Higher Divisons Getting Priority
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So, going back to the original point, if everyone is expecting 18 games, it seems strange that some league have played 11 and others only 9.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=el grapadura]That's one of the perks of playing in the top 5 divisions.
Shouldn't matter what div you play in we all pay the same fees to cap football
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So, going back to the original point, if everyone is expecting 18 games, it seems strange that some league have played 11 and others only 9.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=el grapadura]That's one of the perks of playing in the top 5 divisions.
Shouldn't matter what div you play in we all pay the same fees to cap football
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I am sure that some in the highest grades don't pay any fees themselves and are possibly subsidised by those in the lower grades.
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top grades have playoff matches that need to be played - so those ones need to complete their season
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top grades have playoff matches that need to be played - so those ones need to complete their season
or the planet will spin off its axis and damage the universe!!!
I can appreciate that play off games etc need to be played but if 1 complete round in Cap 13 in 2008 was good enough for teams to be promoted & relegated why isn't it good enough for Cap 1 etc ??????
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There's a slight difference in promotion/relegation for social teams, and for clubs' first teams and reserves.
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There's a slight difference in promotion/relegation for social teams, and for clubs' first teams and reserves.
WHY???
because players are subsidised?
I have only played against 2 'social' teams in 4 years all the others have been pretty serious about playing to win. They enjoy the aftermatch as the social side of it. I know of a couple of 'social' teams that practice weekly during the summer and because they have no lights train next to a hockey turf during the winter serious enough?
nzyido2009-06-16 07:45:53
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top grades have playoff matches that need to be played - so those ones need to complete their season
why to the top five divs need to complete all 18 games? They have no more reason to see there season completed than I do. As mentioned by someone earlier we all pay our fees, so why the disparity?
Its annoying that there is apparently yet another blockage in the way of the "social" grades having a complete season! What else annoys me is that the rugby lads very rarely seem to get canceled. I saw a huge number of rugby games in play this weekend, I would have thought the council would be a bit more worried about the damage they do to the grounds.
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top grades have playoff matches that need to be played - so those ones need to complete their season
why to the top five divs need to complete all 18 games? They have no more reason to see there season completed than I do. As mentioned by someone earlier we all pay our fees, so why the disparity?
Its annoying that there is apparently yet another blockage in the way of the "social" grades having a complete season! What else annoys me is that the rugby lads very rarely seem to get canceled. I saw a huge number of rugby games in play this weekend, I would have thought the council would be a bit more worried about the damage they do to the grounds.
According to WRFU website 5 senior games cancelled last weekend affecting approx 200 people
48 senior football games cancelled affecting approx 1440 people. BIG difference
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top grades have playoff matches that need to be played - so those ones need to complete their season
or the planet will spin off its axis and damage the universe!!!
I can appreciate that play off games etc need to be played but if 1 complete round in Cap 13 in 2008 was good enough for teams to be promoted & relegated why isn't it good enough for Cap 1 etc ??????
Yeah, you go nzyido, you're on the money.
And what's more, why do the referees always referee the top grades and not the lower ones? And they always have the good pitches.
There should be a rotation system so that every team gets three refs sometime in every grade and they get to play on the good grounds too.
It's not like teams in the lower grades aren't good or anything. I mean they could probably play central league if they wanted to they just prefer not to.
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You've got to be kidding me that lower graded teams are good enough to play central league. There are some decent players in the lower grades but no way are there any teams that are anywhere near that good.
The problem with refs is there aren't that many of them. You can't expect grades like Cap 1 and Cap 2 not to have refs. And that is what would have to happen for the lower graded teams to get refs.
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top grades have playoff matches that need to be played - so those ones need to complete their season
or the planet will spin off its axis and damage the universe!!!
I can appreciate that play off games etc need to be played but if 1 complete round in Cap 13 in 2008 was good enough for teams to be promoted & relegated why isn't it good enough for Cap 1 etc ??????
Yeah, you go nzyido, you're on the money.
And what's more, why do the referees always referee the top grades and not the lower ones? And they always have the good pitches.
There should be a rotation system so that every team gets three refs sometime in every grade and they get to play on the good grounds too.
It's not like teams in the lower grades aren't good or anything. I mean they could probably play central league if they wanted to they just prefer not to.
It is also crap here in the UK where the top clubs get to play at the decent stadiums too. They should rotate that so pub players all get their chance to play at Old Trafford.
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You've got to be kidding me that lower graded teams are good enough to play central league. There are some decent players in the lower grades but no way are there any teams that are anywhere near that good.
The problem with refs is there aren't that many of them. You can't expect grades like Cap 1 and Cap 2 not to have refs. And that is what would have to happen for the lower graded teams to get refs.
Why not? We all pay the same to Capital Football?
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top grades have playoff matches that need to be played - so those ones need to complete their season
or the planet will spin off its axis and damage the universe!!!
I can appreciate that play off games etc need to be played but if 1 complete round in Cap 13 in 2008 was good enough for teams to be promoted & relegated why isn't it good enough for Cap 1 etc ??????
Yeah, you go nzyido, you're on the money.
And what's more, why do the referees always referee the top grades and not the lower ones? And they always have the good pitches.
There should be a rotation system so that every team gets three refs sometime in every grade and they get to play on the good grounds too.
It's not like teams in the lower grades aren't good or anything. I mean they could probably play central league if they wanted to they just prefer not to.
It is also crap here in the UK where the top clubs get to play at the decent stadiums too. They should rotate that so pub players all get their chance to play at Old Trafford.
Yeah exactly. And you know what makes it worse? Pub players PAY to play but the big boys GET PAID, AND they get the good stadiums. Surely the people who pay the money should get the good facilities.
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Being a 'lower grade' player I only have issue with the value I get. I am happy paying my current subs with the expectation of a season of football.
I do get irked hearing about players in higher grades getting subsidised and on top of that getting preferential treatment when it comes to ground closures. At the end of the season they have paid less (some clubs might not subsidies top players) and played more. I don't get any benefit from this personally and I see just about most grades being social on some scale. I do however think the top 2 (maybe 3) levels should be giving preferential treatment to help with the development of the very very top talent
I do get irked hearing about players in higher grades getting subsidised and on top of that getting preferential treatment when it comes to ground closures. At the end of the season they have paid less (some clubs might not subsidies top players) and played more. I don't get any benefit from this personally and I see just about most grades being social on some scale. I do however think the top 2 (maybe 3) levels should be giving preferential treatment to help with the development of the very very top talent
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its a clubs choice that the players in the top grades get subsidised though, nothing to do with Capital Football so seems pretty unrelated to this argument.
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Clubs pay for the refs separately on a game by game basis
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its a clubs choice that the players in the top grades get subsidised though, nothing to do with Capital Football so seems pretty unrelated to this argument.
That is true, just adds to my level of frustration
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i have some sympathy for the lower grades, and I would expect that CF would not simply draw a line below which all games are cancelled on any wet weekend. Rather, i would expect them to take into account how many games, for instance, div 13 might have missed c/w div 4, when making cancellation decisions.
however, you also have to remember that, on balance, as you move from the top grades downwards, players and teams are less likely to train, less likely to be highly motivated etc. The seasons of the higher grade sides simply have more value to clubs and players, on the whole. I think that is a relevant consideration. Albeit, things blur pretty quickly once you get below about div 2 or 3 - ie nobody trains.
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i have some sympathy for the lower grades, and I would expect that CF would not simply draw a line below which all games are cancelled on any wet weekend. Rather, i would expect them to take into account how many games, for instance, div 13 might have missed c/w div 4, when making cancellation decisions.
isn't that exactly what CF do? weren't masters 1 and 4 cancelled last weekend but 2 and 3 played?
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And what's more, why do the referees always referee the top grades and not the lower ones? And they always have the good pitches.
There should be a rotation system so that every team gets three refs sometime in every grade and they get to play on the good grounds too.
We dont want referees in the lower grades. From what we hear they are all rubbish and will only ruin our games.
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top grades have playoff matches that need to be played - so those ones need to complete their season
why to the top five divs need to complete all 18 games? They have no more reason to see there season completed than I do. As mentioned by someone earlier we all pay our fees, so why the disparity?
Its annoying that there is apparently yet another blockage in the way of the "social" grades having a complete season! What else annoys me is that the rugby lads very rarely seem to get canceled. I saw a huge number of rugby games in play this weekend, I would have thought the council would be a bit more worried about the damage they do to the grounds.
According to WRFU website 5 senior games cancelled last weekend affecting approx 200 people
48 senior football games cancelled affecting approx 1440 people. BIG difference
That's was kinda my point!
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I have no probs with Central League, Cap Prem and maybe Div 1 having first say.
However, Im concerned if the approach is that lower grades are just 'social' so it doesnt matter if they miss out.
I guess we will find out this weekend exactly what CF's strategy is.
As I posted earlier, here is a summary of the number of games completed by Division...
1 11/18
2 11/18
3 11/18
4 11/18
5 11/18
6 9/14
7 10/14
8 10/14
9 9/14
10 9/14
11 9/14
12 10/14
13 9/14
14 9/14
15 9/14
16 10/13
Masters 1 9/14
Masters 2 11/18
Masters 3 10/14
Masters 4 9/14
By rights, it would seem that Divs 1,2,3,4, 5, 7,8, 12,16 and Master 2 and 3 will miss out when it rains.
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unlikely that theyd cancel div 1? isn't that central league? or is that capital 1? in which case they still won't cancel it because quite a few (very sh*t) clubs first teams are in that league.
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unlikely that theyd cancel div 1?� isn't that central league?� or is that capital 1?� in which case they still won't cancel it because quite a few (very sh*t) clubs first teams are in that league.
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He means Capital 1.
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We dont want referees in the lower grades. From what we hear they are all rubbish and will only ruin our games.
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Soundz like "hearsay" don't you think?
pizda2009-06-17 12:35:40
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also I note alot of people complain about players being subsidised, don't forget the club subsidises that, and the clubs are the ones that pay CF, they all pay the same amount...
maybe it will inspire some good talent in the lower grades to aim for higher teams?
maybe it will inspire some good talent in the lower grades to aim for higher teams?
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also I note alot of people complain about players being subsidised, don't forget the club subsidises that, and the clubs are the ones that pay CF, they all pay the same amount...
maybe it will inspire some good talent in the lower grades to aim for higher teams?
maybe it will inspire some good talent in the lower grades to aim for higher teams?
The clubs subsidise higher grade players by charging lower grade players more fees!!
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