees, which is a loophole that one can use to bolster sides.

Don't know about refugees, but Nelson College has had a long standing relationship with the Solomon Islands which has resulted in many kids coming over and going to school there and usually ending up playing for the College and Nelson Suburbs.

The fact that a lot of the Nelson College players play in the Nelson Suburbs MPL team will have helped as well

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Heard they were very good in the muddy conditions and were good value for the win

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Sunseeker wrote:

Heard they had their 4 new to school plus a number of refugees, which is a loophole that one can use to bolster sides.

Don't know about refugees, but Nelson College has had a long standing relationship with the Solomon Islands which has resulted in many kids coming over and going to school there and usually ending up playing for the College and Nelson Suburbs.

The fact that a lot of the Nelson College players play in the Nelson Suburbs MPL team will have helped as well

Yes they had 4 refugee boys, and two from the Solomon's (Scholarships), who have been there for 2-3 years. And the three or four who moved to college just gave them more depth. They have been knocking on the door for a couple of years now, but never had that depth. New coach has changed this pretty much. NC coach also the coach of Suburbs, and so 5 of their tournament team were signed for Suburbs in the club season.

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Sunseeker wrote:

Heard they had their 4 new to school plus a number of refugees, which is a loophole that one can use to bolster sides.

This is incorrect. They had 1 new to school player in their squad at nationals, a year 11 playing in midfield.

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Luis Garcia wrote:

Sunseeker wrote:

Heard they had their 4 new to school plus a number of refugees, which is a loophole that one can use to bolster sides.

This is incorrect. They had 1 new to school player in their squad at nationals, a year 11 playing in midfield.

Not quite, there were a handful of boys that moved to NC this year. Its just that only one of them that moved were in the tournament squad. But there were at least two others that were playing First XI in 1st Div if I remember correctly, just weren't selected for Nationals. Its also not a major loophole, (as college found out) when one of their qualifying results (8-0 vs Marlborough) was overturned as they 'played more than two boys new to the school this year'. 

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Tommio wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Sunseeker wrote:

Heard they had their 4 new to school plus a number of refugees, which is a loophole that one can use to bolster sides.

This is incorrect. They had 1 new to school player in their squad at nationals, a year 11 playing in midfield.

Not quite, there were a handful of boys that moved to NC this year. Its just that only one of them that moved were in the tournament squad. But there were at least two others that were playing First XI in 1st Div if I remember correctly, just weren't selected for Nationals. Its also not a major loophole, (as college found out) when one of their qualifying results (8-0 vs Marlborough) was overturned as they 'played more than two boys new to the school this year'. 

Yeah but it's irrelevant how many played for them prior to nationals. Only one was in the squad at the tournament which is what I said.

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[/quote]

Midweek for all school competitions?  Effectively this means that games and pitch requirements could double and that also means there is one less training day for teams. 

Maybe midweek games for the top division in each grade, but for all teams I think would be rather naff. 

Fine for those motivated players who could benefit from more games and are able to pay two subs. Don't put more costs on the rest of us thanks.

[/quote]

Its done on the girls side of things. It has no effect on the number of training days. On the girls side of things most teams train in the mornings before school. It wont cost any more to play midweek, not sure why you think that. 

Our womens national sides appear to be doing better than our mens teams...... funny that...

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Luis Garcia wrote:

Tommio wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Sunseeker wrote:

Heard they had their 4 new to school plus a number of refugees, which is a loophole that one can use to bolster sides.

This is incorrect. They had 1 new to school player in their squad at nationals, a year 11 playing in midfield.

Not quite, there were a handful of boys that moved to NC this year. Its just that only one of them that moved were in the tournament squad. But there were at least two others that were playing First XI in 1st Div if I remember correctly, just weren't selected for Nationals. Its also not a major loophole, (as college found out) when one of their qualifying results (8-0 vs Marlborough) was overturned as they 'played more than two boys new to the school this year'. 

Yeah but it's irrelevant how many played for them prior to nationals. Only one was in the squad at the tournament which is what I said.

If your looking at Nationals on its own then I guess it isn't hugely relevant, but this College side isn't just a tournament team. They play week in week out locally. This makes it fairly relevant as even though only one of these new boys was in the Nationals squad, they have had the option to look at, choose from and play these other new boys all year, giving the side depth and a bigger pool of players. The ones moving schools will have moved for the purpose of playing at Nationals, that is part of NC's pulling power it seems now. Also when these new boys moved schools, it would have given the current players competition and a reason to step up, which I know a number of them have had to do.

Also, in the qualifying games they played some of the other new boys, meaning that in the long run these boys did have an effect on the final Nationals squad/results. So it's pretty relevant.

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AlfStamp wrote:

[/quote]

Midweek for all school competitions?  Effectively this means that games and pitch requirements could double and that also means there is one less training day for teams. 

Maybe midweek games for the top division in each grade, but for all teams I think would be rather naff. 

Fine for those motivated players who could benefit from more games and are able to pay two subs. Don't put more costs on the rest of us thanks.

[/quote]

Its done on the girls side of things. It has no effect on the number of training days. On the girls side of things most teams train in the mornings before school. It wont cost any more to play midweek, not sure why you think that. 

Our womens national sides appear to be doing better than our mens teams...... funny that...

34 teams at Wellington College.

try finding extra pitches for that.

Girls pay club fees and school fees don't they?

As I said fine for the top teams. Sod that for the rest of us.

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Tommio wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Tommio wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Sunseeker wrote:

Heard they had their 4 new to school plus a number of refugees, which is a loophole that one can use to bolster sides.

This is incorrect. They had 1 new to school player in their squad at nationals, a year 11 playing in midfield.

Not quite, there were a handful of boys that moved to NC this year. Its just that only one of them that moved were in the tournament squad. But there were at least two others that were playing First XI in 1st Div if I remember correctly, just weren't selected for Nationals. Its also not a major loophole, (as college found out) when one of their qualifying results (8-0 vs Marlborough) was overturned as they 'played more than two boys new to the school this year'. 

Yeah but it's irrelevant how many played for them prior to nationals. Only one was in the squad at the tournament which is what I said.

If your looking at Nationals on its own then I guess it isn't hugely relevant, but this College side isn't just a tournament team. They play week in week out locally. This makes it fairly relevant as even though only one of these new boys was in the Nationals squad, they have had the option to look at, choose from and play these other new boys all year, giving the side depth and a bigger pool of players. The ones moving schools will have moved for the purpose of playing at Nationals, that is part of NC's pulling power it seems now. Also when these new boys moved schools, it would have given the current players competition and a reason to step up, which I know a number of them have had to do.

Also, in the qualifying games they played some of the other new boys, meaning that in the long run these boys did have an effect on the final Nationals squad/results. So it's pretty relevant.

Yeah but "new to school" rules wouldn't apply at club level. I was just pointing out that at nationals they didn't use four as the previous post said, which would have been against the rules. 

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Yeah but "new to school" rules wouldn't apply at club level. I was just pointing out that at nationals they didn't use four as the previous post said, which would have been against the rules.

Why is 4 against the rules? In Auckland 4 new to school is the number allowed

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The limit is definitely just two right across the country, I think it excludes two overseas players.

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scorpio1 wrote:

Congratulations to Nelson College. Brilliant win in final. Well done!  

Did feel a bit sorry for HIBS (Wellington Premier Winners and 3rd in Pool) and New Plymouth Boys (Super 8 Winners and 4th in Pool) who unfortunately drew the same Pool (Pool B) as both the Finalists, Nelson College and Sacred Heart. I think they ended up 11th and 10th respectively.

Spoken just like a HIBS Dad!!!!!

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Mossimo wrote:

scorpio1 wrote:

Congratulations to Nelson College. Brilliant win in final. Well done!  

Did feel a bit sorry for HIBS (Wellington Premier Winners and 3rd in Pool) and New Plymouth Boys (Super 8 Winners and 4th in Pool) who unfortunately drew the same Pool (Pool B) as both the Finalists, Nelson College and Sacred Heart. I think they ended up 11th and 10th respectively.

Spoken just like a HIBS Dad!!!!!

Or spoken like someone who would actually feel sorry because not very often do the two finalists come out of the same pool?

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Anyone know what happen with Youth Football grades? Grades 1 and 2 just posted now when rest was posted earlier in the week and now it's called premier and Youth 1 changing all the other grade numbers and there is an extra team in Youth 1 causing a bye. Note there is three Wellington College teams listed in top two grades.

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Yakcall wrote:

Anyone know what happen with Youth Football grades? Grades 1 and 2 just posted now when rest was posted earlier in the week and now it's called premier and Youth 1 changing all the other grade numbers and there is an extra team in Youth 1 causing a bye. Note there is three Wellington College teams listed in top two grades.

Just what I heard...Allegedly

In the Youth Pool 2 Grading - Going onto the last game Scots needed to win by about 11-0 v Upper Hutt College to qualify in 3rd place (Original rules were for top 3 to qualify for Premier Youth) . But Upper Hutt defaulted, therby only giving Scots a 2-0 win and condeming them to 4th place in the grading round, relegating them to the next Division down , missing out on the Youth Premier Grade & maybe even missing out on the National Schools Championship Top competition, who knows ?

Thats not fair cried Scots who played their Joker (Dont know if theres anyone on the Scots board with influence at College Sport ?) - anyway, the Premier Comp has been changed to 8 teams instead of 6 - allowing Scots & Rongotai who finished 4th in their respective grading leagues into the top tier.

Interestingly Kapiti finished level on points with Scots but with an inferior goal difference - and they also had a 2-0 default win from Upper Hutt earlier in the season - Maybe if that game was protested like Scots have done Kapiti would have gone through ?

Upper Hutt then lost a playoff v Rathkeale 11-0 , and maybe they've now pulled out completely causing the "bye" in the lower grade .

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Yakcall wrote:

Anyone know what happen with Youth Football grades? Grades 1 and 2 just posted now when rest was posted earlier in the week and now it's called premier and Youth 1 changing all the other grade numbers and there is an extra team in Youth 1 causing a bye. Note there is three Wellington College teams listed in top two grades.

Just what I heard...Allegedly

In the Youth Pool 2 Grading - Going onto the last game Scots needed to win by about 11-0 v Upper Hutt College to qualify in 3rd place (Original rules were for top 3 to qualify for Premier Youth) . But Upper Hutt defaulted, therby only giving Scots a 2-0 win and condeming them to 4th place in the grading round, relegating them to the next Division down , missing out on the Youth Premier Grade & maybe even missing out on the National Schools Championship Top competition, who knows ?

Thats not fair cried Scots who played their Joker (Dont know if theres anyone on the Scots board with influence at College Sport ?) - anyway, the Premier Comp has been changed to 8 teams instead of 6 - allowing Scots & Rongotai who finished 4th in their respective grading leagues into the top tier.

Interestingly Kapiti finished level on points with Scots but with an inferior goal difference - and they also had a 2-0 default win from Upper Hutt earlier in the season - Maybe if that game was protested like Scots have done Kapiti would have gone through ?

Upper Hutt then lost a playoff v Rathleake 11-0 , and maybe they've now pulled out completely causing the "bye" in the lower grade .

Wow thanks for this. I did notice that the grades have gone to 8 teams and the Div 1 has 9 with a bye and thought that was stupid. Then notices Upper Hutt 1XI is no longer there. Though I do note they have a 2XI futher down the grades that will probabely run away with it if it takes the 1XI boys.

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Scot's College's connection with the Phoenix wouldn't have anything to do with this, would it?

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Smithy wrote:

Scot's College's connection with the Phoenix wouldn't have anything to do with this, would it?

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Yakcall wrote:

Smithy wrote:

Scot's College's connection with the Phoenix wouldn't have anything to do with this, would it?

 

You reckon? I mean it's not like the Phoenix have a recent history of trying to manipulate local league rules...oh, wait.

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Smithy wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Smithy wrote:

Scot's College's connection with the Phoenix wouldn't have anything to do with this, would it?

 

You reckon? I mean it's not like the Phoenix have a recent history of trying to manipulate local league rules...oh, wait.

I think it is more likely to be rich mummy and daddy, i'm a lawyer type, that wanted poor Timmy to play the top grade than the Nix interferring.

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Yakcall wrote:

Smithy wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Smithy wrote:

Scot's College's connection with the Phoenix wouldn't have anything to do with this, would it?

 

You reckon? I mean it's not like the Phoenix have a recent history of trying to manipulate local league rules...oh, wait.

I think it is more likely to be rich mummy and daddy, i'm a lawyer type, that wanted poor Timmy to play the top grade than the Nix interferring.

 

I agree that's also a possibility. 

GK
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Tawa vs Wellington boys at college tomorrow. Tastey. 2-1 Tawa i reckon. Common on you bucket trees.

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The real MOTD is St Pat's Stream 2nds vs Wellington High School at Wellington High School. #upstream

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great rivalry that. 

I remember one game playing at college where we were something like 4-0 down against Wellington high at halftime. Our coach gave the greatest hair dryer treatment speech to us at halftime, while the Wellington high guys were all singing and playing the guitar. The line "look at those fudgeing hippies playing the guitar, they're beating you" has remained with me.

We came back in the second half to win the game. 

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Saw this game and heard the half time hairspray and was a fantastic comeback!

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this was 10 or 11 years ago! 

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Great game at Scots today

Scotts needed to win whilst HIBS needed at least a draw to make the finaL. Scotts were 2-0  until few minutues/stoppage time then HIBS scored twice (Waine & Findley) to put HIBS into repeat of last years final v Wellington College.

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Great game at Scots today

Scotts needed to win whilst HIBS needed at least a draw to make the finaL. Scotts were 2-0  until few minutues/stoppage time then HIBS scored twice (Waine & Findley) to put HIBS into repeat of last years final v Wellington College.

 

That is an impressive effort from HIBS. That's a school with about 650 kids from years 7-13 footing it two years in a row with a school of 1700 from years 9-13 (so, two fewer year groups).

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