Would be nice to see a Shore team in the Handy. So long as they do NOT play at QBE.
Where do you suggest they play?
Northern Leagues
Well the Northern United proposal from 10 or so years ago had the team based at mairangi Bay - the Athletics Track - can't remember what it is called these days. However if you look at all the teams that have been successful in the franchise league they all have one thing in common - they are based strongly on a single club base - Akld City (Central) , Waitakere before they imploded (Dawkins City), Team Wellington (Miramar) and Eastern Suburbs. To my mind that means a North Harbour side is based on one club and plays at their ground - Allen Hill, McFetridge , Shephedrs , Bay City all are adequate . The big failing in the franchise model has always been the lack of understanding of just how important volunteers are for the success of the franchises - that to my mind can only come form passionate club people. The original pie in the sky model from 2004 failed to understand that.
Thank goodness that the franchise model had the flexibility to change and evolve over the years, so we haven't had to "scrap it and start again" every other season like 1990-2004.
The big issue in the original franchise idea IMHO was the stupidly high standards for stadia. The original Waikato FC fell over precisely because they put so much of their resources into securing Waikato Stadium, leaving fudge-all infrastructure behind them.
IMHO a smartened-up Allen Hill would be perfect for a Shore NZFC team, not that I foresee one coming along in the near future. If the proposed Waitak-Western Springs merger goes ahead, I look forward to going to games at a souped-up Seddon Fields.
Thank goodness that the franchise model had the flexibility to change and evolve over the years, so we haven't had to "scrap it and start again" every other season like 1990-2004.
The big issue in the original franchise idea IMHO was the stupidly high standards for stadia. The original Waikato FC fell over precisely because they put so much of their resources into securing Waikato Stadium, leaving fudge-all infrastructure behind them.
IMHO a smartened-up Allen Hill would be perfect for a Shore NZFC team, not that I foresee one coming along in the near future. If the proposed Waitak-Western Springs merger goes ahead, I look forward to going to games at a souped-up Seddon Fields.
I think there's a current proposal (as in, it's at the council planning stage) to put a turf in at Allen Hill and re-build the clubrooms.
Nice to have another turf but they're really not ideal for national league.
If it were up to me (and a bit more budget) I'd put the turf at Allen Hill out the back and keep the #1 pitch grass. (Would need a bit of work on the grass as well)
Thank goodness that the franchise model had the flexibility to change and evolve over the years, so we haven't had to "scrap it and start again" every other season like 1990-2004.
The big issue in the original franchise idea IMHO was the stupidly high standards for stadia. The original Waikato FC fell over precisely because they put so much of their resources into securing Waikato Stadium, leaving fudge-all infrastructure behind them.
IMHO a smartened-up Allen Hill would be perfect for a Shore NZFC team, not that I foresee one coming along in the near future. If the proposed Waitak-Western Springs merger goes ahead, I look forward to going to games at a souped-up Seddon Fields.
I think there's a current proposal (as in, it's at the council planning stage) to put a turf in at Allen Hill and re-build the clubrooms.
Nice to have another turf but they're really not ideal for national league.
If it were up to me (and a bit more budget) I'd put the turf at Allen Hill out the back and keep the #1 pitch grass. (Would need a bit of work on the grass as well)
that is what the updated proposal is - however there are bigger problems in having national league at Allen Hill than just the pitch.
Thank goodness that the franchise model had the flexibility to change and evolve over the years, so we haven't had to "scrap it and start again" every other season like 1990-2004.
The big issue in the original franchise idea IMHO was the stupidly high standards for stadia. The original Waikato FC fell over precisely because they put so much of their resources into securing Waikato Stadium, leaving fudge-all infrastructure behind them.
IMHO a smartened-up Allen Hill would be perfect for a Shore NZFC team, not that I foresee one coming along in the near future. If the proposed Waitak-Western Springs merger goes ahead, I look forward to going to games at a souped-up Seddon Fields.
I think there's a current proposal (as in, it's at the council planning stage) to put a turf in at Allen Hill and re-build the clubrooms.
Nice to have another turf but they're really not ideal for national league.
If it were up to me (and a bit more budget) I'd put the turf at Allen Hill out the back and keep the #1 pitch grass. (Would need a bit of work on the grass as well)
that is what the updated proposal is - however there are bigger problems in having national league at Allen Hill than just the pitch.
Is Allen Hill what used to be called Fuji Film stadium when North Shore were in the National League in the 80s?
Thank goodness that the franchise model had the flexibility to change and evolve over the years, so we haven't had to "scrap it and start again" every other season like 1990-2004.
The big issue in the original franchise idea IMHO was the stupidly high standards for stadia. The original Waikato FC fell over precisely because they put so much of their resources into securing Waikato Stadium, leaving fudge-all infrastructure behind them.
IMHO a smartened-up Allen Hill would be perfect for a Shore NZFC team, not that I foresee one coming along in the near future. If the proposed Waitak-Western Springs merger goes ahead, I look forward to going to games at a souped-up Seddon Fields.
I think there's a current proposal (as in, it's at the council planning stage) to put a turf in at Allen Hill and re-build the clubrooms.
Nice to have another turf but they're really not ideal for national league.
If it were up to me (and a bit more budget) I'd put the turf at Allen Hill out the back and keep the #1 pitch grass. (Would need a bit of work on the grass as well)
that is what the updated proposal is - however there are bigger problems in having national league at Allen Hill than just the pitch.
I thought current proposal included new club and changing room facilities, as well as a proper carpark? What else would hold Allen Hill back?
Thank goodness that the franchise model had the flexibility to change and evolve over the years, so we haven't had to "scrap it and start again" every other season like 1990-2004.
The big issue in the original franchise idea IMHO was the stupidly high standards for stadia. The original Waikato FC fell over precisely because they put so much of their resources into securing Waikato Stadium, leaving fudge-all infrastructure behind them.
IMHO a smartened-up Allen Hill would be perfect for a Shore NZFC team, not that I foresee one coming along in the near future. If the proposed Waitak-Western Springs merger goes ahead, I look forward to going to games at a souped-up Seddon Fields.
I think there's a current proposal (as in, it's at the council planning stage) to put a turf in at Allen Hill and re-build the clubrooms.
Nice to have another turf but they're really not ideal for national league.
If it were up to me (and a bit more budget) I'd put the turf at Allen Hill out the back and keep the #1 pitch grass. (Would need a bit of work on the grass as well)
that is what the updated proposal is - however there are bigger problems in having national league at Allen Hill than just the pitch.
I thought current proposal included new club and changing room facilities, as well as a proper carpark? What else would hold Allen Hill back?
You ever tried getting to and from there?
Unfortunately getting in and out of Devonport by road is a nightmare on the weekends (let alone during the week)
Thank goodness that the franchise model had the flexibility to change and evolve over the years, so we haven't had to "scrap it and start again" every other season like 1990-2004.
The big issue in the original franchise idea IMHO was the stupidly high standards for stadia. The original Waikato FC fell over precisely because they put so much of their resources into securing Waikato Stadium, leaving fudge-all infrastructure behind them.
IMHO a smartened-up Allen Hill would be perfect for a Shore NZFC team, not that I foresee one coming along in the near future. If the proposed Waitak-Western Springs merger goes ahead, I look forward to going to games at a souped-up Seddon Fields.
I think there's a current proposal (as in, it's at the council planning stage) to put a turf in at Allen Hill and re-build the clubrooms.
Nice to have another turf but they're really not ideal for national league.
If it were up to me (and a bit more budget) I'd put the turf at Allen Hill out the back and keep the #1 pitch grass. (Would need a bit of work on the grass as well)
that is what the updated proposal is - however there are bigger problems in having national league at Allen Hill than just the pitch.
Is Allen Hill what used to be called Fuji Film stadium when North Shore were in the National League in the 80s?
Yes
Unfortunately getting in and out of Devonport by road is a nightmare on the weekends (let alone during the week)
Park in town and go by ferry
If you're from the North, go by bus
Auckland CBD carpark for four hours - $20
Ferry CBD to Davenport -$10
Ferry Davenport to CBD -$10
Game Entry $10
Really don't like Allen hill location-wise and facilities-wise, though could obviously be improved and there's always the ferry. Lot of free space around Akoranga though which is absolutely perfect for anyone coming from the city and it's pretty much the centre of the Shore.
Takapuna AFC's got a nice ground as does Taka rugby
He was on the sideline as a coach, and after a player had been stomped on the head he and just about everyone watching could not believe the officials did nothing about it. Most bizarre decisions all day just boiled over when this took place. No assault took place and no violent conduct by him.... verbal spray
Grabbed the assistant ref and swearing at them.
Ferry CBD to Davenport -$10
Ferry Davenport to CBD -$10
Not with a HOP card
I'm sure you get my point
Thank goodness that the franchise model had the flexibility to change and evolve over the years, so we haven't had to "scrap it and start again" every other season like 1990-2004.
The big issue in the original franchise idea IMHO was the stupidly high standards for stadia. The original Waikato FC fell over precisely because they put so much of their resources into securing Waikato Stadium, leaving fudge-all infrastructure behind them.
IMHO a smartened-up Allen Hill would be perfect for a Shore NZFC team, not that I foresee one coming along in the near future. If the proposed Waitak-Western Springs merger goes ahead, I look forward to going to games at a souped-up Seddon Fields.
I think there's a current proposal (as in, it's at the council planning stage) to put a turf in at Allen Hill and re-build the clubrooms.
Nice to have another turf but they're really not ideal for national league.
If it were up to me (and a bit more budget) I'd put the turf at Allen Hill out the back and keep the #1 pitch grass. (Would need a bit of work on the grass as well)
that is what the updated proposal is - however there are bigger problems in having national league at Allen Hill than just the pitch.
Is Allen Hill what used to be called Fuji Film stadium when North Shore were in the National League in the 80s?
Yes
I haven't been there for ages, but in the video footage from the Manukau brawl an advertising sign caught my eye. Does the sign on the roof of the stand on the halfway line still say "Club Warehams"? I thought that gym went under in the early 90's. Has the sign been there since then?
Thank goodness that the franchise model had the flexibility to change and evolve over the years, so we haven't had to "scrap it and start again" every other season like 1990-2004.
The big issue in the original franchise idea IMHO was the stupidly high standards for stadia. The original Waikato FC fell over precisely because they put so much of their resources into securing Waikato Stadium, leaving fudge-all infrastructure behind them.
IMHO a smartened-up Allen Hill would be perfect for a Shore NZFC team, not that I foresee one coming along in the near future. If the proposed Waitak-Western Springs merger goes ahead, I look forward to going to games at a souped-up Seddon Fields.
I think there's a current proposal (as in, it's at the council planning stage) to put a turf in at Allen Hill and re-build the clubrooms.
Nice to have another turf but they're really not ideal for national league.
If it were up to me (and a bit more budget) I'd put the turf at Allen Hill out the back and keep the #1 pitch grass. (Would need a bit of work on the grass as well)
that is what the updated proposal is - however there are bigger problems in having national league at Allen Hill than just the pitch.
As I understand it Shore are having a longterm running battle with a near neighbour over permission to develop a decent carpark at the ground and the Council won't sign anything off until this dispute is settled.
#nimby
I realize there is not much Northern League love on this forum. But has anyone heard from NRFL around who is in what division for 2020? As I understand NZ football hasn't approved O Sports and 3 kings merger so everyone else is left in limbo. Clubs like Manurewa, Fencies, and Franklin all awaiting a decision to see what league they are in. There is also a similar situation in the womans premier league.
Players are unable to commit to clubs and players as they don't know what league they will be in. Players from the two clubs don't know where they stand.
I don't understand the delay because on the Auckland United website there is a statement of support from Auckland football CEO.
I also don't imagine it is one of the most complicated decisions NRFL has to make, they are aware of the season start date and to not have the draw out or teams even knowing what leagues they will be in is not really good enough.
If anyone could enlighten me I'd appreciate it.
So with @Onehunga_Sports not being able to survive financially and @3KingsUnited losing $180g over 3 years ?the Auckland United Merger goes ahead!! It’s all about the money!!
— SOS FEMALE FOOTBALL NZ (@FemaleNz) January 31, 2020
I realize there is not much Northern League love on this forum. But has anyone heard from NRFL around who is in what division for 2020? As I understand NZ football hasn't approved O Sports and 3 kings merger so everyone else is left in limbo. Clubs like Manurewa, Fencies, and Franklin all awaiting a decision to see what league they are in. There is also a similar situation in the womans premier league.
Players are unable to commit to clubs and players as they don't know what league they will be in. Players from the two clubs don't know where they stand.
I don't understand the delay because on the Auckland United website there is a statement of support from Auckland football CEO.
I also don't imagine it is one of the most complicated decisions NRFL has to make, they are aware of the season start date and to not have the draw out or teams even knowing what leagues they will be in is not really good enough.
If anyone could enlighten me I'd appreciate it.
Sometimes it's as simple as a matter of certain people being on holiday for a certain period of time.
I realize there is not much Northern League love on this forum. But has anyone heard from NRFL around who is in what division for 2020? As I understand NZ football hasn't approved O Sports and 3 kings merger so everyone else is left in limbo. Clubs like Manurewa, Fencies, and Franklin all awaiting a decision to see what league they are in. There is also a similar situation in the womans premier league.
Players are unable to commit to clubs and players as they don't know what league they will be in. Players from the two clubs don't know where they stand.
I don't understand the delay because on the Auckland United website there is a statement of support from Auckland football CEO.
I also don't imagine it is one of the most complicated decisions NRFL has to make, they are aware of the season start date and to not have the draw out or teams even knowing what leagues they will be in is not really good enough.
If anyone could enlighten me I'd appreciate it.
Sometimes it's as simple as a matter of certain people being on holiday for a certain period of time.
Sounds about right for this lot.
guess which ex Nix player is at Albany?
guess which ex Nix player is at Albany?
not sure but saw Jason Hicks is now at NSU...
he is at Albany
damn we sure? they're not far away so plausible. he's at NSU in Comet tho
Any games this weekend? Looks like central league is kicking off.
I've spoken to some teams who have had trouble organising friendlies because of the council not releasing pitches "for games"... but are okay with doing so for "training"
Seems like a massive farce brewing.
Any games this weekend? Looks like central league is kicking off.
I've spoken to some teams who have had trouble organising friendlies because of the council not releasing pitches "for games"... but are okay with doing so for "training"
Seems like a massive farce brewing.
it's not brewing - it's been served with a side of shark on the saucer already.
Any games this weekend? Looks like central league is kicking off.
I've spoken to some teams who have had trouble organising friendlies because of the council not releasing pitches "for games"... but are okay with doing so for "training"
Seems like a massive farce brewing.
it's not brewing - it's been served with a side of shark on the saucer already.
It seemed so ridiculous I wasn't sure it was true - surprised more of a fuss isn't being kicked up. What's their reasoning?
Any games this weekend? Looks like central league is kicking off.
I've spoken to some teams who have had trouble organising friendlies because of the council not releasing pitches "for games"... but are okay with doing so for "training"
Seems like a massive farce brewing.
Central League starts next weekend.
Mainland Premier League this weekend (round 3)
Southern Premier League the same weekend as the Northern Leagues, June 20.
Whole heap of friendlies scheduled for tomorrow, but the only one I've seen advertised publicly (I haven't gone looking too hard to be fair) is Manukau United v Eastern Suburbs at Centre Park at 3pm.
I'm told to expect our own comp to start playing June 20th
So what does this mean: are AFF and NFF fusing?
So what does this mean: are AFF and NFF fusing?
Con fusing
So what does this mean: are AFF and NFF fusing?
AFF and NFF have been working together as an unincorporated joint venture (Northern Region Football) for a while now. Basically pooling staff and resources to eliminate double-ups (given they both largely cover Auckland) and to save costs. Expect to see them move towards a proper merger over the next year, to be approved at their respective AGMs next May (or possibly even earlier). Would imagine they planned to role out their new branding (and one combined website) in late March before Covid-19 hit. Leagues that use to be called AFF/NFF are now called NRF etc.
A google search for fixtures last week revealed a website with that name, that has in writing at the top "This is our new website - We haven't publicly announced yet - Anything you find on this page is either not complete or not finalized and used for test purposes only." It didn't have the fixtures that have been announced elsewhere floating around on it. Didn't have the pre-season fixtures for last weekend and this on it either.
A google search for fixtures last week revealed a website with that name, that has in writing at the top "This is our new website - We haven't publicly announced yet - Anything you find on this page is either not complete or not finalized and used for test purposes only." It didn't have the fixtures that have been announced elsewhere floating around on it. Didn't have the pre-season fixtures for last weekend and this on it either.
Yeah, fairly amateur stuff. I stumbled across the website a few weeks back. Not sure either federation posted the fixtures anywhere, probably potentially. Some clubs posted fixtures ahead of last weekend's matches and will likely do so again. Clubs have draft fixtures which are floating around, but there are still some final details to be adjusted (non-Saturday 3pm/Sunday 1pm kickoffs mostly).
Glenfield Rovers looking to merge with Forrest Hill Milford United
Lot of logic to a Glenfield FHM merger. More than the FHM and NSU proposal that fell over (think it was NSU that rejected it). Their home grounds are really close together and their catchment areas overlap. Too many clubs on the shore probably anyway - one reason perhaps for no National League presence ?
So 100% of Forrest Hill voted in favour and then last night this
Wonder what the new club will be called - Forrest Hill Glenfield Milford Rovers United? North Shore Rovers?
So 100% of Forrest Hill voted in favour and then last night this
Wonder what the new club will be called - Forrest Hill Glenfield Milford Rovers United? North Shore Rovers?
Would bet a lot of money on Wairau Rovers (Glenfield have said Rovers is staying; Wairau (Park/Valley) is the name of the suburb where both clubs are based and the name they have used for this project. Need more of this in Auckland.
