In my veiw the petone player will be lucky not to get more than 3 wks suspension!!!
For those who weren't there, Petone player tackles Hutt player from behind, hutt player gives a small kick out on the ground, ref blows whistle for Hutt free kick, petone player gets up and shoves Hutt plaer a couple of times, petone player punches Hutt player 3,4 or 5 times, Hutt player then decides to defend himself after holding back and and punches back a few times, everyone then joins in and the two offenders get sent to have an early shower.in my veiw i think the Hutt player did well restraining himself for the time that the petone player w2as just punching him and the ref did nothing (not even blow the whistle) which i found stupid as when the Hutt player decided to defend hismelf he automatically earns a red card for retaliation. the ref did nothing to stop the petone player!!!
Other than that well done to petone, they didn't play the football, they did just hit it long, but most importantly they scored more than Hutt, they defended well and were good at set pieces.
As for hutt, when you have the smallest attack in the league why would you keep on putting the ball in the air to them!!! twhen they did keep it on the ground they looked dangerous.
That is my thoughts, Anyone see it different?? (someone will)
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Park Life tells me that the wrong man got send for the Hutt?
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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No def got the right man, he was the one with blood coming out his nose, shame that, hold back and youre a wimp, fight back and you get sent!!
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As for hutt, when you have the smallest attack in the league why would you keep on putting the ball in the air to them!!! twhen they did keep it on the ground they looked dangerous........................................Why because the coach doesnt have a clue... with the players he has avaliable he is failing.
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I also thought Rooker showed great restrainant in not hitting him back for so long. He had to defend himself in the end.
A dog with a bone :)
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hutt player gives a small kick out on the ground,
Well Sweepa you are clearly a Lower Hutt Supporter, if you get the chance get the Petone Player to show you the sprig marks from the so called small kick out onthe ground.
It is clearly more than that and maybe you need to get someone else to comment on the incident.
Good result for Petone though as they certainly play as a team and not individuals.
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As i said big ears that is what i saw, and i invited someone elses coment. lets hear your take?? please explain to me why the petone player attacked the Hutt player, you havnt said what you saw yet!!! But that is what i saw!!
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Hi all
I was about 10 metres from the incident and there is no doubt Rooker connected with the Petone player with a petulant kick after the tackle. Unfortunetly he kicked the wrong person as the events after demonstrated. Rooker got hammered allright!
I am a Petone supporter so you might say I am biased but they both deserved to be sent. Rooker riased his hands in an attempt to either fight back or defend himself either way he wasn't quick enough. I don't for one one minute excuse the actions of the Petone player and he deserves the mandatory 2 week suspension the voilent conduct gives. Frankly he probably should skate for more.
I take more expection from you comment about Petone not playing football, I think the three years playing in Champs Premier set them up well to handle the middle of the park Derby intensity and it was not until Hutt went wide and stretched them did they get on top in the final 25 mins. Petone played some nice football at times and defended well, they also settled better after the incident.
It was no doubt a return to the former glory of Petone v Lower Hutt Derbys and the game lived up to it. Pity about the fight! Big ears your right Petone played as a team versus there more fancied opposition
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Without seeign the incident it's difficult to comment but in my opinion anyone throwing punches on a football field deserves to have the book thrown at them. Never excusable, no matter what the situation, even if there was/may have been a petulant kick from the player on the ground. 3 weeks a minimum for both players.
Normo's coming home
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I missd the incident but those things happen occasionally in football. If you know the Petone player you'll know he would have needed some serious provocation to do what he did. I believe the L Hutt player has a bit of a history of such events. I'll let you make your own analysis.
On the game, I actually though L Hutt played too much "hit-and-hope" long ball from the back. Can Patterson actually play a 5 yard pass. As mentioned, wiith a strke force averaging 4 foot nothing, why would you do that. Petone played to their strenghts and deserved the points.
They're looking like a top four team based on that game. Good luck Petone.
Toffeeman2008-05-04 08:36:02Its no longer a problem.
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I agree with you toffeeman on the fact that petone deserved the points as they played to their strengths and hutt certainly did not, on the other part though I would say i do know the petone player fairly well having played with him for 2 or 3 years, and in my veiw it does not take alot to get him to react. as for the hutt player i cant say i know him and as you heard from someone else he done well not to hold back the fighting for a bit. What im annoyed at is that the ref had a chance to stop the petone player but did not, so th hutt player had to defend/fight back and got a red accordingly, the ref did not do a adequate job in this situation. I dont believe he should have put himself in harms way but he just stood there, didnt blow his whistle or anything. that is poor reffing,
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these things happen occassionally - just accept ya suspensions and get over it.
Founder
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from where i was standing both players were involved in a fair strong tackle, both were on the ground, the hutt striker lashed out with his boot, the petone player stood up to him faced up a few pushes were exchanged, the hutt player tried to hit him and then left jabs by petone player, a few misses from hutt player and then bang right hook from petone, good night nurse. blood all over hutt boy went down and then everyone came in and broke it up. an ugly incident, but these things do happen in sport. it was one v one and both deserved reds the hutt guy started it the petone guy finished it!! he picked the wrong guy to mess with!! both guys i know and they are not dirty, malicious players. a one off incident.
on the feild petone had more hunger and play for each other while hutt have to many primadonnas and though played some nice stuff in the 2nd half didnt have enough in attack to break the petone defence down.
bring on rd 2 at memorial
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Should be a good 2nd round game thats for sure.
Just one question.... will they blow the whistle or will it be ding ding goes the bell for the start of round 2??
sweepa2008-05-04 14:40:35
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I dont believe he should have put himself in harms way but he just stood there, didnt blow his whistle or anything. that is poor reffing,
100% nonsense
Why on earth should the ref get involved - other than blow his whistle. He's just as likely to get lamped as the players if he gets himself involved.
Really it's done to the size, stature and personality of the ref if he wants to get involved - but there is certainly no obligation on the ref to get in there and pull them apart.
Easiest approach is the ice-hockey way, if it's 1v1 let them to and then send the pair of them if they've both thrown punches - the people criticising the ref are the ones support the L/Hutt player for restraining himself for so long. Why didn't the Petone captain pull his player away?, why didn't the L/Hutt player not just walk away.
Easy to criticise the ref, but perhaps a few questions have to be asked of the players and teams involved.
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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According to Captal Football the ref was Jim Murphy. He's one of the most experienced refs around. But what are players thinking of having stand up fist fights in the Central League? This is supposed to be the shop window for winter football, now 2 weeks in a row players and management have seen the red mist come down. All in front of ballkids, ballkids parents, sundry spectators too. Disappointing stuff and it needs to be knocked the head otherwise we are no better than rugby or league.
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I dont believe he should have put himself in harms way but he just stood there, didnt blow his whistle or anything. that is poor reffing,
100% nonsense
Why on earth should the ref get involved - other than blow his whistle. He's just as likely to get lamped as the players if he gets himself involved.
As i said , he SHOULDNT PUT HIMSELF IN HARMS WAY, but he just didnt do anything, not even blow his whistle. most of the time if you blow your whistle it is enough to stop players but he just didnt do what i consider a simple thing. don't get me wrong i don't blame him, if two guys are gonna fight then they are gonna fight.
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these things happen occassionally - just accept ya suspensions and get over it.
Hahaha rich...
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According to Captal Football the ref was Jim Murphy. He's one of the most experienced refs around. But what are players thinking of having stand up fist fights in the Central League? This is supposed to be the shop window for winter football, now 2 weeks in a row players and management have seen the red mist come down. All in front of ballkids, ballkids parents, sundry spectators too. Disappointing stuff and it needs to be knocked the head otherwise we are no better than rugby or league.
C'mon everyone loves a bit of bif. Who was the Petone Mike Tyson then?
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Come on sweepa...if the ref blew his whistle they'd just stop and walk off?? That's buck passing at its finest. Unbelievable you can attempt to blame the ref in this situation.james dean2008-05-04 23:27:44
Normo's coming home
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Spot on, JD. It's not the ref's fault they started scrapping. Not a lot that a ref can do in those circumstances, really.
I remember in one of my last games in Welly (featuring a certain K Thompson) there was a spectacular punch-up between two young 'uns which started out of nothing. Ended up sending 3 off, and they were the only cards in the game!
Just got to wait till it settles down then start waving cards around.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Lower Hutt v Petone, the clubs and the players need to have a bloody good look at themselves, it fine to have good competive local derby's/ club rivalary, but when these two play it goes beyond that, the last time these two meet in a league game was probably the game under lights at Petone about 3 years ago, same crap that time Whitmarsh stomped on a players and hand and was sent off, Pedro may have gone as well. Bit of crap after the game finished as well. It was reported that Petone had a club offical sent last week for entering the field of play after a little set to. Come on guys tidy your act up and play the game.
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