Poirua Hospital United.

Poirua Hospital United.

My understanding that after winning the chatham cup twice in the 70's they became wests in the 1980's??? anyone clarify this?? if so where was their home ground (i presume kenepuru?) from what i remember a great team that used to play in the North Island league. id like to see porirua get a club bigger than two senior teams. from where i see it if you live in porirua you can't play for wests because dave wilson buys all the players from wellington?? porirua city united only have a div 9 and masters team correct me if im wrong??? with such a low standard of living out here you think we would have room for a community club instead of wests who only have two seniors teams and cant share a beer after the game becuase one mans buying players who arn't even near the region?bobdylan2008-01-15 14:38:38

Don't know the full history but there is a book around that covers it.

Wasn't it actually Mental Hospital FC? none to PC these days- unlike Peru's Deportivo Wanka!

yea true bro there bit of lifestyle living out there i guess.

I think the term is re-prioritised.

Porirua have a few Masters sides, and a couple in Capital 13 don't they ?

Div 1 and Div 2 definitely in Masters.
Hard News2008-01-15 14:55:22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Suburbs

wikipedia brought this up.

Last season Wests had Capital 10 and 13 sides as well as Masters 3 and a womens team (and the top couple).

Is Porirua City the same as the Hospital side though ?

It was Mental Hospital FC, made up of all the hospital workers of that time. It did eventually become Wests via series of twists n turns and name changes/amalgamations. I have the book  (i think its called "A Funny Lil Club called Wests) somewhere at home (being a old wests boy) and its current up to around 98 i think if anyone wants it....i've read it enuf times.

At Ole there is a plaque on the tree-side of the pitch showing what the ground looked like 100 or so years ago from that same vantage point. New Wests book due out soon i think......am hoping my name makes an appearance......even if it is the sending off for the reserves vs PN Marist (Jacob Oram in goal) back in 1997....maybe 98??

I believe 2 Chatham Cups were won by the "old" club......and then they dropped down a few divisions......then came back up....im sketchy at best on details.

Carney

Porirua City was a separate club.

Yeah, got that now.

Can u check the name in the book? I feel sure it was just known as Hospital FC.

It was just Hospital FC.

next bit of history trivia - anyone know what is / what happend to venus shield/charity cup/power cup/victory cup nothing worse than starting a cup and tradition not being carried on. at a wild guess leagues been revamped over the years and cups have just stopped?? bobdylan2008-01-15 15:31:19

As Chairperson of Porirua City Fc let me say that we are endeavouring to provide the social/community side of football for the area. We accept that Wests provide elite soccer for those that want that but wish to cater for those that play for fun and fitness! We currently have two teams in Div 13. One is loosely based around Mana College staff, students, ex students and the other is a mixed side of keen but social players of all ages. In the Masters League we have our first team in Div 1 who also enter the Chatham Cup and a good side in Div 2.

Our aim is to improve facilities at Waihora Park, establish a womens side, and encourage young players from the four secondary schools (other than elite players) to join and create some more teams in the local league.

I played 1 season as a junior at Porirua City, i think i was 15 years old. It was around a year before Theresa Brown passed away, what a great lady and what a great family. Neil, her son, was the coach and we had some great results for a team of "no namers". I see Neil around sometimes.....the last of which was a ride home from the train station BLIND DRUNK! he was working security at the station that nite and got me home safe. Top Man, Top Family, Top Club.

Go the Crows Nest.

I should have been commited long before that Smithy!

Theres a photo up at Ole still and i think u will find the title of it is Wellington Mental Hospital AFC.

I would confirm but I have no reason to head up to Ole these days, being a LH player n' all.

One un-injured match a season hardly makes you a LH player Carny...

Hospital played in the first Hilton Cup (1955) tournament but by 1965 had become Western Suburbs. It was under this name that they won the Central League 1968 and 1969 an became one of the inaugural teams in the National League.

I played for Western Suburbs from 66 to 77. In those days our colours were Yellow shirts and socks and Blue shorts. Also in existance at that time were both Porirua City and Porirua United, at least in the junior ranks. The most pleasing thing was that there was no Tawa club in those days.

great discussion around  a local clubs history- shows that football/soccer/keepy uppy heady ball was around long before the Nix wityh a big following

This forum could do a series  on local clubs and what went on in the early days (Next up Diamonds!)

Incidentally there is also a Porirua Club in the Wgtn Sunday League- any relation? the forgotten uncle perhaps

Only if you play as well Feverish....and HN as well!

The yellow shirts with blue shorts n blue socks was where the idea came from for the Wests away kit 2002 (SK branded gear, thank you Tex Von Kiiatkowski).

my 5 appearances totalling just over 70 minutes not enuf HN? hahahahahaha the joys of becoming (or already being?) old and average!

I aspire to average, but I imagine it's a goal I shall never achieve...

Average is a term I use to explain how I used to play, now the excuse is that the teams we are paying ar getting younger and younger therefore making me look more average! theprof2008-01-16 11:11:51

I dont think thats really appropriate to question the "mantra" of a club - knowing the relationship like i think i do a lot of the PCFC players in the Div1 side WERE a masters side from Wests who left after a disagreement with the club in 2002 (maybe 03?) - Jon Perkins was one of them I think, top man that JP.

Porirua lacks soccer sides at college level becoz there have never been anuf decent players to compete with the colleges in town or in the hutt valley. I can count the number of "decent" players to come out these colleges in the last 5 years on one hand.

We have 1 kid at Lower Hutt this season, samoan kid by the name of JP (or PJ) who is apparently a tidy player who comes from my alma mater, Bishop Viard College - but that aside there no NO players of note from Porirua at youth level (Wests is NOT a porirua club, they take most of their players from the Whitby and Tawa areas)

Leave PCFC be.

wests not a porirua club?? bobdylan2008-01-16 15:51:45

know Porirua? lived there for the last 20 years and got my "stripes" in the hood known as Cannons Creek u ignoramus.

show me 1 player in that Wests Squad that lives in Porirua? not tawa or whitby or linden or redwood....somewhere like Cannons Creek (i played for Wests from 9 yo till i was 22 and live in "The Creek" the whole time), Waitangirua, Ascot Park, Takapuwahia, Elsdon, Titahi Bay.....i'd bet my left one that maybe 1 or 2 MIGHT have lived there in a past life with a horse drawn carriage.

You show me 1 resident of Whitby that will tell you they are a part of Porirua......yip thought so.

PCFC major problem is a quality ground to play at, Waihora Park is in the same street as the Mongrel Mob pad FFS, not exactly the safest place to congregate given recent events in that part of the city. Another major problem is getting good quality coaching for the young players that do play at the club......why should it fall the "other" club from that part of town to pick up the slack?

I'm all for PCFC to grow and get better but it has to be in the right circumstances and to achieve a set of goals.

But what do I know.
Barber212008-01-16 16:06:20

The Wilsons didn't exactly grow up in Porirua...Plimmerton and then schooling at HIBS I believe...

Matt and Milke Wilson - Plimmerton                          HIBS
Allan and Graeme Pearce - Pukerua Bay                  Kapiti College and MAGS (Allan)
Adam Church and Mike Ramaekers - Whitby            Kapiti College

Ask any of these lads where they are from and they will NOT say "i'm from Porirua" (thats not a bad thing, just a fact) - i played for Wests at either u19 or 1st team level with ALL of these guys and still play with Churchy.

Don't tell me the history of the club i served for nearly 15 years.

Plenty of "quality" players? ha! u make me laugh! name me 5 u19 players right now who could play in a central league team that are from Porirua.

Thank you Smithy!
Barber212008-01-16 16:47:07

if you read mt post carefully i never said anything about central league. bobdylan2008-01-16 16:49:53

you truly are a muppet arent you, i havent played for wests since 2004.

yes porirua is split into 5 zones from a geographic point of view and if you want to go from that viewpoint then yes the wilsons and churches and ramaekers are from porirua, but get in the real world my friend - the world where "Porirua" is split into 6 zones.

The East (Mungavin Ave to where Bedford St starts)
The Creek (Warspite Ave until Corrina St)
Waitangirua (Corrina St to Tairangi School Roundabout)
Ascot Park (Tairangi School Roundabout to past Aotea College)
Elsdon
Titahi Bay

Eat it.

Honestly how on earth did this thread get to be a chest beating contect about who knows what about p-town - simple fact is their football club is struggling, and its cos they can't or dont have good player coming up thru the Wgtn football divs.

everyone knows Porirua is split into two parts Feverish2008-01-16 19:09:47