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about 12 years ago
Global Game wrote:

Depending on how many reserve grade entries there are, there might be the possibility of an MPL v PDL game each week. So which clubs are entering PDL teams? I heard of one club wanting to enter two ( but think one was really a Sunday women's quality side).

If a bye in PDL also then would be logical to have a WPL / PDL game each week.

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about 12 years ago

Hang on, that sounds far too sensible :)

I wonder how Mainland will handle this one given their recent edict on 14/15 year olds playing PDL? They really are making a hash of things considering not too long ago there were several girls in that age group playing WMPL. When did the rule change where all clubs had to do was get written permission from their parents and approval from the club to play WMPL let alone PDL? And surely any confusion over the rule change as mentioned in the letter below, recently (13/03 - 3 weeks before the season starts) sent out to clubs, comes from them as they changed the rule without consultation with any club that I am aware of -

Hi all,

I understand there may still be some confusion over the age dispensation for female players registering for the senior leagues. Please find the following bullet points which should hopefully clarify the rules around dispensation.  

·If a player is currently 13 turning 14 some time this year - please do not apply

·If a player is currently 14, and turning 15 this year, applications will be considered on a case by case basis using the following criteria;

-The player is a high performing established NTC player

-The player is of exceptional physical maturity and ability

All applications are considered and signed off by myself and the Federation Development Manager Alan Walker.

Here are two examples of dispensation requests and their outcomes for your reference;

1.Player born 8th April 1999 – applied for dispensation: This was denied as she is not involved in NTCs or known to show exceptional physical ability. However, as soon as she turns 15 she is eligible to play in the senior women’s leagues.

2.Player born 3rd June 1999 – applied for dispensation: Application was accepted as this player is exceptionally talented, recognised by NZF through her regular attendance at NTCs.

I hope this clarifies the dispensation rules. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

Kind regards

Emily


What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Hang on, that sounds far too sensible :)

I wonder how Mainland will handle this one given their recent edict on 14/15 year olds playing PDL? They really are making a hash of things considering not too long ago there were several girls in that age group playing WMPL. When did the rule change where all clubs had to do was get written permission from their parents and approval from the club to play WMPL let alone PDL? And surely any confusion over the rule change as mentioned in the letter below, recently (13/03 - 3 weeks before the season starts) sent out to clubs, comes from them as they changed the rule without consultation with any club that I am aware of -

Hi all,

I understand there may still be some confusion over the age dispensation for female players registering for the senior leagues. Please find the following bullet points which should hopefully clarify the rules around dispensation.  

·If a player is currently 13 turning 14 some time this year - please do not apply

·If a player is currently 14, and turning 15 this year, applications will be considered on a case by case basis using the following criteria;

-The player is a high performing established NTC player

-The player is of exceptional physical maturity and ability

All applications are considered and signed off by myself and the Federation Development Manager Alan Walker.

Here are two examples of dispensation requests and their outcomes for your reference;

1.Player born 8th April 1999 – applied for dispensation: This was denied as she is not involved in NTCs or known to show exceptional physical ability. However, as soon as she turns 15 she is eligible to play in the senior women’s leagues.

2.Player born 3rd June 1999 – applied for dispensation: Application was accepted as this player is exceptionally talented, recognised by NZF through her regular attendance at NTCs.

I hope this clarifies the dispensation rules. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

Kind regards

Emily


Recently?? 13/3 is today!  Nice surprise to welcome you home after training. Really?

Thats the standard form that is stamped without question for a number of years now on clubs recommendation and parents approval. Whats changed and why? Surely there are more able 14 year old that can foot it with your run of the mill 15 year old than the 2 or 3 that are NTC participants? Obscure.

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about 12 years ago

In principle I've no problem with the rule, but those with a greater knowledge on these matters could well argue strongly for or against I suppose. I feel for the people in clubs trying to sort numbers and eligibility for teams just weeks out from season start.
My beef is the consultation (or apparent lack of) and method of communication on yet another issue. AGAIN. It's hard to not think this is symptomatic of a certain culture within the fed I'm afraid; or certainly dysfunctional relationship between the fed and the clubs. In any other organisation you might get an external consultant in to bang some heads. This directive usually comes from CEO or the Board. Maybe the shareholders need to voice their concerns if CEO or board don't perceive a problem?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 12 years ago

Plenty of gossip on the Clearances. A few that caught my eye in the first quick scan:

Exodus of a crop of FC20 players to Nomads - Avery Addei, Rhys Lasorsa, Ollie Moot among them - interesting becasue they are long time players under new FC20 first team coach Glen Lapslie. The lure of MPL football, eh?
Universiteis look to have been very active (no surprise there).
Waimak and Selwyn both gaining plenty of players (wonder how much EQ or Burnley Academy related?)
A few ASB/youth players switching clubs: Ash Wellbourn to Cashmere, Conor Lidstone to Halswell, Renta Yamamoto to Bays, Andrew Storer to Coastal, Jackson Brady back to Coastal, Josh Lis from Nelson to Coastal.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
Global Game wrote:

Well that's a surprise. So Western and Halswell have both found some players?


 

Great news this, especially for Halswell in their 50th season. Halswell had the first ever women's team in Christchurch back in 1970's, and may be the first in NZ as well.

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about 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Hang on, that sounds far too sensible :)

I wonder how Mainland will handle this one given their recent edict on 14/15 year olds playing PDL? They really are making a hash of things considering not too long ago there were several girls in that age group playing WMPL. When did the rule change where all clubs had to do was get written permission from their parents and approval from the club to play WMPL let alone PDL? And surely any confusion over the rule change as mentioned in the letter below, recently (13/03 - 3 weeks before the season starts) sent out to clubs, comes from them as they changed the rule without consultation with any club that I am aware of -

Hi all,

I understand there may still be some confusion over the age dispensation for female players registering for the senior leagues. Please find the following bullet points which should hopefully clarify the rules around dispensation.  

·If a player is currently 13 turning 14 some time this year - please do not apply

·If a player is currently 14, and turning 15 this year, applications will be considered on a case by case basis using the following criteria;

-The player is a high performing established NTC player

-The player is of exceptional physical maturity and ability

All applications are considered and signed off by myself and the Federation Development Manager Alan Walker.

Here are two examples of dispensation requests and their outcomes for your reference;

1.Player born 8th April 1999 – applied for dispensation: This was denied as she is not involved in NTCs or known to show exceptional physical ability. However, as soon as she turns 15 she is eligible to play in the senior women’s leagues.

2.Player born 3rd June 1999 – applied for dispensation: Application was accepted as this player is exceptionally talented, recognised by NZF through her regular attendance at NTCs.

I hope this clarifies the dispensation rules. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

Kind regards

Emily


So player No.1 who turns 15 during the week after the first game can not play WPDLin the first game but can play WPL the next week!!!

 If you are not paying the exorbident FTC / NTC fees you can not, if you are you can!! 

It is getting better all the time!!!

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about 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Hang on, that sounds far too sensible :)

I wonder how Mainland will handle this one given their recent edict on 14/15 year olds playing PDL? They really are making a hash of things considering not too long ago there were several girls in that age group playing WMPL. When did the rule change where all clubs had to do was get written permission from their parents and approval from the club to play WMPL let alone PDL? And surely any confusion over the rule change as mentioned in the letter below, recently (13/03 - 3 weeks before the season starts) sent out to clubs, comes from them as they changed the rule without consultation with any club that I am aware of -

Hi all,

I understand there may still be some confusion over the age dispensation for female players registering for the senior leagues. Please find the following bullet points which should hopefully clarify the rules around dispensation.  

·If a player is currently 13 turning 14 some time this year - please do not apply

·If a player is currently 14, and turning 15 this year, applications will be considered on a case by case basis using the following criteria;

-The player is a high performing established NTC player

-The player is of exceptional physical maturity and ability

All applications are considered and signed off by myself and the Federation Development Manager Alan Walker.

Here are two examples of dispensation requests and their outcomes for your reference;

1.Player born 8th April 1999 – applied for dispensation: This was denied as she is not involved in NTCs or known to show exceptional physical ability. However, as soon as she turns 15 she is eligible to play in the senior women’s leagues.

2.Player born 3rd June 1999 – applied for dispensation: Application was accepted as this player is exceptionally talented, recognised by NZF through her regular attendance at NTCs.

I hope this clarifies the dispensation rules. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

Kind regards

Emily


So player No.1 who turns 15 during the week after the first game can not play WPDLin the first game but can play WPL the next week!!!

 If you are not paying the exorbident FTC / NTC fees you can not, if you are you can!! 

It is getting better all the time!!!

yip! Gotta be paying the right people to play! Almost sounds like a bribe?? Just because a player is not in NTC doesn't mean they can't play at that level and if they not in FTC then how do mainland know whether they could or not?? Surely the clubs who have the players best interests at heart, know them the best. They are the ones seeing them train week in week out. 
Does this apply to males too? Last year mainland signed them all off no problem. Is it going to be different this year?
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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
AllWhites82 wrote:
Global Game wrote:

Well that's a surprise. So Western and Halswell have both found some players?


 

Great news this, especially for Halswell in their 50th season. Halswell had the first ever women's team in Christchurch back in 1970's, and may be the first in NZ as well.



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about 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Hang on, that sounds far too sensible :)

I wonder how Mainland will handle this one given their recent edict on 14/15 year olds playing PDL? They really are making a hash of things considering not too long ago there were several girls in that age group playing WMPL. When did the rule change where all clubs had to do was get written permission from their parents and approval from the club to play WMPL let alone PDL? And surely any confusion over the rule change as mentioned in the letter below, recently (13/03 - 3 weeks before the season starts) sent out to clubs, comes from them as they changed the rule without consultation with any club that I am aware of -

Hi all,

I understand there may still be some confusion over the age dispensation for female players registering for the senior leagues. Please find the following bullet points which should hopefully clarify the rules around dispensation.  

·If a player is currently 13 turning 14 some time this year - please do not apply

·If a player is currently 14, and turning 15 this year, applications will be considered on a case by case basis using the following criteria;

-The player is a high performing established NTC player

-The player is of exceptional physical maturity and ability

All applications are considered and signed off by myself and the Federation Development Manager Alan Walker.

Here are two examples of dispensation requests and their outcomes for your reference;

1.Player born 8th April 1999 – applied for dispensation: This was denied as she is not involved in NTCs or known to show exceptional physical ability. However, as soon as she turns 15 she is eligible to play in the senior women’s leagues.

2.Player born 3rd June 1999 – applied for dispensation: Application was accepted as this player is exceptionally talented, recognised by NZF through her regular attendance at NTCs.

I hope this clarifies the dispensation rules. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

Kind regards

Emily


So player No.1 who turns 15 during the week after the first game can not play WPDLin the first game but can play WPL the next week!!!

 If you are not paying the exorbident FTC / NTC fees you can not, if you are you can!! 

It is getting better all the time!!!

yip! Gotta be paying the right people to play! Almost sounds like a bribe?? Just because a player is not in NTC doesn't mean they can't play at that level and if they not in FTC then how do mainland know whether they could or not?? Surely the clubs who have the players best interests at heart, know them the best. They are the ones seeing them train week in week out. 

Does this apply to males too? Last year mainland signed them all off no problem. Is it going to be different this year?


Yes, hence the need for all trials to be an open process. (No pre-selection)
Clubs should have the players best interests at heart, but also self-interest as well. Selection or selection criteria is a 2 way street. 
I don't think it is unreasonable for any Governing Body to have rules around juniors playing in senior competitions however. Maybe it's the way it was addressed that is the issue (again)?

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Hang on, that sounds far too sensible :)

I wonder how Mainland will handle this one given their recent edict on 14/15 year olds playing PDL? They really are making a hash of things considering not too long ago there were several girls in that age group playing WMPL. When did the rule change where all clubs had to do was get written permission from their parents and approval from the club to play WMPL let alone PDL? And surely any confusion over the rule change as mentioned in the letter below, recently (13/03 - 3 weeks before the season starts) sent out to clubs, comes from them as they changed the rule without consultation with any club that I am aware of -

Hi all,

I understand there may still be some confusion over the age dispensation for female players registering for the senior leagues. Please find the following bullet points which should hopefully clarify the rules around dispensation.  

·If a player is currently 13 turning 14 some time this year - please do not apply

·If a player is currently 14, and turning 15 this year, applications will be considered on a case by case basis using the following criteria;

-The player is a high performing established NTC player

-The player is of exceptional physical maturity and ability

All applications are considered and signed off by myself and the Federation Development Manager Alan Walker.

Here are two examples of dispensation requests and their outcomes for your reference;

1.Player born 8th April 1999 – applied for dispensation: This was denied as she is not involved in NTCs or known to show exceptional physical ability. However, as soon as she turns 15 she is eligible to play in the senior women’s leagues.

2.Player born 3rd June 1999 – applied for dispensation: Application was accepted as this player is exceptionally talented, recognised by NZF through her regular attendance at NTCs.

I hope this clarifies the dispensation rules. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

Kind regards

Emily


So player No.1 who turns 15 during the week after the first game can not play WPDLin the first game but can play WPL the next week!!!

 If you are not paying the exorbident FTC / NTC fees you can not, if you are you can!! 

It is getting better all the time!!!

yip! Gotta be paying the right people to play! Almost sounds like a bribe?? Just because a player is not in NTC doesn't mean they can't play at that level and if they not in FTC then how do mainland know whether they could or not?? Surely the clubs who have the players best interests at heart, know them the best. They are the ones seeing them train week in week out. 

Does this apply to males too? Last year mainland signed them all off no problem. Is it going to be different this year?

Fat chance clubs are going to wear that 3 weeks out from season start. Most would have had their teams in place and training for a month or so now. As you say, how can anyone but the club make a judgement on (suit)ability?  They moment anyone turns 15 makes them perfectly ok for senior women irrespective if they can kick a ball or not. Any younger they can decide on that simply by date of birth and what? They only know the players that are paying them instead of other providers, be it club coaches or acqdemies. How arrogant and stupid all at the same time. 

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about 12 years ago

10CC

Juniors playing in Senior comps has been used in other codes with varying degrees of success. 

Is the pressure on Mainland to come up with this decision player led? Seniors saying we don't want to play 12-13-14 year olds? 


E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 12 years ago
foal30 wrote:

10CC

Juniors playing in Senior comps has been used in other codes with varying degrees of success. 

Is the pressure on Mainland to come up with this decision player led? Seniors saying we don't want to play 12-13-14 year olds? 


You mean old tarts not wanting to be shown up by younger, better skilled and more agile girls? Had't thought of that!
I'd say no.  Few will argue about 13 and younger, but many 14 year old girls are significantly better than women twice their age and playing WPL.
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about 12 years ago

Wasn't there a 14yo part of the pride squad this season past?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 12 years ago
Global Game wrote:

Wasn't there a 14yo part of the pride squad this season past?


Yep. Briar. The #2 goalkeeper I think.

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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about 12 years ago
10cc wrote:
foal30 wrote:

10CC

Juniors playing in Senior comps has been used in other codes with varying degrees of success. 

Is the pressure on Mainland to come up with this decision player led? Seniors saying we don't want to play 12-13-14 year olds? 


You mean old tarts not wanting to be shown up by younger, better skilled and more agile girls? Had't thought of that!

I'd say no.  Few will argue about 13 and younger, but many 14 year old girls are significantly better than women twice their age and playing WPL.


I'm not saying that is the issue but Seniors do have a right to actually enter a competion playing other Seniors.
Whether this applies to WPL level (assuming this the best football the federation can supply) would need clarification if it can be showen the "best" players are in fact still eligible for juniors. 


E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 12 years ago
foal30 wrote:
10cc wrote:
foal30 wrote:

10CC

Juniors playing in Senior comps has been used in other codes with varying degrees of success. 

Is the pressure on Mainland to come up with this decision player led? Seniors saying we don't want to play 12-13-14 year olds? 


You mean old tarts not wanting to be shown up by younger, better skilled and more agile girls? Had't thought of that!

I'd say no.  Few will argue about 13 and younger, but many 14 year old girls are significantly better than women twice their age and playing WPL.


I'm not saying that is the issue but Seniors do have a right to actually enter a competion playing other Seniors.

Whether this applies to WPL level (assuming this the best football the federation can supply) would need clarification if it can be showen the "best" players are in fact still eligible for juniors. 

All centred around player safety. Since when is age deciding factor on being good enough? 
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about 12 years ago

Anyone know today's MPL pre-season scores?

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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about 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Anyone know today's MPL pre-season scores?

Coastal beat Nomads 2-0. Bays drew 1-1 with Halswell and Western beat Tech 1-0.

I let my guitar speak for me

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about 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Anyone know today's MPL pre-season scores?

Coastal beat Nomads 2-0. Bays drew 1-1 with Halswell and Western beat Tech 1-0.

Ah, Vim, Vim nice but dim, cheers mate :)
So Western take out the title?
Very close scores, predictions for the season anyone?

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
10cc wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Hang on, that sounds far too sensible :)

I wonder how Mainland will handle this one given their recent edict on 14/15 year olds playing PDL? They really are making a hash of things considering not too long ago there were several girls in that age group playing WMPL. When did the rule change where all clubs had to do was get written permission from their parents and approval from the club to play WMPL let alone PDL? And surely any confusion over the rule change as mentioned in the letter below, recently (13/03 - 3 weeks before the season starts) sent out to clubs, comes from them as they changed the rule without consultation with any club that I am aware of -

Hi all,

I understand there may still be some confusion over the age dispensation for female players registering for the senior leagues. Please find the following bullet points which should hopefully clarify the rules around dispensation.  

·If a player is currently 13 turning 14 some time this year - please do not apply

·If a player is currently 14, and turning 15 this year, applications will be considered on a case by case basis using the following criteria;

-The player is a high performing established NTC player

-The player is of exceptional physical maturity and ability

All applications are considered and signed off by myself and the Federation Development Manager Alan Walker.

Here are two examples of dispensation requests and their outcomes for your reference;

1.Player born 8th April 1999 – applied for dispensation: This was denied as she is not involved in NTCs or known to show exceptional physical ability. However, as soon as she turns 15 she is eligible to play in the senior women’s leagues.

2.Player born 3rd June 1999 – applied for dispensation: Application was accepted as this player is exceptionally talented, recognised by NZF through her regular attendance at NTCs.

I hope this clarifies the dispensation rules. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

Kind regards

Emily


So player No.1 who turns 15 during the week after the first game can not play WPDLin the first game but can play WPL the next week!!!

 If you are not paying the exorbident FTC / NTC fees you can not, if you are you can!! 

It is getting better all the time!!!

yip! Gotta be paying the right people to play! Almost sounds like a bribe?? Just because a player is not in NTC doesn't mean they can't play at that level and if they not in FTC then how do mainland know whether they could or not?? Surely the clubs who have the players best interests at heart, know them the best. They are the ones seeing them train week in week out. 

Does this apply to males too? Last year mainland signed them all off no problem. Is it going to be different this year?

Fat chance clubs are going to wear that 3 weeks out from season start. Most would have had their teams in place and training for a month or so now. As you say, how can anyone but the club make a judgement on (suit)ability?  They moment anyone turns 15 makes them perfectly ok for senior women irrespective if they can kick a ball or not. Any younger they can decide on that simply by date of birth and what? They only know the players that are paying them instead of other providers, be it club coaches or acqdemies. How arrogant and stupid all at the same time. 


Alan & Emily are full of it !

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about 12 years ago

Grizly you may want to edit that last post before you get bansticked.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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about 12 years ago

Grizly, you may need to chill out...

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about 12 years ago


I may need to chill out after seeing the transfers. Such a shame it comes down to the almighty dollar.

Boo to the two clubs that blatantly flash their cash and have obviously not got better things to spend it on.

I let my guitar speak for me

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about 12 years ago

was waiting for your lament over AshW


E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:


I may need to chill out after seeing the transfers. Such a shame it comes down to the almighty dollar.

Boo to the two clubs that blatantly flash their cash and have obviously not got better things to spend it on.

Interesting when one start to play with the sort on the clearances page: St Bedes have a few coming in! Loads out of Fc2011 (juniors?). By far biggest shift is to Selwyn. Combination of shift from town, great facilities, good coaches, Burnley?
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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History

vim it is a shame u don't talk facts money was not involved in Ash coming over to Tech he has done it for footballing reasons

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about 12 years ago

I am talking facts and not talking this specific case anyways. For the coach of the team to say that no money is exchanged for players services is simply fact fudging.

 

I've said my bit about how money for players ruins our football and clubs so I won't bore you all with it again. But I still stand by it.

I let my guitar speak for me

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about 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:

I am talking facts and not talking this specific case anyways. For the coach of the team to say that no money is exchanged for players services is simply fact fudging.

 

I've said my bit about how money for players ruins our football and clubs so I won't bore you all with it again. But I still stand by it.

 

I think there is a big differece for rewarding a player if they along with their follow team mates make a pre agreed goal, (in a work situation a KPI) as opposed to a player receiving a weekly payment.

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about 12 years ago

I understand a player like ash going for 'football reasons'. Possibility of decent Chatham cup run, likely top 2 finish in MPL, be well rewarded. Just a shame he'll never be the player he was after that nasty broken ankle. Has he passed a medical yet?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 12 years ago
10cc wrote:
VimFuego wrote:


I may need to chill out after seeing the transfers. Such a shame it comes down to the almighty dollar.

Boo to the two clubs that blatantly flash their cash and have obviously not got better things to spend it on.

Interesting when one start to play with the sort on the clearances page: St Bedes have a few coming in! Loads out of Fc2011 (juniors?). By far biggest shift is to Selwyn. Combination of shift from town, great facilities, good coaches, Burnley?

And yet overall there numbers are down slightly on last year rumour has it. Love those rumours.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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about 12 years ago
Broonie wrote:

vim it is a shame u don't talk facts money was not involved in Ash coming over to Tech he has done it for footballing reasons

Football reasons my ass. Everyone knows if you play for tech you get paid and automatic place in Canterbury squad

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about 12 years ago
kiwifan90 wrote:
Broonie wrote:

vim it is a shame u don't talk facts money was not involved in Ash coming over to Tech he has done it for footballing reasons

Football reasons my ass. Everyone knows if you play for tech you get paid and automatic place in Canterbury squad

And what do you base these comments on?

 

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about 12 years ago

Not EVERYONE at Tech is guaranteed a Canterbury spot and to be honest all those that are in the Canterbury squad from Tech fully deserve to be there! Proven to be the best club in NZ so why shouldn't most of those players be getting picked to represent Canterbury?? 

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about 12 years ago

Haha, very funny, probably not the real Dan Ede but still good considering the topic. 


For the record I've never said that playing for Tech guarantees you a spot in Canty. 

I let my guitar speak for me

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about 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:

Haha, very funny, probably not the real Dan Ede but still good considering the topic. 


For the record I've never said that playing for Tech guarantees you a spot in Canty. 


Can't says I have seen big Keith at any other teams pre season games...

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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VimFuego wrote:

Haha, very funny, probably not the real Dan Ede but still good considering the topic. 


For the record I've never said that playing for Tech guarantees you a spot in Canty. 

needs to prove that it is the real dan ede and if is good to know his reasons for leaving Tech

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about 12 years ago

In news to hand today, Tech have broken new ground (depths) and have offered the first female player money to change clubs. Is there no limit to this shenanigans? 

I'm looking forward to the day Tech want to start up a Sunday League team.

I let my guitar speak for me

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about 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:

In news to hand today, Tech have broken new ground (depths) and have offered the first female player money to change clubs. Is there no limit to this shenanigans? 

I'm looking forward to the day Tech want to start up a Sunday League team.

Tell us more, facts would be great.

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