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Nike Cup 2014 as requested.


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You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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about 12 years ago

I too was a little disappointed there was only one referee for the games yesterday. In fact, there were only 2 referees for the whole day and they just took turns. Makes it very hard to call offsides, or even if the ball went out. At one stage, both coaches from different sides had their hands up to say the ball had gone out but it was disregarded!

I let my guitar speak for me

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about 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:

I too was a little disappointed there was only one referee for the games yesterday. In fact, there were only 2 referees for the whole day and they just took turns. Makes it very hard to call offsides, or even if the ball went out. At one stage, both coaches from different sides had their hands up to say the ball had gone out but it was disregarded!


Which clubs run a referee development program? Ongoing problem that everyone complains about but nobody wants to own and find a solution for. 
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about 12 years ago

Mainland run a referee development program, with an employee dedicated to promoting and organising. There are courses available throughout the year for people to sign up for.  It used to be a requirement of junior teams that one parent had been to the course in order to ref well. 


Surely, in all of Christchurch, there would have been more referees available than a 50 year old male and a 15 year old female.

I let my guitar speak for me

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about 12 years ago

I think it was a fair assumption that referees and linespeople would be part of the gig. 

Some barracking of the refs occurred from the stands but the ref is on a hiding to nothing with no linesman. 


E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:

Mainland run a referee development program, with an employee dedicated to promoting and organising. There are courses available throughout the year for people to sign up for.  It used to be a requirement of junior teams that one parent had been to the course in order to ref well. 

Surely, in all of Christchurch, there would have been more referees available than a 50 year old male and a 15 year old female.

I know and agree with all of that, as well as foal's comment. I repeat the question though: "Which clubs run a referee development program? Ongoing problem that everyone complains about but nobody wants to own and find a solution for".

 Football, like every sport, requires referees. Unless clubs stop moaning and start putting in a bit of effort to develop and retain referees within it's own organisations nothing will change.

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about 12 years ago

I think clubs have enough to worry about and to add referee training in is a bit much. Promote what the governing body is doing, ensure that each junior team has a parent as a referee, surely that's enough?

I let my guitar speak for me

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about 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:

Mainland run a referee development program, with an employee dedicated to promoting and organising. There are courses available throughout the year for people to sign up for.  It used to be a requirement of junior teams that one parent had been to the course in order to ref well. 


Surely, in all of Christchurch, there would have been more referees available than a 50 year old male and a 15 year old female.


Nomads have run a course night prior or first week of season for the last few years, not many takers for last year though.
Why is a 50 year old not good enough. more than happy to ref junior football in season but more to do with my summer weekends.
One of the axes I have with refs development is that having taken a course if you give it away for several years you need to resit the full course. Those that continue to ref year on year no matter how good or bad never have to sit another test if local football is the level.
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about 12 years ago

we do send parents to the Mainland Ref course

but this is "volunteer level" where I think Nike Cup should be for the Refs/Lino's who are serious about it

no offense meant to anyone but In my experience the parents volunteering for reffing is totally specific to the needs of their child's Saturday morning Winter competion side. 

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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10cc wrote:
VimFuego wrote:

Mainland run a referee development program, with an employee dedicated to promoting and organising. There are courses available throughout the year for people to sign up for.  It used to be a requirement of junior teams that one parent had been to the course in order to ref well. 

Surely, in all of Christchurch, there would have been more referees available than a 50 year old male and a 15 year old female.

I know and agree with all of that, as well as foal's comment. I repeat the question though: "Which clubs run a referee development program? Ongoing problem that everyone complains about but nobody wants to own and find a solution for".

 Football, like every sport, requires referees. Unless clubs stop moaning and start putting in a bit of effort to develop and retain referees within it's own organisations nothing will change.


I believe the illustrious Carey Baird ran a referee school (via Parklands FC), which turned out some fellows who I believe are still doing it. None of their warm up routines for a game are anywhere near as spectacular as CB though...

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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about 12 years ago

Lol. We open a Nike Cup thread cos the Mainland Juniors one was full of Nike Cup banter, and then you fill the Nike Cup thread with Refereeing banter.


No winning with you lot :)



Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:

Lol. We open a Nike Cup thread cos the Mainland Juniors one was full of Nike Cup banter, and then you fill the Nike Cup thread with Refereeing banter.


No winning with you lot :)




did Capital provide accredited Linesman for the Nike Cup games?

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 12 years ago
foal30 wrote:
Smithy wrote:

Lol. We open a Nike Cup thread cos the Mainland Juniors one was full of Nike Cup banter, and then you fill the Nike Cup thread with Refereeing banter.


No winning with you lot :)




did Capital provide accredited Linesman for the Nike Cup games?

 

No linesmen, accredited or otherwise.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 12 years ago
foal30 wrote:
chopah wrote:

AFF Group 1 table so far (one round of results from today still to be entered)

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-4202-0-295552-0&pool=1&a=LADDER

AFF Group 2 table so far (one round of results from today still to be entered)

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-4202-0-295553-0&a=LADDER



did AFF provide Linesman for the Nike Cup games?


Yep 3 point control - all games!
Draw Date Draw Time Team A Team B Division Ground Referee Line1 Line2 Inspector
16-Feb-14 2:00:00 p.m. Three Kings United Nike Cup Western Springs Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park MASON, Paul KHAN, Mack BENNETT, John
16-Feb-14 2:00:00 p.m. Bay Olympic Nike Cup Fencibles United Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park CHANG, Torres SCOTT, Chris ALI, Faiyaz BROOKE, David
16-Feb-14 3:00:00 p.m. Onehunga Sports Nike Cup Eastern Suburbs Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park SCHUMACHER, John DOIDGE, Dave MIDDLETON, Trevor
16-Feb-14 3:00:00 p.m. Ellerslie Nike Cup Papakura City Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park BLACK, Steven KUMAR, Pradeep MURTI, Vinal
16-Feb-14 4:00:00 p.m. Fencibles United Nike Cup Three Kings United Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park FERGUSON, Jeremy SCHUMACHER, John BLACK, Steven
16-Feb-14 4:00:00 p.m. Western Springs Nike Cup Bay Olympic Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park SCOTT, Chris MASON, Paul ALI, Faiyaz BROOKE, David
16-Feb-14 5:00:00 p.m. Eastern Suburbs Nike Cup Ellerslie Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park TSENG, Charlie KUMAR, Pradeep MIDDLETON, Trevor
16-Feb-14 5:00:00 p.m. Papakura City Nike Cup Onehunga Sports Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park BENNETT, John CHANG, Torres FERGUSON, Jeremy
16-Feb-14 6:00:00 p.m. Western Springs Nike Cup Fencibles United Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park KHAN, Mack MASON, Paul TSENG, Charlie BROOKE, David
16-Feb-14 6:00:00 p.m. Bay Olympic Nike Cup Three Kings United Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park MURTI, Vinal BLACK, Steven DOIDGE, Dave
16-Feb-14 7:00:00 p.m. Papakura City Nike Cup Eastern Suburbs Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park KUMAR, Pradeep SCHUMACHER, John MIDDLETON, Trevor BROOKE, David
16-Feb-14 7:00:00 p.m. Onehunga Sports Nike Cup Ellerslie Nike Cup Manchester United Nike Cup Bruce Pulman Park DOIDGE, Dave MURTI, Vinal ALI, Faiyaz

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about 12 years ago

Looks like:

- Waitakere City, http://www.foxsportspulse.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-4201-0-295075-0&pool=1&a=LADDER

(Won 9-8 over ECB in final)

 &

- Cambridge AFC  http://www.foxsportspulse.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-4203-0-296039-0&pool=1&a=LADDER

Have confirmed spots in the Northern Region finals for the w/e of 1st / 2nd March.

AFF Qualifier day 2 (Sunday 23rd Feb)

Semi finals:

Bay Olympic v Ellerslie

Three Kings v Onehunga Sports


Looks like Western Suburbs to represent Capital football in the NZ finals (assume there are no other play-offs in this region?

& FC twenty 11 on track to represent Mainland football?


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about 12 years ago

There has been three point control at the Auckland Tournament since 2012. It is covered as part of the entry fee and it makes a big difference. Auckland tournament been well organised by AFF for the past two seasons.

As usual Onehunga looked the best team.  Max Mata up front is a huge threat.

 

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about 12 years ago

Max Mata is quality.


The Wests team from down here is the best Capital Football entry ever, bar none. Certainly strong enough to give Auckland teams a run I reckon.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 12 years ago
2Boys wrote:

 FC twenty 11 on track to represent Mainland football?



From what I saw, I would say yes, but with the officiating or lack thereof, it may yet be a raffle. 

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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about 12 years ago

The qualifiers last year were exactly the same with only the ref..... I can't remember if the next round was the same or whether they went 3 point. I know they certainly did for a few games, but whether they did all.....

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about 12 years ago

Last year every game had three officials, except for Coastal Spirits two matches. They were a single referee and no linesmen affairs.

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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about 12 years ago

Stephen Upfold has taken up a comm's role at NZ Football and finally we get some up to date informative writing that has clarified to overall qualification picture for those of us watching from a far but never the less interested.

http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=11&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=2778&tx_ttnews[backPid]=10&cHash=b3b195c14b

Looking forward to him getting the rest of the NZF website etc up to date with relevant info and links.

Just look at the Auckland City squad info, horribly out of date http://www.asbpremiership.co.nz/index.php?id=45

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about 12 years ago
shushy6 wrote:

Last year every game had three officials, except for Coastal Spirits two matches. They were a single referee and no linesmen affairs.


Not true as one of the Nomads games only had a ref in the qualifier
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about 12 years ago
shushy6 wrote:

Last year every game had three officials, except for Coastal Spirits two matches. They were a single referee and no linesmen affairs.

 

Honestly, can we stop whingeing about the lack of officials and talk about the footy, otherwise I'm going to close this thread.


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:
shushy6 wrote:

Last year every game had three officials, except for Coastal Spirits two matches. They were a single referee and no linesmen affairs.

 


Honestly, can we stop whingeing about the lack of officials and talk about the footy, otherwise I'm going to close this thread.



i agree but i feel it might be a issue of people questioning how much importance the local federations put on this comp with investing in officials and a high playing environment.
i have not bothered with following this comp as it is associated with a dislike of mine MUFC……
but it sounds like a few people do care like yourself and it would be good to see the level improve in all federations.
which seems to be happening as you mentioned the capital's efforts this year have produced a better quality qualifier.
i am sure the players would appreciate top level control of games being supplied for there efforts.
but it might be a cost issue and who is paying for this elite nike comp?

good sportsmanship and fair playing field is all we ask for

but all we get is talk and goal posts moving

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about 12 years ago

Understand the $250 entry fee for this year's Auckland qualifier covered the refs and their assistants costs. AFF don't charge for their staff time to organise and ground costs were minimal this year.

As for the football, I like the way the tournament excites the players and gives them opportunity to develop their football under the pressure of tournament conditions.

Looking forward to Auckland finals this Sunday.

Onehunga should account for Three Kings in one semi. Bay Olympic will be the favourite in the other but Ellerslie is in with a shot. 

 


 

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about 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:
shushy6 wrote:

Last year every game had three officials, except for Coastal Spirits two matches. They were a single referee and no linesmen affairs.

 


Honestly, can we stop whingeing about the lack of officials and talk about the footy, otherwise I'm going to close this thread.



Agreed!

What's the prediction for the Mainland qualifier once the Nelson and Southern team play-off with the Canterbury winner?

A good wrap of the NFF qualifiers from the weekend on the NFF site and facebook page

http://nff.org.nz/index.php?id=44&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=1714&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=43&cHash=7934fc3f3d

A very timely and relevant comment at the end

"With the season soon to get underway, now is a great time to remind all your parents, players, and coaches the importance of being supportive when on the side-line. Understandably there can be a lot riding on a game, however even a trip to Manchester does not justify some of the comments resounding around the ground on Sunday. So let’s start the season on a positive note! We’re here because we love the game and we love to see our kids play and enjoy themselves!"

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about 12 years ago

Coastal and Waimak out


FC2011 four from four

CTFC v Halswell for 2/3

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 12 years ago

AFF Qualifiers completed today.

Really strong winds at Bruce Pulman Park unfortunately made for really tough conditions

Semi finals

Ellerslie 2 v Bay Olympic 1

Onehunga Sports 2 v Three Kings 1

Final

Onehunga Sports 1 v Ellerslie 0 (AET)

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about 12 years ago

Was their a ChCh round just played? Any one help with the results?

"Who ate all the pies"

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about 12 years ago

Yes, there was. FC 2011, Halswell and cashmere went through to play off this weekend against the Nelson side and Dunedins team. Coastal and Waimak went out.

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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about 12 years ago

Any updates after todays games? I thought Mainland manages Nike Cup in ChCh, but no updates on website/sporting pulse. Any clubs/volunteers keeping a table.....??

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about 12 years ago

CTFC 3 from 3

1-0 over FC2011

2-1 v Halswell

2-0 this morning v Nelson

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 12 years ago

CTFC off to Auckland

congratulations. 

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 12 years ago

I think they beat Green Bay 4-1 as well


You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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about 12 years ago

2boys, I think u mean cashmere.
Western suburbs are the Wellington qualifier.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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